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Posts: 593 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 5:08 PM
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I think it's Jordan Canas, Kevin Flynn's Wife and Sam's Mom.
I like the Tron poster on the opposite wall, as well as the 1st-Generation Light Cycle pillowcases and the 1st-Generation yellow lightcycle on his wallshelf as well as the Recognizer bedspread. That was pretty cool! Was worried they wouldn't show any 1st-generation 1982 stuff in the flashbacks.
Also, I love the dirty tape heads effect on the bottom of the screen during the newsfootage- that was pretty cool! - as well as Flynn coming out of the copter from the end of TRON, and Flynn standing in front of a packed crowd with the HUGE Encom logo on the wall. where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online Fighting for TRON, The USERS, Both Flynns, Independents, and the mighty ISOs since '82. |
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Posts: 593 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 5:18 PM
lildivaaa Wrote: I am SO jacked up for this movie...BUT, just now seeing this latest trailer gets me very worried!! The CGI they've shown us for both Kevin Flynn in the real world as a younger age with Sam and with CLU look so UNBELIEVABLY RUBBERIZED AND FAKE!!! If there is anything that will kill this movie, it's going to be that Disney spent all their time and effort into making the "TRON World" itself, and not enough into these younger Jeff Bridges characters!! I am very nervous now for TRON: Legacy.
I mean, think back a few years and films ago...remember the de-ageing they did for "X-Men: The Last Stand", where Professor Xavier and Magneto were "younger" when they met Jean Grey for the first time? And how about "The Curious Case of ? Benjamin Button"? I mean, the photo-realistic effects were completely believable with Brad Pitt ageing and de-ageing.
Why couldn't have Disney gotten the same quality either one of those films had for TRON: Legacy??
Color me a little sceptical at this point, but don't get me wrong...I am still 100% a die hard fan for TRON: Legacy. I have been a fan of TRON since 1982 and I was 14 years old. I'm just a bit worried for the performance of the younger Flynn/CLU characters. |
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Posts: 1,461 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 5:19 PM
Could be draft-quality renders that they used for the trailers. You'd think they'd have to be more careful. It's not just HD, it's HD3D. Attention to detail is even more necessary now.
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Posts: 382 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 5:38 PM
I guess it could be draft-quality renders, but I've never heard of marketing people using unfinished footage in trailers before. That's when they want to put their best foot forward to attract as many people as possible.
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CaptainCR User
Posts: 1,468 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 5:53 PM
RustyMuffler Wrote:CaptainCR Wrote:I honestly don't see why ppl are complaing. the CGI on younger Flynn and Clu is epic. yes obviously if someone looks for it purposely, they can tell it's CGI or they can find imperfections btu at least it looks better than it did before. ppl need to stop complaining..it's not like it's gonna ruin the entire movie or whatever..even if the CGI on younger jeff briges doesn't look better than what we see now..wooopdie friggin do...use ur imagination to suspend your belief like your still able to do wtih the CGI in the original TRON...
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Do you EVER see why anyone is complaining? LMAO! And... Epic? Whoa, boy. Optical exam. Go. Go, now.
I've now watched this thing with about ten different people and nearly every one of them have asked me about the Kevin and CLU shots with zero prompting on my part. And while I have ALREADY stated repeatedly that every other element of the visuals is on point, to ignore the fact that the effects work to de-age Bridges isn't exactly working is simply blind devotion talking. It isn't like anyone has said, "OH NOES! Young Bridges looks crap. The movies is DOOMED!" It's simply an honest observation that I would bet even Kosinksi himself has been addressing. |
yes i do see why ppl complain sometimes although on the forums apparently it's ALL the time over EVERY LITTLE THING. and all i said was that i think it's silly how ppl keep constantly complaining about the CGI for Jeff Bridges...it's friggin CGI it's not gonna look 100 or 999,000 percent realistic. and i'm tired of ppl making jackass remarks on here as a way to get their point across. i don't need to go to an optometrist. my eyesight is just fine and i stand by what i said: the effects on Jeff Bridges looks epic. yes, obviously u can tell it's CGI but whoopdie fcking doo. i have never seen a movie where the CGI was so outrageously perfect to the point you can't even tell it's CGI, not a single movie..not even Avatar. the point of "realistic" CGI is to make it look as real as possible even if u can tell it's not real. be glad it doesn't look like how it did with the first trailer.
seriously ppl on these forums are b!tching way too much and too often about the same ld sh!t and it's getting really annoying. "You know you don't look a thing like your pictures?" |
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Posts: 1,461 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 6:00 PM
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Posts: 382 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 6:12 PM
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Posts: 1,468 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 6:50 PM
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Posts: 1,468 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 6:52 PM
cirlin Wrote:Can we please stop, or at least reduce all the bickering going on around here these days? This has always been one of the friendlier sites online, but lately it seems to be the same couple of arguments coming up all the time between the same people, and it’s really making a lot less fun to come here. At the same time this should be the best time to be coming here because the day we’ve been waiting so long for is getting so close! Please recognize that when you start yelling and swearing at each other you are doing it in front of everyone and bringing us all down. It feels a bit like finally getting that big house you always wanted and inviting your friends over just to have a few of them get mad and start yelling at each other. It makes it pretty hard to enjoy the party at that point. |
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Posts: 103 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 7:21 PM
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Posts: 2,056 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 7:35 PM
I never thought I'd see the day I'd get flamed by *some* people here on Tron Sector for being positive about a Tron sequel. Wow... just wow.... truely sad....
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lildivaaa User
Posts: 10 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 7:44 PM
RenegadeProgram Wrote:lildivaaa Wrote: I am SO jacked up for this movie...BUT, just now seeing this latest trailer gets me very worried!! The CGI they've shown us for both Kevin Flynn in the real world as a younger age with Sam and with CLU look so UNBELIEVABLY RUBBERIZED AND FAKE!!! If there is anything that will kill this movie, it's going to be that Disney spent all their time and effort into making the "TRON World" itself, and not enough into these younger Jeff Bridges characters!! I am very nervous now for TRON: Legacy.
I mean, think back a few years and films ago...remember the de-ageing they did for "X-Men: The Last Stand", where Professor Xavier and Magneto were "younger" when they met Jean Grey for the first time? And how about "The Curious Case of ? Benjamin Button"? I mean, the photo-realistic effects were completely believable with Brad Pitt ageing and de-ageing.
Why couldn't have Disney gotten the same quality either one of those films had for TRON: Legacy??
Color me a little sceptical at this point, but don't get me wrong...I am still 100% a die hard fan for TRON: Legacy. I have been a fan of TRON since 1982 and I was 14 years old. I'm just a bit worried for the performance of the younger Flynn/CLU characters. | Actually, from what I understand, Disney DID use the same software that was used in "Curious Case of Benjamin Button". |
Well...if that's the case, then the Disney CGI department needed to take some training courses on how to use that software correctly and effectively. When I look back on footage from "Benjamin Button" and compare any of it to what I've seen so far from TRON: Legacy, it doesn't even look like it's in the same ballpark.
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CaptainCR User
Posts: 1,468 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 7:56 PM
lildivaaa Wrote:RenegadeProgram Wrote:lildivaaa Wrote: I am SO jacked up for this movie...BUT, just now seeing this latest trailer gets me very worried!! The CGI they've shown us for both Kevin Flynn in the real world as a younger age with Sam and with CLU look so UNBELIEVABLY RUBBERIZED AND FAKE!!! If there is anything that will kill this movie, it's going to be that Disney spent all their time and effort into making the "TRON World" itself, and not enough into these younger Jeff Bridges characters!! I am very nervous now for TRON: Legacy.
I mean, think back a few years and films ago...remember the de-ageing they did for "X-Men: The Last Stand", where Professor Xavier and Magneto were "younger" when they met Jean Grey for the first time? And how about "The Curious Case of ? Benjamin Button"? I mean, the photo-realistic effects were completely believable with Brad Pitt ageing and de-ageing.
Why couldn't have Disney gotten the same quality either one of those films had for TRON: Legacy??
Color me a little sceptical at this point, but don't get me wrong...I am still 100% a die hard fan for TRON: Legacy. I have been a fan of TRON since 1982 and I was 14 years old. I'm just a bit worried for the performance of the younger Flynn/CLU characters. | Actually, from what I understand, Disney DID use the same software that was used in "Curious Case of Benjamin Button". |
Well...if that's the case, then the Disney CGI department needed to take some training courses on how to use that software correctly and effectively. When I look back on footage from "Benjamin Button" and compare any of it to what I've seen so far from TRON: Legacy, it doesn't even look like it's in the same ballpark.
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uhm i'm sorry but the effects on the curious case of benjamin button looked nowhere near as good as the effects on Jeff Bridges for Tron Legacy...and honestly for both that movie and the footage we've seen so far, i can tell it's CGI....i don't see how someone can look at the benjamin button movie and not clearly see it's effects are not as good as the effects on jeff bridges...also don't see why ppl are worried..the film is not finalized yet.. "You know you don't look a thing like your pictures?" |
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Posts: 324 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 7:58 PM
That trailer was spectacular! No more trailers for now.. please, that can not be topped. I loved the buildup and editing, first look at the solar sailer and light tank, the narration, the emotion in bridges, the retro set design in young sam's room, kevin flynn in black robe, the light jet scene.
Things I'm not sure about: at the 1:21 mark Sam running out of the building in the Tron World world. Seems like a not so cool way to arrive there.
At 21 seconds is that a cg bridges? Also is that the same clip from the original tron of bridges coming out of the encom helicopter?
Overall this completes my excitement for the film.
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ShadowDragon1 User
Posts: 2,056 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 8:00 PM
Digital Domain themselvess are doing all the CGI on TL, not Disney, all the same artists that did Benjamin Button are working on this.
I'm pretty sure that what will be seen in the finished movie will be as close to a photo real person as one can get with all of Digital Domain's immensely talented CG artists and the all the tools that they use put into affect in the final renders.
It's unfortunate that some here are very over-critical and it seems like nothing can match their level of ultra-perfection they expect... ah well.
I for one will be open to enjoying the movie instead of focusing on whatever "fakeness" that some see in Clu or Flynn (at 35-39)'s CG...
It's unfortunate that some people rather make vague near insulting jabs at others here. It's fine to have a opinion, but it seems anyone with a positive opinion is harshed on and that's way uncalled for. If you don't like the CG, fine, then don't watch the movie if it so offends you.
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Posts: 123 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 8:02 PM
looking back at ben button i see a tremondous amount of light on the face to throw it off or make it somewhat diquisable which is why i think its looks good. i don't think you can compare the to (imo).
I think Tron Legacy is fine as it is already, sure it can get better, but damn what do you guys want. Maybe a release 2 years from now when technology is insanely better
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Posts: 354 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 8:02 PM
Just saw the new trailor in the "No Ordinary Family" episode. It was mostly scenes we have already saw, but there was a few new scenes that where added. And I just love the last bit with Sam and Quorra in the light runner. Quite a great trailor overall. |
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Posts: 253 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 8:08 PM
I love this trailer! The best one yet. But the cgi Jeff Bridges is very... distracting. I have a hard time believing that this is the final render. Benjamin Button looked amazingly real and the young Bridges is being handled by the same team. I'm hoping the final product looks better. If not, when we go to see the movie we're going to get sucked in, and then this CGI Bridges is going jar us back into reality, breaking our suspension of disbelief and reminding us it's just a movie. And if that happens the viewers and critics will tear this movie apart, leading to a lower budget sequel or none at all.
I love CGI, that's what attracted me to the original Tron. But the visuals have to be consistent. If CLU looks CGI then so should all the other programs. The stars of the show shouldn't look less real than all the other characters. At least in the original Tron, everything was meant to look CGI. That was the visual clue that you were in the world of the computer. Sometimes less is more.
But, again, I don't think this is the final product.
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Posts: 580 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 8:14 PM
I think the trailer looks great. I think the young Bridges CGI is fine. It's the nature of the internet for people to pick these things apart ahead of time. In the context of the movie hopefully you'll be transported enough you're not going "Oh, that shadow is totally unrealistic" blah blah blah. It's easy to do at home looking at a trailer on a computer. If you're doing that at the theater either you or the movie has a serious issue... and it's probably the movie.
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Posts: 3,301 | RE: NEW TRAILER NEXT TUESDAY NOV. 9TH!!! on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 8:47 PM
Calling someone over-critical is a matter of perspective, SD1. If you don't notice the CG effects on his face does that make you destined for mediocrity? Underwhelming and non-quality oriented in your job? Not necessarily, but some might come to that conclusion. Thinking it, though, is one thing. Saying it on a forum to judge someone is a different story and asking for a conflict. Just something to keep in mind to help make this forum more civil again, free of personal jabs someday.
I like the new trailer. Shows a more personal and maybe emotional side of the film to draw in viewers who maybe need that. It's hard for me not to notice the CG'd mouth and chin, though. I think I'll get wrapped up in the moment when watching the film on big screen and not care, but it is something I hope they fix. Seems like enlarging it to IMAX size will make it just as obvious or more. If not, when this comes on DVD, I won't be watching it on a 6-story screen in my living room, so I hope they fix it so I don't notice it very much on my TV screen or portable DVD player. I didnt notice very much the Ben Button CG head until the end when be was young, like 17 years old. I didn't believe he was real in any part of that 5 to 10 minute segment; totally saw CG. My hope is that Flynn won't make me think that way. The trailers have me worried, but I'm crossing my fingers. Observant and detail-minded, yes. Overly-critical or too detail-minded? That's you're perspective and I'd take offense if you said that or twisted it into, "I don't know what you are 'complaining' about." Complaining being the word lacking tact.
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