I liked Avatar in that it set a unique and beautiful world. Loved the air flight sequences and the whole eco system of that world of Pandora.

Digging a bit deeper, having recently studied Native American history, I found it interesting that the story was nature loving people verses military. Sounded sadly familiar to me.

I am glad the nature people won in the end. And the Native Americans did too. But greedy people came back with bigger guns, yadda yadda... sad story.

I am hoping in the rumored second and third movie that they don't go that route. I hope the corporate people are driven off, leaving us with a story of how a Avatar unites the people of a Alien world. THAT would be cool.

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doctorclu Wrote:I liked Avatar in that it set a unique and beautiful world. Loved the air flight sequences and the whole eco system of that world of Pandora. Digging a bit deeper, having recently studied Native American history, I found it interesting that the story was nature loving people verses military. Sounded sadly familiar to me. I am glad the nature people won in the end. And the Native Americans did too. But greedy people came back with bigger guns, yadda yadda... sad story. I am hoping in the rumored second and third movie that they don't go that route. I hope the corporate people are driven off, leaving us with a story of how a Avatar unites the people of a Alien world. THAT would be cool.

I, too, agree with you, doctorclu as well, and I also see a parallel between the Na'vi and the Masai of Kenya, as well as any other African (and/or Indigneous )people who faced a similar thing, and I'm also glad that the Na'vi won at the end of the movie. Hopefully, in the sequel, the Na'vi will continue to triumph in the end, and be able to completely restore themselves. One common facet of a lot of ancient peoples, especially those in the Eastern Hemisphere, is a metaphysical connection with nature and the cosmos. The way that the Na'vi could connect their hair tendrils (forgot what they were called in the movie) and the way they could communicate with Eywa, a sacred tree, reminded me of two things:
1)The metaphysical concept that all things are inherently intertwined with each other;
2)The concept of locks in Rastafarianism. The "dread" part of that word did not come about until after the Jamaicans were enslaved, as their enslavers dreaded seeing those locks. Anyway, Rasta locks are seen as antennae used to connect with the creator. Therefore, the longer one's locks, the more in tune they are spiritually, per the concept.

I also love how the Na'vi were fashioned after Cats as this was one animal (along with Cows, and Hawks) that was heavily revered in Ancient Times, especially in Kemetic culture.

Much props to James Cameron for making this movie.

Zuse Wrote:There's a great review on Avatar at http://www.redlettermedia.com. I couldn't have said it better myself so I won't try.

Ditto!!!
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I didn't hate Avatar, but I didn't really like it either. I just didn't feel the overall theme of the story was all that interesting. "Save the trees" isn't something I'm against, but it's not something that I want to watch for three hours, either.

Though I may have some kind of subconscious bias against it. James Cameron's surprise Avatar press conference during Ubisoft's E3 press conference nearly put me to sleep. I wanted to hear news about videogames. Instead James Cameron is standing on a stage quite literally droning on for (not an expression) 15 minutes about the entire movie's plot in extreme detail.

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Logan that's very true in regards to the 3D. I remember Captain EO very well (and a huge fan of it too).
The thing I believe here (mind you this is just my opinion of course) is that these film producers have an understanding that it is a business and not one that's been doing all that great these days, frankly due to economy mostly and possibly the internet. I remember the ticket prices being debated years back. Many people opted to stay home and rent movies instead unless the big screen release was a "must-see" movie event.

Like you mentioned in another post, they do and will continue to cater a broad choice of movie going casuals out there and not so much the zealots of sci-fi. Not a lot people want to think too much when watching a movie these days. Sure that's pretty embarrassing. But I think life's current stress levels and bad economy play a strong role and begs for quick, easy to follow and memorable "FUN" films.
I really think people today have a lot on their minds and if Avatar or any other film was incredibly immersed in deep thinking, sci-fi gibberish, I don't think it would have gotten the praise it received.
Of course, this is why it's also ripped by sci-fi zealots throughout no doubt.

Take my gf for instance. She's a smart girl attending college, learning a foreign language and on top of that, raising two wonderful children and working a day job. She went along with me to watch Tron and she said that if only she knew what all that ISO's tech talk was about, she probably would have liked the movie even more. She doesn't know anything about computers outside of turning one on and getting on the net.
But she's hardly dumb. I look at that as an example to why Tron Legacy didn't receive the film critic praise it deserved.
Sure we all bow to it to some degree because it was a bit techie, required scientific thinking which many of you are very good at doing and of course, we all know the Tron lingo by heart (or most of us here do, I believe). But for some people, it was like "huh?".

And that's just the way the world is brother.

I agree that Avatar wasn't super smart. But it was a thrill ride. And I think that's what Cameron got caught up in doing so more than anything. I mean obviously he's an activist. That's been known for some time now actually.

I still don't get why people pit Avatar vs Tron Legacy though? Did someone make an official statement that Avatar was better than Tron or something? How did this come about, I'm still wondering. heh.

cool83 Wrote:I didn't like it's anti-business, anti-millitary, anti-technology story line.

This, and I'll also add James Cameron's ego and that I believe all the hype Avatar recieved was for the 3D aspect and not on it's own merits as a film. It wasn't that it was such a good movie, in that it was more of a spectacle, like watching fireworks.
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Nar78 Wrote: I must admit, I never saw Dances With Wolves, Pocahontas, Fern gully nor the entire Dune film. So when I saw Avatar, it didn't feel like an overly used formula to me.

Movies are pop music for the eyes. They all have this common formula;

"Boy meets girl under a silvery moon which then explodes for no readily apparent reason".

There.

zordmaker Wrote: Nar78 Wrote: I must admit, I never saw Dances With Wolves, Pocahontas, Fern gully nor the entire Dune film. So when I saw Avatar, it didn't feel like an overly used formula to me. Movies are pop music for the eyes. They all have this common formula; "Boy meets girl under a silvery moon which then explodes for no readily apparent reason". There.

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cool83 Wrote:I didn't like it's anti-business, anti-millitary, anti-technology story line. The media loves this leftist stuff. That's why it did so well. That's all they would talk about. That and king obama. I swear that blue chick crying over dead flowers was driving me crazy.

How is the media liking leftist stuff when its the SAME media
allowing your Republican / Right-Wing propaganda?
If the media was truly leftist YOU and your ilk would cease to exist !
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