Tron Fanatic User
Posts: 1,461 | Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 5:43 AM
Not that I'm seeing why someone wouldn't like this film, especially if someone doesn't like rehashed plots, but what makes Avatar so much more special than the other billion and one films that have recycled plots from previous films? I can count the number of original screenplays that come out each year on one finger... if I'm lucky. So Avatar is doing nothing that other movies aren't doing, aside from using some unique tech to achieve its effects, BUT...
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Posts: 18 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 7:29 AM
I, for one, didn't hate Avatar. I just didn't LOVE it as much as many others did. For me, it was just OK.
I wanted to be blown away by Avatar, though. And I wasn't.
I thought the effects were impressive, but the story and the acting did very little for me, personally.
But hey, tons of folks loved it, and that's great, too.
My frustration (and this is my first post on this subject) is that T:L did blow me away. It was a ton of fun and was presented in a way that was novel to me.
For it to be snubbed in the Oscar categories of visual effects, costumes and, most aggregiously, soundtrack, it disappointing to me when so much praise was heaped upon Avatar.
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cool83 User
Posts: 411 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 7:48 AM
I didn't like it's anti-business, anti-millitary, anti-technology story line. The media loves this leftist stuff. That's why it did so well. That's all they would talk about. That and king obama.
I swear that blue chick crying over dead flowers was driving me crazy.
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Posts: 234 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 9:57 AM
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Nar78 User
Posts: 235 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 12:32 PM
I loved Avatar. I'm all for mother nature. It may have been a bit cliche but like Tron Fanatic said, what movie isn't?
I know this movie was political and just with any other political film, there will be people taking sides to either rip it to shreds or praise it to death. In this case, Avatar won more praise than shreds. And I for one, applaud it. It was a fun and exhilarating film with many heartfelt, meaningful moments. Since I do have a heart, I appreciated every moment of that.
No hate here.
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IsoLine User
Posts: 1,025 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 12:39 PM
The Politics of Avatar offended me greatly. I personally feel there are other scifi movies that have gone in the same direction as Avatar and done a far better and less obvious job of getting their message across. Unfortunately scifi still seems to be a medium in which authors try to push agendas and to me it gets a bit facetious and boorish. If I am going to see your movie don't assume I'm seeing because I need to be guilted into submission about the enviroment and/or given allegory of the plight of native peoples versus heavy handed corporations or the "White Man". I don't need every movie I watch to tell me something profound and Cameron doesn't seem to get that.
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Gnoop User
Posts: 54 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 1:12 PM
Avatar was ok. It's a movie I saw once and really didn't have the need to see again.
The story wasn't all that interesting. It was an aliens vs. humans action movie where humans were the bad guys (mostly) this time and a few changing sides. Dances With Wolves, more or less. While visually stunning at times, I wasn't really blown away either. All in all, I wouldn't say it's bad but it's not something I'd even bother to rent let alone buy.
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Posts: 416 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 1:31 PM
I thought it was an ok movie to watch on satelite, but I wouldn't pay $17 to see it in the theater or buy the dvd. I watched it without any idea what the story was about and by the end I was dissappointed that I had seen it all before. IMO it was all hype driven by "movie critics" and group conformity that made people rave about the movie.
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Posts: 54 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 1:45 PM
A lot of people say Avatar was overrated, but I feel the better term is over-hyped. Nothing lives up to Internet Hype (tm). It was a quality film with amazing cutting edge visuals. Pretty much in line with all Cameron films.
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Posts: 235 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 2:11 PM
IsoLine Wrote:The Politics of Avatar offended me greatly. I personally feel there are other scifi movies that have gone in the same direction as Avatar and done a far better and less obvious job of getting their message across. Unfortunately scifi still seems to be a medium in which authors try to push agendas and to me it gets a bit facetious and boorish. If I am going to see your movie don't assume I'm seeing because I need to be guilted into submission about the environment and/or given allegory of the plight of native peoples versus heavy handed corporations or the "White Man". I don't need every movie I watch to tell me something profound and Cameron doesn't seem to get that. |
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Posts: 168 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 2:15 PM
I like Avatar as much as I like the Tron movies (or Star Wars, for that matter). I didn't care to much for the story, but the storytelling was engaging and I found the characters interesting.
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ShadowDragon1 User
Posts: 2,056 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 2:21 PM
I don't hate it. Despite it being very deriviative of other films and such. I thought it was pretty good.
I didn't mind it's heavy handed message at all. I feel that people/civilization that don't remember history, will eventually repeat the terrible acts of the past....
"The film is about finding human connection in an increasingly digital world." - Joseph Kosinski
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Logansneo User
Posts: 106 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 2:53 PM
ShadowDragon1 Wrote: I don't hate it. Despite it being very deriviative of other films and such. I thought it was pretty good.
I didn't mind it's heavy handed message at all. I feel that people/civilization that don't remember history, will eventually repeat the terrible acts of the past.... |
There's remembering history as to avoid repeating it, and then there's flogging a dead horse, which is where our society seems to be stuck. Let's move forward together as a people and not let ourselves be manipulated by politicians using prejudice and fear as tools to get votes!
Sorry.......what were we talking about again? ; )
Oh yeah! As far as Avatar is concerned it was generally entertaining but lacked a significant ingredient that Tron Legacy was chock full of. Heart. I felt the producers of Avatar got caught up in a similar paradox that the makers of The Phantom Menace did in trying to overwhelm the audience with visuals while leaving characters and story to suffer. Avatar was a bit better in the story aspect that TPM but characters were fairly one dimensional and I wasn't able to keep myself engaged with Avatar in the way I was with Tron Legacy. The each his own...... |
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Posts: 3,488 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 3:09 PM
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ShadowDragon1 User
Posts: 2,056 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 3:14 PM
uuh.. yeaaah.
In my opinion Avatar did have heart. Yes it's message(s) where very heavy handed, but I still enjoyed the movie. I rather watch Avatar than 98% movies that came out over the past 2 years.
But Tron Legacy was something else. I immensely enjoyed it, and I think it's a awesome seqeul to the original TRON. But it's ending left me feeling really down, like a friend has just died level of sad. Which it's good that evokes a strong emotional response, but still leaves me really wanting a sequel with something uplifting and triumpant in it like TRON (1982) ending did.
For me Avatar's ending left me feeling elated and triumphant and hopefull, few movies to none ever evoke such a feeling in me.
"The film is about finding human connection in an increasingly digital world." - Joseph Kosinski
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IsoLine User
Posts: 1,025 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 3:15 PM
Logansneo Wrote:ShadowDragon1 Wrote: I don't hate it. Despite it being very deriviative of other films and such. I thought it was pretty good.
I didn't mind it's heavy handed message at all. I feel that people/civilization that don't remember history, will eventually repeat the terrible acts of the past.... |
There's remembering history as to avoid repeating it, and then there's flogging a dead horse, which is where our society seems to be stuck. Let's move forward together as a people and not let ourselves be manipulated by politicians using prejudice and fear as tools to get votes!
Sorry.......what were we talking about again? ; )
Oh yeah! As far as Avatar is concerned it was generally entertaining but lacked a significant ingredient that Tron Legacy was chock full of. Heart. I felt the producers of Avatar got caught up in a similar paradox that the makers of The Phantom Menace did in trying to overwhelm the audience with visuals while leaving characters and story to suffer. Avatar was a bit better in the story aspect that TPM but characters were fairly one dimensional and I wasn't able to keep myself engaged with Avatar in the way I was with Tron Legacy. The each his own...... |
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Kite User
Posts: 32 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 7:19 PM
It was ok, not my fave movie or anything. One part that bothered me though the whole last part of the movie was that....
Spoilers just in case. Go watch it will ya?
... Jake passes out and totally forgets afterward to tell the Na'vi that the humans only want their resources, not their lives.
Though I can't remember if the humans attacked during the time he was out. But still, he could have done something a lot sooner. What a derp.
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Posts: 609 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 8:11 PM
Avatar was bull****.
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Posts: 1,667 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 8:19 PM
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Posts: 593 | RE: Why the Avatar hate? on Thursday, January, 27, 2011 9:37 PM
ShadowDragon1 Wrote: I don't hate it. Despite it being very deriviative of other films and such. I thought it was pretty good.
I didn't mind it's heavy handed message at all. I feel that people/civilization that don't remember history, will eventually repeat the terrible acts of the past.... |
I agree wholeheartedly with you ShadowDragon. Fighting for TRON, The USERS, Both Flynns, Independents, and the mighty ISOs since '82. |
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