He may have NEEDED to age so that he wouldn't go bonkers. He could have programmed it into the grid that he would age at a rate that was parallel with the real world rather than the grid world - after all, realize that he's been in the grid for the equivilent of hundreds of years.

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Swann Wrote: CorrupTron Wrote: typicaltronname Wrote: CorrupTron Wrote:Matter converted to energy. On the grid he exists as code. You would not age. You would essentially achieve immortality, the only thing you would have to worry about is corruption and viruses or getting wiped out. Think about it. If you digitized yourself into a computer you would exist purely as digital code. I understand your view, but I have a question. If They, Kevin and Sam, existed as digital code, how would you explain Sam's bleeding when he's hit By Rinzler? it's not really blood, just a construct of every single atom and molecule that existed in his body in the physical world. I don't agree that he was digital. Sam and Kevin were flesh and blood. Kevins aging proves this. Where are the bodies when they are in the grid?

Stored as energy in the Shiva laser matrix.

How would you explain to a worshipful program that you will die? And what would Quorra have done with his body when he did? Is the Grid dirt based? I didn't think so. If he were digital, would he vanish like Ram did?

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overRIDE Wrote:If we're going to debate the whole aging debacle, then why not bring up the question as to what the hell Sam and Kevin have been breathing? (You think that's air your breathing?)

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Swann Wrote: CorrupTron Wrote:Swann OBVIOUSLY failed Physics 101. Matter is converted into energy. There is no physical body. They explained how the digitization process works with the Shiva laser in the first film. "The molecules remain suspended in the laser beam..." Man, you trying to actually explain this with physics is comical. It is a film and a fictional universe. The most plauisble explaination is that they were actually in the grid. This is what the writers intended and anything you are throwing down is just your wild view on the movie. BTW, I did not fail physics.

Actually, you're both wrong (assuming CorrupTron is referring to the Legacy Shiva laser). There are four canisters at the bottom of the Shiva laser that act not only as stands, but containers for the subject's physical matter. When the subject is zapped by the laser's beam, their physical matter is broken down and stored in the four canisters at the bottom, while their consciousness is converted into data.

WildWill Wrote:He may have NEEDED to age so that he wouldn't go bonkers. He could have programmed it into the grid that he would age at a rate that was parallel with the real world rather than the grid world - after all, realize that he's been in the grid for the equivilent of hundreds of years.

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*edit* this reply was to a now banned member.Thus is irrelevant now.

As for the aging, I think the reason is similar to why we age in real life. Over time certain parts of our DNA, etc. start to get damaged or start to break down and do not function or replicate the way they do when we're younger. I figure that over time Flynn's code, as it is so much more complicated than a normal programs, starts to get errors in a similar way.

Research into aging has also shown that at certain points instructions having to do with some physical processes actually "turn off" and contribute to the bodies aging. For instance certain proteins don't replicate the same way and so your skin isn't as taut as before and starts to sag.

So if you think about it that way you could say that Flynn's code is "programed" to age already.

Honestly Corruptron has a valid arguement and is not over analyzing things. How the laser worked was established in the first movie from what Walter explains. Matter is converted to energy, (not stored in canisters) then converted back to matter like the transporters in Star Trek.

When Flynn is returned to the "real world" he reappears in the exact same pose as when he was first hit by the beam. I do like Tron Legacy but honestly the writers contradicted the first movie by having Flynn age. Energy doesn't age. The digital template that representing a User's body shouldn't age either.

ShadowDragon1 Wrote:I hope that he will be in "Tron 3". Flynn's digital form is *data*, and data/files can be defragmented/re-compiled. It's just a matter of locating all the data fragments and re-compiling them.

That was my take on it too. I wonder if they are going to make it sort of like Star Trek III, but it will be "The Search for Flynn" instead