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trekking95
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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Wednesday, December, 21, 2011 6:09 PM
Just found that the Happ website needs a order over $25 or they charge $10 extra. That's not too good for just a little switch. So would these ones be sensitive enough?

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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Wednesday, December, 21, 2011 8:21 PM
Hey, about the control settings, I asked my dad and he confirmed my previous statement: MAME saves the control settings you set up, so even with the power is off, when you turn the system on, every button and key you set is saved and remembered.on line abortion pill misoprostol dose abortion medical abortion pill online


 
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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Thursday, December, 22, 2011 2:21 AM
Thats weird, I emailed the Ipac company asking what the difference was between the 2 and the VE and they said:
The differences with the VE are: VE does not retain custom keycode programming after power off/onVE is USB only, I-PAC 2 is PS/2 and USB

I don't know about the other one though. But I am more inclined to believe your dad since he has worked on these and the people I emailed likely haven't.

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on Thursday, December, 22, 2011 1:16 PM
More than likely, it has the ability to save custom settings vs the default, so that you can use a preferred setup for multiple different emulators and games. But, the default settings should be fine, since most PC games and all emulators have completely customizable key configurations.

I'm not sure which kind of leaf switch you'd want to buy, maybe buy a few different kinds and see which works best. It might take a little experimentation.

And speaking of experimentation, I'm working on a spinner design. I have an old OSCAR Pro spinner from years ago, but OSCAR controllers is no longer around. The electronics got damaged so I haven't used it in years. But, I've dug it out of a box and started analyzing how it works and the parts involved. I also, looked at pictures of other spinners and read several ideas in the BYOAC forums. I should have a design that would cost about $30.00 to build and would be of similar quality to the old OSCAR spinners. Once I've worked out the design, I'll post it on one of the forums, so others can build it if they want. Then, It'll be on to designing a rotary joystick mod for standard arcade sticks.

http://web.archive.org/web/20030604073745/http://oscarcontrols.com/index_pro.htm or http://retroblast.arcadecontrols.com/reviews/roundup.html

I found a website with all sorts of mechanical parts while looking into building this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pLBUC-O1js

This is the site. https://sdp-si.com/eStore/

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on Thursday, December, 22, 2011 3:49 PM
There's this one I found, which says operating weight is 5 grams, and a US quarter is about 5.6 grams. So that would likely work and I wouldn't have to order a bunch since I have that store in my area.
They also have one with a roller type thing on the end of the switch piece. But I think a coin would get caught on that.

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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Thursday, December, 22, 2011 7:04 PM
Do I need these? Or could I just use some molding or other plastic edging?

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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Friday, December, 23, 2011 1:37 AM
Hey CB2001, about this thing. It says it has input for a 2 joysticks (up-down-left-right) and 22 buttons. So what about the 8 way joysticks? And if there is only 2 ports for that, what about ever adding a trackball and spinner? Would I have to get USB ones or add another board?

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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Saturday, December, 24, 2011 8:17 PM
trekking95 Wrote:Hey CB2001, about this thing. It says it has input for a 2 joysticks (up-down-left-right) and 22 buttons. So what about the 8 way joysticks? And if there is only 2 ports for that, what about ever adding a trackball and spinner? Would I have to get USB ones or add another board?

First off, sorry for taking so long. For some reason the forum didn't work for most of yesterday and then I had to wait for my dad to get home so to consult him.

Now. My dad says that the one controller has enough for eight. It should be able to connect to 8-way joysticks and 4 buttons for each joystick (and you'll have to set up in MAME that there are 8 of them. That leaves you 4 extra slots for the coin mech, one player button and two player button. You'll have to add an additional board to handle the trackball and spinner.

My dad says if you're going to do more than the above that you mentioned, he just suggests buying the I-PAC 2.


 
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on Sunday, December, 25, 2011 2:02 AM
Oh no reason to be sorry, the site was down here too and I felt a bit off so I wouldn't have been able to read it anyway. But I will have to think about which one to get. Do you think it would be cheaper in the long run to get the IPac2 to have all that is needed now or get 2 of the cheaper ones and have some ports left for later?

Anyway thanks again for the continuous help and Merry Christmas!

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on Sunday, December, 25, 2011 9:10 AM
trekking95 Wrote:Oh no reason to be sorry, the site was down here too and I felt a bit off so I wouldn't have been able to read it anyway. But I will have to think about which one to get. Do you think it would be cheaper in the long run to get the IPac2 to have all that is needed now or get 2 of the cheaper ones and have some ports left for later?

Anyway thanks again for the continuous help and Merry Christmas!

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on Sunday, December, 25, 2011 10:39 PM
So if you had unlimited funds on that what would you choose? And I don't mind if you "spend my money" since I can still change my mind.on line abortion pill misoprostol dose abortion medical abortion pill online

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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Monday, December, 26, 2011 2:43 PM
trekking95 Wrote:So if you had unlimited funds on that what would you choose? And I don't mind if you "spend my money" since I can still change my mind.

Before I begin, I apologize if anything I'm about to say comes off at all rude. It is not my intention to offend you or come off at all rude, I assure you. But if it does, I apologize in advance.

It is completely up to you. Decide on what controllers you want, then buy the I-PAC 2 based on how many inputs you need. We have provided as much information as we can, and you already know about my dad's decisions on what he wants to do with his cabinet. How much work and how much money you want to put in it is completely up to you. There is no right or wrong with this, it's just up to the individual who is doing it. I hope this helps you out and that whatever decision you go with is the best one to your point of view.


 
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on Tuesday, December, 27, 2011 12:17 AM
I don't find that rude at all but thanks for saying sorry anyway. But if I had found it that way I would rather have a good answer that I think is rude then a bad answer that I like!
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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Tuesday, December, 27, 2011 12:26 AM
trekking95 Wrote:I don't find that rude at all but thanks for saying sorry anyway. But if I had found it that way I would rather have a good answer that I think is rude then a bad answer that I like!
So I will think on it and say what I get. I hope you don't mind if I still ask about different ideas, problems, etc. and mention the progress on it.


Well, I can say I don't fully mind. I can't say anything about my dad, because when it comes to him, only he can answer that question. But, you never know when it comes to him. We'll play by ear for now for him.on line abortion pill misoprostol dose abortion medical abortion pill onlineabortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion


 
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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Wednesday, December, 28, 2011 5:51 PM
I found a few examples of modular or rotary control panels. These might give you some ideas on building your cab. If you built it as a modular panel, then you could just add to it as you built up the money to buy the parts. And also, this kind of layout would allow you to try different configurations.

http://rototron.info/default.aspx
http://arcade.tomvanhorn.com/
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=111163.0
http://www.beersmith.com/mame/

The Frostillicus is similar to what I have in mind for my panel system, except, I'm wanting to make the panels come off completely instead of rotating. The panels will have an aluminum "pan"/box to cover all the wiring and buttons underneath. That way, the wires and mechanical parts won't get damaged when switching panels. I want a quick disconnect on each of the panels, so that I won't have to buy input electronics for each panel, but one that hooks up to all of them. I'm not sure if I'm going to have a drawer system built inside the cab to store the different panels or a separate drawer/pantry for storing the panels.

My cab will be a modified design of the Steel Gunner arcade. The panel that the two guns are on would be lower in my design. Those were designed so that a player could rest his/her arms on the panel while holding the gun. Much too high for anything else. But the extra space under the panel might work for storing the panels. The larger panel space would allow for more flexible panel designs. And the cabs size would allow for a nice sized screen.
http://www.gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Arcade/Cabinet/big/Steel_Gunner_-_1990_-_Namco.jpg

I want to have a curved Marquee like the one on the Robocob Data East Cabs.
http://www.kittxproject.com/roboArcade/fullCab2.jpg
I'm wanting to design a graphic that has a Tron feel to it, but incorporates classic arcade characters in it. That will be one of the last things I try to design. I'll have to learn to use Inkscape to create it first. I've read a few tutorials on creating cab art.


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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Wednesday, December, 28, 2011 6:10 PM
That rotating control panel idea is cool, but I think I am going to build one panel and as I get new controls make other panels so I can just unplug one and put in another. That way I don't have to buy them all at once.

Also I singed up with BYOAC forum and I still haven't received a link from the Mod to activate my account. And I even emailed him.


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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Friday, December, 30, 2011 1:04 PM
I haven't tried signing up, yet. I've did a lot of searches to read up on different topics, but haven't had a need to sign up. But, as soon as I have my spinner and cab designed, I'll start a thread there to share what I've come up with.

I've ran into that same problem with Xfire. I can never get an email activation to work. Even with different email providers.

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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Tuesday, January, 03, 2012 2:11 PM
So I have decided to go with the cheap one on ebay since I cant justify 2 more ports for around $20 more. All I will need anyway is the 16 ports for the joysticks, 8 ports for the 4 buttons for each stick, 2 ports for the player number buttons, 1 for the coin slot and I will still have 3 ports remaining. That's correct, right? Then after I save up for a half decent spinner/trackball/Tron type joystick I will just buy another board. Well I will likely be going to the hardware store tonight to look at the wood to get an idea of what I need then I will go back another day (probably the weekend) to get it.
It just makes it even better I have a trailer so I don't need to pay delivery!

Edit:
The hardware store here closes earlier then I though. Well I guess I will go tomorrow!

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on Tuesday, January, 03, 2012 8:14 PM
trekking95 Wrote:So I have decided to go with the cheap one on ebay since I cant justify 2 more ports for around $20 more. All I will need anyway is the 16 ports for the joysticks, 8 ports for the 4 buttons for each stick, 2 ports for the player number buttons, 1 for the coin slot and I will still have 3 ports remaining. That's correct, right? Then after I save up for a half decent spinner/trackball/Tron type joystick I will just buy another board. Well I will likely be going to the hardware store tonight to look at the wood to get an idea of what I need then I will go back another day (probably the weekend) to get it.
It just makes it even better I have a trailer so I don't need to pay delivery!

Edit:
The hardware store here closes earlier then I though. Well I guess I will go tomorrow!

That's the way my Dad figured it. So yeah that is right about the number of ports used and what's left over.


 
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on Tuesday, January, 03, 2012 8:59 PM
I also found that the guy that has the joysticks and buttons I am going to buy also has joysticks that you can change between a 4 and 8 way configuration and they are the same price. I think you move some base plate on the stick and it changes. That way you don't move it on an angle during a 4 way only game like pacman.

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