Mr. Sinistar Wrote:Okay, I didn't finished the script yet, but here's what I got so far: http://www.freewebs.com/open-source-tron-movie/open_source_tron_script.txt

Excellent script! I'm liking where it's going, but rather you than me on the animation for all that! Looks damn complicated...

Mr. Sinistar Wrote:I also uploaded these two new AVIs for you guys: http://www.freewebs.com/open-source-tron-movie/shot_2.ziphttp://www.freewebs.com/open-source-tron-movie/shot_3.zip

They look loads better at full quality. I've put them with their brother in the TronOS.prl Premiere file.

Mr. Sinistar Wrote:If anyone else wants to donwload it, go right ahead. It's not my best work, but I was going for that crappy song style. http://www.freewebs.com/open-source-tron-movie/retarded_song.mp3

I think that might be a good song to have everyone dancing to in the credits!

Mr. Sinistar Wrote:I don't know. I don't want a narrator, but yeah, we can like talk to the camera and explain what we do and stuff. I guess you can call that, "documentary". Gotta go, talk to you later!

I didn't mean a narrator - I meant just everyone involved films themself doing their job and telling the camera what they're doing, with little snippets of the film and stuff. Just a little 5 minute feature.

Chikan Wrote:A making-of feature would be awesome... Just downloaded the script & AVIs, so I'm gonna go take a look at them now! Can't wait!

I hope you like the clips, Chikan!

Chikan Wrote:Anything else you need from me model-wise at the moment Sinistar?

Actually yes. I hope this isn't asking for too much, but could you model the "game grid" for me? My model absolutely stinks. Thanks in advance!

Well, the script seems cool, and I could see immediately where the different shots you've rendered so far come into play, based on your descriptions.. Very cool...

For some reason though, I couldn't get the clips... My comp said the .zip files were invalid or corrupted, and wouldn't open them... Not sure why?


Game grid, eh? Do you need the WHOLE thing, or just like, a section of it? That pic in my gallery of the cycles on the game grid was actually just a corner area that I created... I STARTED trying to do a whole grid, but after adding all the necessary lighting my comp was DRAGGING.... LOL (Pretty bad, considering I'm workin on a high-end Athlon 64 system)
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Sinistar: I've got a couple different grids done up for ya. One is just a VERY large plane, with the grid texture to it... Useful for those high-speed overhead shots.... The other is a large corner-area of a grid, complete with decorated walls... I did a quick test vid with one of my cycle models, so you can get an idea how it looks... Let me know if this is what you were needing!

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Heya! Welcome back!

Yea, I'm on XP here both at home and work, so I suppose that could be the problem...

I'm at work right now, (graveyard... bleh... lol) but when I get home I'll send you both of my grids... As for the jetwall, are you talking about the actual trail, or the part just behind the cycle that fades from white into the color? The faded part I could send you... The trail is just a blue glowing plane that I parented to the cycle so it follows it.. trick photography, eh? Unfortunately, this wouldn't work for turning corners... Still trying to visualize how to do that part...

As for the spokes: Ok, here's my quick & dirty Blender tutorial for things that blink or flash...

1) First off, create the white spoke, assign whatever colors/glows to it you want, and place it where it should be in relation to the cycle... (aka, on the wheels.. lol)
Make sure it's a separate object though, not connected...

2) Then what you need to do, is go to object mode, select the spoke, then shift-select the cycle, (so they're both highlighted) and make the cycle the PARENT of the spoke... This way, no matter where the cycle moves/turns, the spoke follows...

3) Now... Here's the not-so-fun/monotonous part... For the frames where you want the spoke to disappear, select the spoke, hit M for 'move' and put it on a different layer, like say, layer 2. Then go ahead and hit I to create a keyframe, (after you've moved the cycle as necessary), and keyframe not only the Location/Rotation/Size, but be sure to keyframe the LAYER as well. THEN, switch your view to layer #2 (or wherever you moved the spoke), select it, and keyframe layer 2 as well. (Yes, you HAVE to keyframe both layers, otherwise Blender will just throw the spoke back on layer 1)
For the frames where you want the spoke visible, the reverse is true. Go to layer 2, select the spoke, hit M and move it back to layer 1, then keyframe layer 1. (The key to this, is to remember to keyframe the "Layer" as well as "LocRotSize")

And there you have it. Now you see why I said it's a chore to do... Unfortunately, it wouldn't be a whole lot easier for me in After Effects, and in reality it probably wouldn't look as good anyway.

Be happy though. At least you don't have to keyframe all the lights on a policecar lightbar like I recently did in Blender.... Talk about a PAIN... (I'll show you the vid if you want.. It actually looks kinda cool)

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Chikan Wrote:Heya! Welcome back! Yea, I'm on XP here both at home and work, so I suppose that could be the problem... I'm at work right now, (graveyard... bleh... lol) but when I get home I'll send you both of my grids... As for the jetwall, are you talking about the actual trail, or the part just behind the cycle that fades from white into the color? The faded part I could send you... The trail is just a blue glowing plane that I parented to the cycle so it follows it.. trick photography, eh? Unfortunately, this wouldn't work for turning corners... Still trying to visualize how to do that part...

I would like the faded part please. I think I have an idea for the corners. How about, I spilt one lightcycle shot into several shots depending on how many turns the lightcycle(s) make. First, I'll render one clip of the lightcycle moving in one direction and when it's about to make the turn, I'll stop the rendering. Then, I'll rotate the lightcycle and add another plane in a different direction, thus creating our 90 degree turn. Then, rinse and repeat. When I'm done, I'll add all of the clips together in VirtualDub and volia, one neat shot!

Chikan Wrote: As for the spokes: Ok, here's my quick & dirty Blender tutorial for things that blink or flash... 1) First off, create the white spoke, assign whatever colors/glows to it you want, and place it where it should be in relation to the cycle... (aka, on the wheels.. lol) Make sure it's a separate object though, not connected... 2) Then what you need to do, is go to object mode, select the spoke, then shift-select the cycle, (so they're both highlighted) and make the cycle the PARENT of the spoke... This way, no matter where the cycle moves/turns, the spoke follows... 3) Now... Here's the not-so-fun/monotonous part... For the frames where you want the spoke to disappear, select the spoke, hit M for 'move' and put it on a different layer, like say, layer 2. Then go ahead and hit I to create a keyframe, (after you've moved the cycle as necessary), and keyframe not only the Location/Rotation/Size, but be sure to keyframe the LAYER as well. THEN, switch your view to layer #2 (or wherever you moved the spoke), select it, and keyframe layer 2 as well. (Yes, you HAVE to keyframe both layers, otherwise Blender will just throw the spoke back on layer 1) For the frames where you want the spoke visible, the reverse is true. Go to layer 2, select the spoke, hit M and move it back to layer 1, then keyframe layer 1. (The key to this, is to remember to keyframe the "Layer" as well as "LocRotSize") And there you have it. Now you see why I said it's a chore to do... Unfortunately, it wouldn't be a whole lot easier for me in After Effects, and in reality it probably wouldn't look as good anyway. Be happy though. At least you don't have to keyframe all the lights on a policecar lightbar like I recently did in Blender.... Talk about a PAIN... (I'll show you the vid if you want.. It actually looks kinda cool) Hope this helps man! TTYL!

Thanks alot for the tutorial, man! I really appreciate that. Now, we can really get to work on this movie!

Mr. Sinistar Wrote: What that previously mentioned forum was "VGMusic"?

No, the Anim8ed Club forum. Formed from migrating members of the dead Young Anim8ors Club forum, and Anim8ed Club has more or less died in the past few months. We never really had more than 20 members, and only a handful of members who regularly posted.

Mr. Sinistar Wroteon't worry, I got FL Studio, so I can upload the MIDIs and make some really nice MP3s. I'll listen to them when I get home. I bet they're great!

Wow - after looking through my neglected geocities account (which I haven't used for ages), I found a version of the first song (the one made for the minigame) which I recorded with synths and my (not very good) keyboard playing. You can tell what's synth and what's my keyboard playing - the synths are in time

Quoth Mr. Sinistar:Yeah, sure. I'll make some screenshots for you later today.

Cool, thanks.

Okay, NoExcuses, here's a Ogg Vorbis (I couldn't get the MP3 to work) of one of my songs.Icaria Ogg Vorbis (NOT FOR MOVIE)
And here's the Ogg Vorbis of the song we'll use for the credits:

Credits Song Ogg Vorbis (FOR MOVIE)
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Oh, sorry I forgot about the Menus pictures, NoExcuses. Here's they are:

PAL DVD Menu:

NTSC DVD Menu:

Layout (NoExcuses, you can ignore this if you want):

Just wondering, do you think it's possible to do a "Full-length commentary", or is that a little bit too much?

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NoExcuses Wrote: Mr. Sinistar Wrote:Oh, sorry I forgot about the Menus pictures, NoExcuses. Here's they are: Cool, they look great. But... isn't this movie in 16:9?

Oops! LOL Here's the final one. I didn't make a PAL version through since Blender's 16:9 PAL is virtually the same.

NoExcuses Wrote: Mr. Sinistar Wrote:Just wondering, do you think it's possible to do a "Full-length commentary", or is that a little bit too much? There may be another way, but the only way I'm aware of is to have two duplicates of the movie on the DVD, one with the commentary, and one without. Then, the 'Commentary' button on the menu would just take you to the version with commentary, and the play button would take you to the normal version. That would take up more space on the disk, but it's the only way I know of. But so long as we're not making a two hour epic (at least I don't think we are...), it should still all fit on the DVD nicely.

Gosh, no; this movie is going to be maybe 6-7 minutes tops, so this movie shouldn't take that must space on the DVD at all.

NoExcuses Wrote: Mr. Sinistar Wrote:I kinda want to emulate the original TRON-Wendy Carlos music for this movie. You pulled that off very well - the credits song is very Wendy Carlos! Icaria is really cool too - you're a good musician.

Thanks a lot! I really appreciate that!

NoExcuses Wrote: Mr. Sinistar Wrote:Unfortunately, that means no new school electronic music (which I love). I'm more of a rock-cum-metal-cum-blues-cum-progressive jazz-cum-80s rock-cum-folk guy myself. That was a mouthful (or possibly a keyboard-full)

My dad and I really like jazz. You gotta love Herbie Hancock. And Steely Dan, of course. Could "The Art of Noise" be considered as '80s rock? lol
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