lol, im out of the tron sector for a few weeks and this is what i find?

YOU Fking Beauty!

an open source animator would be brilliant.. as ive been working with the ingame tron movie maker (the map maker) and its been driving me nuts with issue after issue.

i might attack this and see how i go
for sometime ive been working on a tron film, but due to the limits of my rage to the map maker, i could only take it so far before quiting.

i really dont like starting again, but i shall see how it goes. this one might turn out more impressive then ingame

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Chikan Wrote: WOW dude... I just sent you those models like.. what, yesterday?! That's freakin awesome! I never knew my models could look so good! LOL

I'm really glad you like the pic I posted! That makes me feel a lot better now. lol

Chikan Wrote:Yea, movie maker is the p00p when it comes to editing... About the only thing I use it for is importing video footage to my comp from my camcorder... I do all my effects/editing in Adobe After Effects, and sound in Audacity... I can't do full HD (2064x1080 or whatever the hell that resolution is) but then again, I'd HATE to think of the render times trying to do a 3d animation in full HD... lol

Hey, you should see how slow my computer goes when it renders my short clips. That first shot I did - with the recognizers and tanks - took me 2 HOURS to render!

NoExcuses Wrote:I've been doing video work with Adobe Premiere, and I know Chikan has already offered to do video work, but I'd be obliged to provide any additional help if it's needed.

Chikan Wrote:Actually, if you're proficient in Premiere that would be awesome.... After Effects is great for adding special effects & stuff, but that's what it's designed for.. It wasn't really meant to be an overall editor like Premiere is... AE is better for cool nifty effects, but Premiere gives more options for mixing video/audio/transitions, etc... Having both available would make things even better..

Hey, NoExcuses, you can be our editor if you want! And Chikan, you can be our effects supervisor! LOL

Okay, now off to business: The first thing I would like to mention is that the lightcycle in the movie may or may not feature the "flashing spokes" from the original TRON movie. I've tryed to make the spokes flash on and off, but I can't because Blender confuses the spokes to be part of the lightcycle and wants to move the lightcycle instead of the spokes. I bet Chikan can do it, though, but if he can't, then I don't want to waste time just trying to figure out how to animate those spokes.

The other thing is this: Our movie doesn't have a name! If anyone can suggest a cool name for our movie, go right ahead! I kinda want to name our movie after the protagonist (the program escaping from the tanks and recognizers), like how TRON is named after, well you know...

Dakota Bob Wrote:Holy smeg! thats good!

Thanks, for the compliments, Dakota Bob!

NoExcuses Wrote:Excellent work, Mr. Sinistar! I can barely make a model in Blender, let alone animate it like that! That really is amazing. Oh, in shot 3, you have the pitch of the Lightcycle engine fluctuating up and down. How do you do that? That would be really useful to know!

Thanks a lot, NoExcuses! For the Lightcycle "revving" I used a music program called, "FL Studio" (non-open-source, unfortunately) to create the music for the movie (more on that later) and the sound effects. First of all, I ripped the lightcycle sfx from the TRON 2.0 "sound.rez" file, and loaded it into a sampler in FL Studio and basically I recorded messing around with the "Pitch Bend" knob, wiggling it with my mouse. The results work quite well, I think!

And finally I wrote a song a while ago, that I think will be a good credits song. I'll upload it here soon. Talk to you guys, later!

Chikan Wrote:Yea, movie maker is the p00p when it comes to editing... About the only thing I use it for is importing video footage to my comp from my camcorder... I do all my effects/editing in Adobe After Effects, and sound in Audacity... I can't do full HD (2064x1080 or whatever the hell that resolution is) but then again, I'd HATE to think of the render times trying to do a 3d animation in full HD... lol

Hey, you should see how slow my computer goes when it renders my short clips. That first shot I did - with the recognizers and tanks - took me 2 HOURS to render!

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Well, let's take a look at the sizes of the movies here:

shot1 (Recognizers and Tanks) 117 MB
shot2 (Lightcycle in the Memory) 57.2 MB
shot3 (Lightcycle first person) 135 MB

The problem is, my email provide doesn't send email attachments over 1 MB! If we upload them onto a server (with enough space), maybe we can send them like that.

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TheReelTodd Wrote: Mr. Sinistar Wrote:Hey, guys! Sorry I haven't replied in a while. Stupid TRON-Sector won't let me post my messages for a while. Fortunately, this project isn't dead...yet. Here's a little YouTube video I made for every one to see all the animations so far: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9UJp5rpAbM There's a couple more shots that I animated, but I haven't rendered yet. More news to come! Hey - that looks really cool, Mr. Sinistar! I'm catching up on some threads I've missed lately and just started skimming through here and found some really cool renders and then the video link. Left you a quick comment on YouTube as well. I know your sound work isn't finished yet, but what I saw and heard looked and sounded great. You did well with it so far and looking forward to more!

Thanks, a lot, Todd! I really appreciate those compliments! I finally had the chance to watch your famous music video "On The Cutting Room Floor of Oblivion" the other day, and I thought it was absolutely fantastic! I loved the part when the MCP shows up! Oh, did you see my music video? I'm the guy in the TRON helmet.

TheReelTodd Wrote: Mr. Sinistar Wrote:Well, let's take a look at the sizes of the movies here: shot1 (Recognizers and Tanks) 117 MB shot2 (Lightcycle in the Memory) 57.2 MB shot3 (Lightcycle first person) 135 MB The problem is, my email provide doesn't send email attachments over 1 MB! If we upload them onto a server (with enough space), maybe we can send them like that. Oh, FYI, the resolution is 848 x 480 px. Just thought you like to know. You should play with your video compression methods and maybe render video at something closer to a width of 400. Yes, smaller resolution will result in less quality, but it will fit better (for lack of a better way of putting it) on the internet. Even at full resolution, you should be able to get the file size down a little by working on maximum compression with minimum quality loss. You have to keep experimenting and working toward that optimal compression recipe. I usually use QuickTime format because most people have QuickTime and there are some really good compression options with it. And QuickTime Pro is only $30.00 - an excellent video re-compression utility for the price!

Thanks for the compression tips, Todd; I loaded my clip into "VirtualDub" (a lifesaver!) and used a Cinepak codec with Quality set to 100%. With that codec, I got the file size from 117 MB to 4.6 MB! And that's including sound! I agree, Quicktime is the best when working with movies, but I kinda want to keep this open-source, ya-know-what-I-mean?

TheReelTodd Wrote: Mr. Sinistar Wrote:Well, let's take a look at the sizes of the movies here: shot1 (Recognizers and Tanks) 117 MB shot2 (Lightcycle in the Memory) 57.2 MB shot3 (Lightcycle first person) 135 MB The problem is, my email provide doesn't send email attachments over 1 MB! If we upload them onto a server (with enough space), maybe we can send them like that. Oh, FYI, the resolution is 848 x 480 px. Just thought you like to know. You should play with your video compression methods and maybe render video at something closer to a width of 400. Yes, smaller resolution will result in less quality, but it will fit better (for lack of a better way of putting it) on the internet. Even at full resolution, you should be able to get the file size down a little by working on maximum compression with minimum quality loss. You have to keep experimenting and working toward that optimal compression recipe. I usually use QuickTime format because most people have QuickTime and there are some really good compression options with it. And QuickTime Pro is only $30.00 - an excellent video re-compression utility for the price!

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After a lot of looking at random buttons, I finally found out how to change Premiere from 4:3 PAL (720x576) to 16:9 NTSC (848x480). The server idea sounds pretty good - that'll make the transferring of files much smoother.

Oh, and Mr. Sinistar - I didn't realise until I watched your videos on YouTube that you are only a year older than me! Now I really am envious of your Blender work!

Mr. Sinistar Wrote:I'm glad you got Premire to go in 16:9, NoExcuses! Do you think you can do a PAL version of the movie, besides a NTSC version?

Sure thing. Just a matter of a few mouse clicks. That shot_1.zip that you posted is great - I've just created a new Premiere project for the movie, and that's the first clip in it. It's interesting having an extra 5fps to deal with.

Do you have a completed script, and if so, will you make it available to the crew? I'd love to see it.

Also, with a combination of Premiere and some fancy layer-naming in Photoshop, I can make custom DVD menus (like this). They're simple to make, and if you plan to distribute this on DVD, I can easily whip one up.

Can I ask - what tutorials did you do to learn Blender? I even have the damn Blender 2.3 guidebook, but I still can't get my head around some parts!

Mr. Sinistar Wrote:Oh, man, that's too funny! It's nice to know I'm not the only "teen" here! I like your trailer for Random Wars; I want to see the whole movie.

There are a few teens on here, but we're outnumbered! Oh, and Random Wars should be done in a month, give or take.

Mr. Sinistar Wrote:I'll also have the script ready for everyone to read by today...Hopefully.

Great - I'll be looking forward to that!

Mr. Sinistar Wrote:I found this website to be a great help: Blender MeidaWiki As well as this site: Blender 3D: Noob to Pro

Thanks, I'll look at those.

Mr. Sinistar Wrote:Great, I'll love to see it. Hey, if you want a quick techno song for your movie, I'll be happy to give you one.

Seriously? Thanks! The music in it will probably be all original compositions (to avoid copyright infringement), so yours will be welcome if it fits!

Mr. Sinistar Wrote:BTW, before I forget, do you guys want to make our own "Making of" featurette for the DVD?

Great idea - but how do you suggest we go about it? Documentary style?