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Goat!
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Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Thursday, August, 05, 2010 12:36 PM
So I noticed that in the newest trailer for Legacy, Rinzler has the same insignia (four illuminated squares making a "T" shape) on his suit as Tron did in the original. Anyone know the history of Rinzler? I wonder if he's an updated/corrupt version or something.


 
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Re: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Thursday, August, 05, 2010 12:47 PM
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Re: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Thursday, August, 05, 2010 3:40 PM
It's being assumed that Rinzler is Tron. We don't know how Tron turned into Rinzler.

Also, that Dan Shor rumor has got to be a mistake.


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Goat!
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Re: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Thursday, August, 05, 2010 5:36 PM
Any speculation as to what/how could Tron get corrupted? Doesn't seem to make sense ESPECIALLY if Flynn is seen as the 'creator'... Tron was one of the first to align himself with Flynn...

Thoughts?


 
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Re: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Thursday, August, 05, 2010 5:58 PM
Mr. Sinistar Wrote:It's being assumed that Rinzler is Tron. We don't know how Tron turned into Rinzler.

Also, that Dan Shor rumor has got to be a mistake.


I'm thinking Tron got 'rectified' by Clu. Remember the infamous "Rectify" or "Games" sequence where Sam is in the Recognizer? I'd suspect that Tron got brainwashed by Clu to his side. His code got re-written.

Something to think about.


 
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Re: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Thursday, August, 05, 2010 6:18 PM
Goat! Wrote:Any speculation as to what/how could Tron get corrupted? Doesn't seem to make sense ESPECIALLY if Flynn is seen as the 'creator'... Tron was one of the first to align himself with Flynn...

Thoughts?


probably when he got in the mcp with his disk towards the end of the movie. Moreso, same thing with clu, when he was derezzed by the mcp. That was Big clue that he would have gone rogue & be in the 2nd movie.where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online


 
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Re: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Thursday, August, 05, 2010 7:06 PM
C:/N4M3LE5S Wrote:

probably when he got in the mcp with his disk towards the end of the movie. Moreso, same thing with clu, when he was derezzed by the mcp. That was Big clue that he would have gone rogue & be in the 2nd movie.

It was Flynn that jumped into the MCP to distract it so Tron could throw his disc in to de rez it.

Anyways, there is a larger thread about this in this same forum, which has a lot more views on this. My suggestion is that you look at other forum topics before posting.


 
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Re: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Thursday, August, 05, 2010 9:08 PM
My suggestion is that you leave the moderating up to the site staff. If they have a problem with the thread, they can decide whether (or not) to move, delete, or make a snarky comment about it (they would, however, have the right to do all three, and I wouldn't say a word). I am assuming they don't, considering Mr. Sinistar commented and did not relocate and/or delete the post.

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Goat!
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Re: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Thursday, August, 05, 2010 9:43 PM
PS

Nameless's idea isn't all that unlikely...

Eventhough Tron didn't jump into the MCP's beam, his disk (the one thing that dictates what he can and can't do), went through the heart of a corrupt system as it was glitching, due to Flynn's jump.




 
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Re: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Thursday, August, 05, 2010 9:48 PM
That could of happened, but programs don't originally carry disc's. The disc's were given to captured programs that are forced to play in the games. So as far as discs "Controling" a program, is unlikely, but might still happen.abortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion


 
Goat!
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Re: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Thursday, August, 05, 2010 10:58 PM
So Sark and the MCP are behind the discs? I definitely have never gotten that impression (though I do see your point). I always thought Sark's little training speech was just exposition. I considered the discs a 'coming of age' thing, or something.

In any case, I don't think that 'dictates' was the correct word; however, Sark says "anything you do or learn is imprinted on the disc". So, that leads me to believe that there is a strong connection between the disc and the program. I just don't think that Sark and the MCP could create an object with such a strong link to the programs prior to completely absorbing the program itself.

Which also brings up the question, if the discs are just trinkets given to the warriors, why are they necessary at the I/O towers? The I/O interface seemed to be something sacred and old (like a church) in the movie. So, my assumption is that they predate Sark and the MCP (at least in its all-powerful form).


Am I making sense? It's late...


 
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Re: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Thursday, August, 05, 2010 11:17 PM
I was under the impression that the disks were given to the programs as weapons to use against each other and to log there progress. But when they left the grid Alan was able to modifying the code of his disk to take down the MCP. The irony, the MCP is destroyed by a weapon he designed for lesser programs to destroy each other.

For me, there isn't enough info yet to determine if Rinzler is Tron or not. I'm leaning toward not. Maybe, he's an altered copy of him. Hopefully, Tron Evolution or the comics will answer this question.

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Re: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Thursday, August, 05, 2010 11:35 PM
Here's how I think it goes down:

Program to user communication can be done without the identity disc (as seen in the first movie when Flynn communicates with Clu in his tank). In fact, I just realized that Clu is the only program that doesn't have a disc.

The disc is something that is exclusive to the TRON System (possibly an unintentional creation by Flynn) and when the MCP took over, he decided to use the disc as the perfect way to track every program's instructions, code, etc. I don't think the MCP created the disc, however we're not sure if Flynn created it either. It may have been a fluke or something, IDK. Overall, it becomes a very useful weapon, as well as a tool for storing data and code.

Tron probably knew that even if he were to reach the MCP and face him off without Alan's code, he would lose. Alan probably knew a weakness of the MCP or just wrote some commands to Tron in order to help Tron break through the force field and derez the MCP.

Ugh, I'm rambling and it's getting late

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Re: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Friday, August, 06, 2010 2:09 PM
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Hmm? I'm confused. By the way, if I may, I'd recommend shrinking the size of your signature picture. It's rather screen filling.

On topic, I think it's safe to say that Rinzler is Tron in some form, and remember that this is a completely separate server from the one seen in the first movie so whatever happened with the MCP and whatnot should be irrelevant. That is, of course, unless the data was migrated somehow, but I doubt they would've migrated corrupted programs.


 
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Re: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Saturday, August, 07, 2010 12:32 PM
I'm pretty sure that we'll find out who rinzler is or at least more about him in Tron: The betrayal http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii61/Super_Saiyan_Marita/TRON/Photoon2010-08-07at1023.jpg
Especially when looking at this part of the poster I got at comic con

(Nearly) Full Poster: http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii61/Super_Saiyan_Marita/TRON/Photoon2010-08-07at1037.jpg
I took a pic of it and that's why it's reversed XP

My thoughts would be that Rinzler is someone else. If that's him in the poster his hair style doesn't look like he would be Tron o.o

If it is Tron I'd say Tron chose to betray Flynn and join Clu to look legitimate but Tron is still siding with Flynn and only joined to be sort of a spy ^^;

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Re: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Monday, August, 09, 2010 8:22 PM
Flynn316 Wrote:Rinzler is Ram from Tron 1

IMDB has Dan Shor listed as the actor playing him.
IMDB is user edited and should never be trusted


 
Goat!
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Re: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Tuesday, August, 10, 2010 12:12 AM
Soundwarp Wrote:
Flynn316 Wrote:Rinzler is Ram from Tron 1

IMDB has Dan Shor listed as the actor playing him.
IMDB is user edited and should never be trusted


The issue is that the official website has Shor listed, as well.


I can see Flynn creating a security program that combines the skills of the original Tron (hence the "T") and the "razzle-dazzle" of RAM (hence the double disc).

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Re: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Tuesday, August, 10, 2010 12:30 AM
And that the official page also has questionable issues which is why we're all stuck at "What the hell is going on?!"

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RE: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Friday, October, 22, 2010 12:55 AM
I have this theory, nothing to back it up though..

Maybe the T on Rinzler is a clever marketing technique. Similar things have been done before, like Captain Price being replaced by Ghost in Modern Warfare 2 trailers and Raiden being replaced by Solid Snake in Metal Gear Solid 2 trailers.

Just a thought that just popped into my mind.


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RE: Rinzler a descendant of Tron?

on Friday, October, 22, 2010 1:04 AM
Just so you know, I got into MGS *after* that whole bit of Raiden and Snake swap.

(Good ol' summer of 2005 where I spent so much time playing MGS:TTS, MGS2, and MGS3. X_x)

...though, thanks to the comic, I think I'd have to go with occam's razor (simplest explaination).

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