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Posts: 182 | RE: Will JEFF BRIDGES appear in TRON 3? on Monday, May, 30, 2011 9:56 PM
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Posts: 49 | RE: Will JEFF BRIDGES appear in TRON 3? on Tuesday, May, 31, 2011 4:27 AM
According to the interview with Kosinski, he is still in there, just fragmented.
So they'd at least need his voice to play the obvious role of a "spirit in the grid" or whatever you'd call it.
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Posts: 274 | RE: Will JEFF BRIDGES appear in TRON 3? on Tuesday, May, 31, 2011 4:23 PM
typicaltronname Wrote:CorrupTron Wrote:Matter converted to energy. On the grid he exists as code. You would not age. You would essentially achieve immortality, the only thing you would have to worry about is corruption and viruses or getting wiped out. Think about it. If you digitized yourself into a computer you would exist purely as digital code. |
I understand your view, but I have a question.
If They, Kevin and Sam, existed as digital code, how would you explain Sam's bleeding when he's hit By Rinzler?
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My best guess there would be that Flynn's system takes the data gathered from the Shiva laser and uses it to create a total simulation of the User's body within the system, complete with functional virtual organs and what have you. As for why, Flynn's "Grid 2.0" may have been deliberately designed to simulate "scanned-in" Users more faithfully than Encom's old server did. Flynn had ambitions to revolutionize medicine and the sciences, after all, and this would allow for things like medical research and surgery from inside the system. And a faithful simulation of the human body would by definition include modeling the aging process.
The question of why Flynn wasn't just a pile of digital bones and dust by the time Sam got there is a little trickier. He was in there for a thousand cycles, after all. Maybe Flynn discovered that human bodies, even simulated ones, just stop working properly if you don't model things like cellular deterioration to at least some degree. So Users on the Grid would still age, but they'd do it at the slowest rate that Flynn could safely get away with.
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Posts: 401 | RE: Will JEFF BRIDGES appear in TRON 3? on Tuesday, May, 31, 2011 4:55 PM
If a user should derrez they would return to the real world. So he may return in Tron 3
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Posts: 274 | RE: Will JEFF BRIDGES appear in TRON 3? on Tuesday, May, 31, 2011 11:56 PM
LIT Wrote:If a user should derrez they would return to the real world. So he may return in Tron 3 |
If that's the case, Flynn and Sam were never in any danger, and Flynn could have returned to the real world whenever he wanted by committing suicide on the Grid.
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Posts: 585 | RE: Will JEFF BRIDGES appear in TRON 3? on Wednesday, June, 01, 2011 12:17 AM
According to Bruce Boxleitner's interview at the Phoenix Comic-Con (see ShadowSpark's link to the video clips in that thread), Jeff Bridges, Garrett Hedlund and Olivia Wilde have all signed on to return for the next TRON film. Bruce said he has not entered into a contract as of yet.
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Posts: 1,178 | RE: Will JEFF BRIDGES appear in TRON 3? on Wednesday, June, 01, 2011 12:55 AM
HooDooMan Wrote:According to Bruce Boxleitner's interview at the Phoenix Comic-Con (see ShadowSpark's link to the video clips in that thread), Jeff Bridges, Garrett Hedlund and Olivia Wilde have all signed on to return for the next TRON film. Bruce said he has not entered into a contract as of yet. |
He didn't specify because he didn't want to, but it seemed he hasn't been asked yet. Jeff pulled for him once before, surely if he is in the next film, he will do so again. Maybe the execs just wanted to lock down the main stars.where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online
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Posts: 2,394 | RE: Will JEFF BRIDGES appear in TRON 3? on Wednesday, June, 01, 2011 7:00 AM
Okay, dude, they seriously can't not have Tron in Tron. I'm just sayin'. Are they on crack? Honestly, sometimes I wonder... I swear this whole thing's a big social experiment. "And next, what will they do if we don't have Tron in the next movie?"
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Posts: 150 | RE: Will JEFF BRIDGES appear in TRON 3? on Wednesday, June, 01, 2011 10:34 AM
If it's between Bruce and Bridges being in the next movie, it makes way more sense to have more Bruce. If the plot is going to revolve around the Dillingers, then Alan Bradley is going to have to be key in the real world. Since the movie is goddamn CALLED TRON, and we saw Tron himself reassert his individuality at the end of Legacy, then it follows that we'll see more of him.
On another note, Bruce Boxleitner's less wrinkly, less saggy face made for WAY better facial motion capture. Tron in the flashback sequence looked way better than Clu in the entire movie. I want to see more young Boxleitner, and the quality of his mocap is proven to be better than Bridges'. Less overacting and algorithmic tweaking and smoothing needed.
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Posts: 1,178 | RE: Will JEFF BRIDGES appear in TRON 3? on Wednesday, June, 01, 2011 9:20 PM
Speaking of capture, if Clu isn't in the next film, they'll only have to do Tron/Bruce. And no at least they know how to do it. I imagine Bruce would be willing, since he has said only he can do Tron.where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online
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Posts: 274 | RE: Will JEFF BRIDGES appear in TRON 3? on Friday, June, 03, 2011 2:46 AM
IluthraDanar Wrote:Speaking of capture, if Clu isn't in the next film, they'll only have to do Tron/Bruce. And no at least they know how to do it. I imagine Bruce would be willing, since he has said only he can do Tron. |
I wouldn't mind seeing Clu return. Most people seemed willing to overlook the 'CG-ness' of his face, given that he was supposed to be a program; the main complaint seemed to be that the effect was jarring when applied to Flynn in the real world in flashbacks. (I found the effect pretty damn convincing myself, but opinions vary.) Recycling the Clu facial model and mocap tech would cost next to nothing, since the hard work is already done. And if reintegration fragmented Flynn, it seems reasonable that the same thing happened to Clu.
Now I'm imagining Team Dillinger on a quest to hunt down Clu's code fragments with the intent to use them as the core of/integrate them with a new Master Control Program...
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Posts: 1,178 | RE: Will JEFF BRIDGES appear in TRON 3? on Friday, June, 03, 2011 10:16 PM
Icon57 Wrote:If it's between Bruce and Bridges being in the next movie, it makes way more sense to have more Bruce. If the plot is going to revolve around the Dillingers, then Alan Bradley is going to have to be key in the real world. Since the movie is goddamn CALLED TRON, and we saw Tron himself reassert his individuality at the end of Legacy, then it follows that we'll see more of him.
On another note, Bruce Boxleitner's less wrinkly, less saggy face made for WAY better facial motion capture. Tron in the flashback sequence looked way better than Clu in the entire movie. I want to see more young Boxleitner, and the quality of his mocap is proven to be better than Bridges'. Less overacting and algorithmic tweaking and smoothing needed. |
The youthified Tron looked quite good, except for the fact that HE WAS TOO SHORT! *runs before the who-gives-a-damn folk appear*
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Posts: 2,394 | RE: Will JEFF BRIDGES appear in TRON 3? on Friday, June, 03, 2011 11:57 PM
IluthraDanar Wrote:Icon57 Wrote:If it's between Bruce and Bridges being in the next movie, it makes way more sense to have more Bruce. If the plot is going to revolve around the Dillingers, then Alan Bradley is going to have to be key in the real world. Since the movie is goddamn CALLED TRON, and we saw Tron himself reassert his individuality at the end of Legacy, then it follows that we'll see more of him.
On another note, Bruce Boxleitner's less wrinkly, less saggy face made for WAY better facial motion capture. Tron in the flashback sequence looked way better than Clu in the entire movie. I want to see more young Boxleitner, and the quality of his mocap is proven to be better than Bridges'. Less overacting and algorithmic tweaking and smoothing needed. |
The youthified Tron looked quite good, except for the fact that HE WAS TOO SHORT! *runs before the who-gives-a-damn folk appear* |
*Quietly appears and raises flag for the "GIVES-A-DAMN" contingent*
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Posts: 274 | RE: Will JEFF BRIDGES appear in TRON 3? on Saturday, June, 04, 2011 9:49 PM
*Quietly appears and raises flag for the "GIVES-A-DAMN" contingent*
(Oh, and I thought de-aged Bruce looked pretty good too...but then again, it was from a distance and/or in action, and relatively dim. Close up in brighter light, who knows. But he did look rather different, IMO, than original-movie Tron [though the helmet in the original didn't help; those make everybody look different]. We could speculate on why--if he'd been upgraded, is that why he would resemble slightly-older Alan, then? and yada yada. Anyway, I suppose it's one of the perils of basing the appearance on an older version of the actor.... they maybe should've based both on the original-movie appearances of the actors instead and worked from there? But I really have no idea how that whole young-ification process works, but it seems I remember someone having said here a while back that they had modeled after Jeff Bridges later on rather than earlier.) |
Yeah, I believe someone (Kosinski?) mentioned in an interview that Young Flynn/Clu's appearance was modeled after Jeff Bridges' face in Against All Odds, which was released back in '84.
As far as the visual differences between Tron Classic and New Tron go, I imagine Alan continued working on Tron over the years. When Flynn was setting up his new Grid, he probably asked Alan for an up-to-date copy of the Tron source code to use as its protector, making New Tron a more recent version. As for why he looks more like the new Grid's programs, but still retains some of the styling cues of Tron Classic, my guess is that it's because he's been ported to another platform - while the core logic is the same, some changes were probably required to get him running on a different machine. So his appearance reflects that, combining the look of programs native to Flynn's server with the visual cues that are unique to Tron.
All this talk about height has me wondering how tall JB and BB are in real life...
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Posts: 2,394 | RE: Will JEFF BRIDGES appear in TRON 3? on Saturday, June, 04, 2011 10:23 PM
Argent Wrote:*Quietly appears and raises flag for the "GIVES-A-DAMN" contingent*
(Oh, and I thought de-aged Bruce looked pretty good too...but then again, it was from a distance and/or in action, and relatively dim. Close up in brighter light, who knows. But he did look rather different, IMO, than original-movie Tron [though the helmet in the original didn't help; those make everybody look different]. We could speculate on why--if he'd been upgraded, is that why he would resemble slightly-older Alan, then? and yada yada. Anyway, I suppose it's one of the perils of basing the appearance on an older version of the actor.... they maybe should've based both on the original-movie appearances of the actors instead and worked from there? But I really have no idea how that whole young-ification process works, but it seems I remember someone having said here a while back that they had modeled after Jeff Bridges later on rather than earlier.) |
Yeah, I believe someone (Kosinski?) mentioned in an interview that Young Flynn/Clu's appearance was modeled after Jeff Bridges' face in Against All Odds, which was released back in '84.
As far as the visual differences between Tron Classic and New Tron go, I imagine Alan continued working on Tron over the years. When Flynn was setting up his new Grid, he probably asked Alan for an up-to-date copy of the Tron source code to use as its protector, making New Tron a more recent version. As for why he looks more like the new Grid's programs, but still retains some of the styling cues of Tron Classic, my guess is that it's because he's been ported to another platform - while the core logic is the same, some changes were probably required to get him running on a different machine. So his appearance reflects that, combining the look of programs native to Flynn's server with the visual cues that are unique to Tron.
All this talk about height has me wondering how tall JB and BB are in real life... |
I actually looked this up not long ago because I was referring to characters' height for a story. I think the consensus was 6'1" and 6'2", respectively.
(BTW, do not ever look up actors' heights online. The arguments I found about how tall so-and-so is got pretty damn heated (esp. as related to Garrett Hedlund and Cillian Murphy; it seemed to be accepted that BB is 6'2" and not too many arguments about JB's height either). You'd have people saying "He's totally X height" and someone else would say "No he's Y height, look at this picture of him next to this other famous person whose height we know" and then a third person says "Na, he doesn't look like he's 6'1", he's maybe 6'0 3/4" though" and then a fourth person says "but look at him in this picture next to my friend whose height I know" and then person 1 says "but how do we know your friend is that height as opposed to *saying* they are that height?" And you're thinking, "dude, who cares that much? Just take a guess!")
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Posts: 1,178 | RE: Will JEFF BRIDGES appear in TRON 3? on Saturday, June, 04, 2011 10:36 PM
All I know is BB is slightly taller than JB. Yes, 6'2" and 6'1". Wish I'd asked Bruce to stand when I met him last weekend. In the film, Rinzler is almost the same as Quorra, too big a difference for my taste.
I know some people think it's stupid to care about the height difference, but imagine if the performance actor they got to play Clu's body was 5'6", how lame would that be.
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