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Darth Tronage
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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Wednesday, December, 14, 2011 9:44 PM
The first control panel I made was from a hacked PS2 controller. It allowed me to use it with the ps2 and my pc by using a ps2 to pc controller adapter. I bought the competition buttons and stick from Happ. And there was a guy that use to make spinners and lock plates for cheaper than the competition. He since has stopped building them. I used 3/4" MDF board for the panel. Talk about heavy... But it was rock solid. I'm glad I didn't follow through with building a full arcade out of MDF. I'd need a crane to move it.

Here's a good website for some arcade building info. It hasn't been updated in quite a while now but still has some good info. http://arcadecontrols.com/arcade.htm
As far as a coin door goes, I'm definitely putting one on my arcade. Nostalgia is a powerful thing. Not to mention, I can limit the amount of playing my kids do on it. You can get tokens here. http://www.arcadetokens.com/
As far as the parts being expensive, it is a hobby. Some spend lots of money on a vehicle, art or sports gear and memorabilia, others collect or custom build arcade machines. It's a part of our electronic history. I'd love to own a pinball machine too, but those are a pretty big investment. Tron Legacy pinball machine is 6,400 dollars. Arcade machines can be picked up for around 2,000 dollars. So, building your own can be much cheaper and can be used for more than just games.where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill onlineabortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion

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trekking95
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on Wednesday, December, 14, 2011 11:50 PM
So you have to buy tokens? Why cant just quarters be used? I thought that some coin doors had a override button if you don't want coins.
Also when you say you used a ps2 controller and added a joystick and buttons, why not just use the controls on the ps2 thing? Where did you find a ps2 to pc adapter?
How much was the ps2 control?
And could a USB joystick with some little control button thing (or keyboard hack) and a spinner made out of a mouse work with old arcade games?

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on Thursday, December, 15, 2011 12:00 AM
Oh yeah, the owner of local gas station had me go to a Church she owns to have me take a picture of a organ they wanted to sell and I saw a old Arkanoid arcade cabinet in their basement. It looked in very good shape but I couldn't tell if it worked. How much would you pay for one? Or how much for a not working one just to have the case and controls? And are they easy to move around without a small army?
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on Thursday, December, 15, 2011 2:12 AM
trekking95 Wrote:Oh yeah, the owner of local gas station had me go to a Church she owns to have me take a picture of a organ they wanted to sell and I saw a old Arkanoid arcade cabinet in their basement. It looked in very good shape but I couldn't tell if it worked. How much would you pay for one? Or how much for a not working one just to have the case and controls? And are they easy to move around without a small army?
A picture will be added soon!

About your questions about tokens/coins, tokens aren't as heavy as quarters. So, that means you would have to test it out with a token and then with a quarter to see which one it takes (because some machines are balanced strictly for quarters while others are balanced for tokens). Back when I was little, the dentist I went to used to have one inside the dental work area that kids could play while waiting their turn, and it was rigged with a button where when you pressed it, the machine would read the press as a coin inserting. When it comes to MAME, you can set certain keys for certain functions, one including "coin insertion" (note, if you're going to use a pre-existing cabinet, you'll either have to modify the front where you can have a wired keyboard hidden that you can access or use a wireless keyboard and mouse in order to access MAME and the games within it). So, like I said, you don't have to have a functional coin slot, it's mainly authentic detailing for those who want to keep it "old school" or "real".

For pricing on the one you found, it really depends. I saw one (and old Pole Position standup game) at a thrift store that the owner was selling for $200. I checked Craisglist once when I was down in Orlando, and in the free section a guy was giving his away so he could free up space for his family. My point is that it really depends on the pricing, the condition of the machine and the owner. The best thing you can do is ask them if they're looking to get rid of the machine, and if they are, ask them if they're willing to negotiate a price on it. You never know until you ask.

For moving it around, before you do it, the first thing you're going to want to do is check to see if it has wheels at the bottom of the back of the machine. Out of the three machines my dad and I loaded up onto his truck, two of them of them had build in rolling wheels. These rolling wheels worked like a dolly when you had the machine tilted back (and they allowed you to easily move the machine around by rolling it). When you got it in place, all you'd have to do is tilt it forward until it rested on the front "leg" board, where it remained stationary. If the machine doesn't have one, you're going to need a dolly and a second person to help you out (and for moving it around at home, you'll either end up using the dolly or installing a set of wheels on your own so you can roll it around). where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online


 
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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Thursday, December, 15, 2011 3:06 AM
So if you have a keyboard and mouse for the some of the game controls you can still use the computer for normal use? Thats good!! You could always make a "drawer" under the controls for that. And what about a fake coin door just for looks? Also that person at the gas station is a very shrewd businesswoman so making deals could be hard, but I can always hope that she will just want to get rid of it or I could make payments!

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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Thursday, December, 15, 2011 4:19 AM
Would something like this work or do they not make adapters for this to PC or USB?
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on Friday, December, 16, 2011 7:12 PM
trekking95 Wrote:Would something like this work or do they not make adapters for this to PC or USB?
Or would this be better and then just add a joystick with a trigger?

The first one, I honestly can't say (but I wouldn't recommend it as Sega Saturn and anything Sega Saturn related may be a collectable item right now). The second one, looks like it can work, but you're going to end up either building the cabinet around the controller or end up removing the casing it's in and finding a way to hold it in place. But then again, I don't know. I'm not a major electronics guy, I'm a film/photo guy.


 
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on Friday, December, 16, 2011 10:41 PM
I also found this one, which is like the second one just a lot cheaper!!
And how would you add a "coin button" or a "player number" button?

And can you ask your dad about if the USB controls work with arcade games?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NEW-PC-LAPTOP-USB-Shock-Gamepad-Joystick-MAME-Arcade-Game-Controller-/320814332310?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab2063996abortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion

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on Friday, December, 16, 2011 11:52 PM
I'll ask him about the USB controllers working with MAME. Maybe he can answer about the controller you linked too.


 
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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Saturday, December, 17, 2011 12:14 AM
CB2001 Wrote:I'll ask him about the USB controllers working with MAME. Maybe he can answer about the controller you linked too.
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CB2001
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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Saturday, December, 17, 2011 12:40 AM
You're welcome. I'll see if I can sit him down in front of my laptop and get you an answer tomorrow.


 
dwaldrop
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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Saturday, December, 17, 2011 9:30 AM
If you want to REALLY do the controls right, check out this site. I have a co-worker who has one of these and they are very much like original arcade controls....

http://www.xgaming.com/





 
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on Saturday, December, 17, 2011 1:58 PM
dwaldrop Wrote:If you want to REALLY do the controls right, check out this site. I have a co-worker who has one of these and they are very much like original arcade controls....

http://www.xgaming.com/


Thanks for the link but they are just too expensive for me!!

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CB2001
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on Saturday, December, 17, 2011 3:39 PM
Okay, I've spoken with my dad. And this is what he says:

Those controllers won't work. What you're needing is what is known as a keyboard encoder to have the controls be read by the computer. The latest one, my dad thinks, is known as the IPAP2.

And when it comes to buttons and switches necessary for the controls, my dad recommends these or X-Arcade, which makes the controls already assembled (its the same company that's been linked here before) and that cuts out having to do the wiring yourself (especially if you're not good at wiring electronics)

I hope that's been helpful to you.

And about the coin slot thing, my dad has pointed out that eBay sells them for both token and quarter balanced, so if you want to have one, you can (again, this is for those who wish to keep things "old school"). But if you decide to not have a coin slot and are using MAME, then you're going to need to wire a button for the machine to use as the "coin inserted" button (in MAME, you can set a key to add credits to the games. So, lets say if you are playing Pacman and you need to "insert coins", if you assigned the keyboard key as X to insert coins, every time you hit X, the program will read as a coin being inserted). Like I said, you don't have to have a real coin slot, but you'll need a button (or even a keyboard key) to "insert coins" for you to play the game.


 
trekking95
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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Saturday, December, 17, 2011 4:12 PM
Actually I found a decal that makes a 3D looking coin slot.
Anyway thanks for all of you and your dads help with this!
That set is a very good deal, does it come with the control switches for the joysticks and the coin buttons, I cant tell. And how do you wire it to the computer? Or is that what the x-arcade or the Ipap2 (can you link the Ipap2? when I search it all I get is African politics) thing is for? But I will have to find another one since that guy only ships to the US and I am in Canada. Or maybe he will ship here if I ask nicely.

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CB2001
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on Saturday, December, 17, 2011 5:19 PM
Sorry about that, I mistyped it. It's a I-PAC 2. Link here.

The control switches comes for the controlers that linked. But for the coin slot button, it doesn't come with a button for the coin. All you need to do for the "coin inserted" button is to just install a button and then assign it with that function through the software.

However, my dad found an actual coin slot on eBay. He says you could also get the doors for the eBay as well, but they're heavy and because of that, the shipping is going to be a bit costy.where to buy abortion pill abortion types buy abortion pill online


 
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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Saturday, December, 17, 2011 5:43 PM
That's not a bad price!
So you basically just wire the buttons, coin slots, joysticks, etc. to the I pac2 and the computer will recognize the commands? That sounds easy if that's how it is. And for the convenience of the other one with the prewired thing its not worth the higher price to me. I am pretty good at it for computers so it should be similar. So where can the wires be purchased? Also the Ipac2 says it has a USB interface. Will it work since you said that USB wont work for arcades? Or is it just the USB joysticks/buttons that don't work?
Oh yeah, the guy with all the buttons wont take questions on his items since he
DOES NOT ship to Canada!!! At least they are a good price here too!!

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CB2001
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RE: Build a Arcade?

on Saturday, December, 17, 2011 6:40 PM
trekking95 Wrote:That's not a bad price!
So you basically just wire the buttons, coin slots, joysticks, etc. to the I pac2 and the computer will recognize the commands? That sounds easy if that's how it is.

Yes, you wire them up, the computer will recognize it and it is that simple

And for the convenience of the other one with the prewired thing its not worth the higher price to me. I am pretty good at it for computers so it should be similar. So where can the wires be purchased?

Radio Shack (or equivalent) or auto parts store. 18 gauge should do it.

Also the Ipac2 says it has a USB interface. Will it work since you said that USB wont work for arcades? Or is it just the USB joysticks/buttons that don't work?
Oh yeah, the guy with all the buttons wont take questions on his items since he
DOES NOT ship to Canada!!! At least they are a good price here too!!

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2-Joysticks-and-14-Buttons-Arcade-Multicade-MAME-Jamma-/110687176621?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c57847ad

I said that the original arcade machine controllers for Karate Champ won't work with USB (which is why my dad cannibalized the game controller I mentioned before, because he's basically using it as the keyboard encoder to connect to USB). When you wire up the buttons and controls to the I-PAC 2, you should be able to connect the I-PAC 2 to the USB drive and get the controls to respond. Good find on another seller who ships to Canada. Seriously, eBay is useful.


 
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on Saturday, December, 17, 2011 10:33 PM
CB2001 Wrote:Seriously, eBay is useful.
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on Saturday, December, 17, 2011 11:40 PM
trekking95 Wrote:And I think the Canada one does not have the wrench. What is that for?

It used to tighten up the nuts that hold the button housings in place (think of it like this: you have a bolt and a nut. Basically, the wrench is used to tighten the nut after you slide the bolt through the hole. The same thing applies with the button housing and the nuts that come with them).


 
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