...now that we can appreciate it in all detail, that is.

For starters, I think it was a very nice touch showing, at the very beginning of the trailer, at the Walt Disney Pictures logo/intro, that, visually speaking, this is all about 'entering a digital world' as everything kind of 'turns into a grid' and the river starts to show a certain glow as if it was a 'pure source'... anyone?

Then we see clouds, lightning and... more grid! But these rock-like formations against crystal clear landscapes really are something, I tell you... I just love the look and feel of it all.

Now, a year ago, I remember there were discussions about the 'faces in the helmets' and thought they were the actual actor's faces + some cool technology in Mr. Bridges case, but that's not the case! At least in this VFX concept test... The realism and level of detail in our 'fleeing/running' program's face is awesome but I would've liked them better sticking somewhat to the formula used in the original: Live actors in the digital world instead of digital actors in the digital world. On a side note, it's curious how when we first see the 'blue guy', he doesn't have a "rod" stuck to his left leg, but the moment he starts running... there it is! He grabs it and throws it in the air... Onto the lightcycle chase/battle we go.

Sound effects and sound editing throughout the trailer simply rule. Pure awesomeness in this regard. Maybe with the exception of the blue cycle crashing... a more dramatic sound effect would've been better for my taste...


But this thread's topic's about the story... or better still, it's about the things we can conclude about TRON Legacy's story thanks to and according to this VFX concept test/teaser trailer... Could such thing be concluded from it? I firmly believe so.

But lemme explain this first... We all know that TRON touches at so many levels, right? The thing that does it for me regarding TRON, the thing that made its morals truly worthwhile and one that really struck a chord, the thing that maintains it at this almost "epic" level at all times story-wise, IS this 'User-Program' relationship. This 'mortal-higher being' type of relationship. If TRON Legacy doesn't touch on this "spiritual component" I'm in for the disappointment of my life!!! But this is where Mr. Steven Lisberger comes in...

Mr. Lisberger's also interested in the spiritual side of things. And Mr. Lisberger's involvement in TRON Legacy is a fact. Remember how TRON gives hints of Flynn's "fascination" for different cultures and beliefs? We get to see this "robe" of his with some 'oriental symbols' in it and some 'african artifacts' in his bedroom at FLYNN'S. Well, Kevin Flynn resembles Mr. Lisberger in a certain kind of way... Mr. Lisberger has a fascination for Indian culture, for example (Read this interview for proof). He's very much into classic western philosophy, duality, hinduism, mandalas, mantras, etc... You wanna know what TRON Legacy will be about in this regard? Read this EXCELLENT interview with the main man... But if you want proof of all this I'm talking about, just ask yourself, WHAT IS THAT COOKED PIG DOING ON TOP OF THE TABLE INSIDE THE DIGITAL WORLD???


OF COURSE IT'S THE DIGITAL WORLD! CANDLES DOESN'T LIT LIKE THAT!


Here's comes the shocker... According to Wikipedia: (AND YOU CAN SAY THIS MAY BE WHAT TRON LEGACY'S STORY WILL REVOLVE AROUND/BE ABOUT)

Pigs in religion

- In ancient Greece, a sow was an appropriate sacrifice to Demeter and had been her favorite animal. Initiates at the Eleusinian Mysteries began by sacrificing a pig. Of all the mysteries celebrated in ancient times, these were held to be the ones of greatest importance for these mysteries were intended to elevate man above the human sphere into the divine and to assure his redemption by making him a god and so conferring immortality upon him".

I'm sure Kevin Flynn's inside the digital world but in a different kind of way this time... He's concerned about his creations... He's kinda like 'overseeing' how TRON City evolves the 'right way' so he may become a god...



TRON Legacy will be darker. It's not about games anymore. Kevin Flynn has matured. I assure you we will NOT be seeing 'programs in the real world' in the movie.

If you just want to see some 'pork', fine. But I'm not.

Thanks for reading.


p.d. Now that I give it a thought, a whole year waiting to watch this VFX concept test in a "decent" way wasn't that "frustrating". I predict the same thing will happen til next year's Comic-Con... but after that, I fear it'll be like eons until the premiere...where to buy abortion pill abortion types buy abortion pill online

TRON.dll Wrote:See some pork? Are you suggesting the inclusion of a triple-x love scene?

DUDE.

I have a feeling I just caused this thread to go into a tailspin that will result in it becoming a conversation about digital world porn.

Also, anyone notice that the clouds had a grid-like texture to them when they flashed? Also, when the blue rider is going through the hole in the wall, at the part where the camera is looking at him from a top down perspective, you can see the yellow rider, in his bike with no lights on, jump across the top of the canyon from left to right. Then, when the blue rider comes out of the canyon, we see the yellow rider fall down from the sky from the right driving away from us.

We can assume by this that the yellow rider was actually driving on top of the canyon, then jumped off the top to cut off. It also shows that when the lightcycle mark 5's lights are turned off, it does not leave a trail. This is a potential gameplay element in the new lightcycles game seen in the trailer.

That's neat.

KiaPurity Wrote: Dakota Bob Wrote: TRON.dll Wrote:See some pork? Are you suggesting the inclusion of a triple-x love scene? Well, it would be interesting to see what happens inside the computer when people start having cybersex :P SYNTAX ERROR *head explodes*

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I can see what you mean VRAM, it's alot to take in w/o you quoting the source.

That being said, it's interesting how he uses the information to explain the plot in that article, I'll write more tomorrow, just wanted you to know I'm reading what you're saying, it's very interesting.

I do wonder how much influence the concept will have in the movie, after reading what you've said, it's a great point. Thanks for writing on this.

I just figured it was a reference to the "Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite" section of 2001 (the part where Bowman ends up in a white, glowing room filled with 18th century funiture).

VRAM Wrote:...now that we can appreciate it in all detail, that is. For starters, I think it was a very nice touch showing, at the very beginning of the trailer, at the Walt Disney Pictures logo/intro, that, visually speaking, this is all about 'entering a digital world' as everything kind of 'turns into a grid' and the river starts to show a certain glow as if it was a 'pure source'. anyone?

Yea nice intro, I liked the idea that they are showing off the cartoony "virtual side" is going to visit Tron.

But this thread's topic's about the story... or better still, it's about the things we can conclude about TRON Legacy's story thanks to and according to this VFX concept test/teaser trailer... Could such thing be concluded from it? I firmly believe so.

Such as the name Sam? Who is the other Sam?

Although my understanding is based in a different translation of the mystic nature, from what I've read, this I understand: that his alternate person CLU is possibly a consciousness he must reciprocate as himself at some point. During this process as seen at the end of the concept trailer, if he himself is rogue, Kevin Flynn must reclaim his balance in life by using his son to secure his lineage through developed language known by his self, and his son. Possibly translated through a woman, who will have mercy and protect them. (I made a quick guess)
But let's hope this is a different form of thought altogether.. I could read about this stuff all day long, and it does no justice to the explanation in the movie.

Mr. Lisberger's also interested in the spiritual side of things.

And that fact makes this interesting. Let's just hope this movie is 4 hours long.



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So, taking 'religion' into account, I think there are some "examples" that could help us get an idea of TRON Legacy's "really generic plot", one mentioned above, the other being :

- In Hinduism the god Vishnu took the form of a boar varaha in order to save the Earth from a demon who had dragged it to the bottom of the sea.

But what more can we 'deduct' if we 'analyze' the other aspects of the teaser trailer instead... What about the new movie's 'title'? TRON 'Legacy' We all know about the movie's 'legacy' in the industry for being the first movie of it's kind... THE technological breakthrough in computer animation. So let's tackle the more 'technical' side of things... According to Wikipedia:


A legacy system is an old computer system or application program that continues to be used, typically because it still functions for the users' needs, even though newer technology is available.

There is an alternate point of view — growing since the "Dot Com" bubble burst in 1999 — that legacy systems are simply computer systems that are both installed and working. In other words, the term is not pejorative, but the opposite. Bjarne Stroustrup, creator of the C++ language, addressed this issue succinctly:

"Legacy code" often differs from its suggested alternative by actually working and scaling.
—Bjarne Stroustrup


Legacy code is source code that relates to a no-longer supported or manufactured operating system or other computer technology. The term can also mean code inserted into modern software for the purpose of maintaining an older or previously supported feature. More recently, the software engineering community has developed other interpretations for the term legacy code. Among the most prevalent are source code inherited from someone else and source code inherited from an older version of the software.

mmm... I wonder...

VRAM Wrote:More recently, the software engineering community has developed other interpretations for the term legacy code. Among the most prevalent are source code inherited from someone else and source code inherited from an older version of the software.

I think this is how Clu v2 was created.

Taken from: http://www.flynnlives.com/images/diversificationfull.jpg
Since [Flynn's] infamous departure, no one has filled the void, but the EnCom Corp. has subsisted on a backlog of ideas, sketches, and programs rifled from Flynn's personal files.
It also says that Alan Bradley stepped down as COO in protest to this practice, which he characterized as "grave robbing".

I'm thinking Encom got a hold of an earlier version of Clu's code (aka legacy code) from Flynn's old files and compiled it into the badass Clu that currently exists right now.

Or Encom got a hold of all of the data that the MCP appropriated (which included Clu that was derezzed in the first film) and restored it, however Clu was corrupted in the process or Encom added new updates which corrupted Clu.

EDIT: Yes, calthaer, it's been confirmed that Alan Bradley will appear.

Mr. Sinistar Wrote:... I'm thinking Encom got a hold of an earlier version of Clu's code (aka legacy code) from Flynn's old files and compiled it into the badass Clu that currently exists right now. Or Encom got a hold of all of the data that the MCP appropriated (which included Clu that was derezzed in the first film) and restored it, however Clu was corrupted in the process or Encom added new updates which corrupted Clu.

Cool CLU theory in fact Mr. Sinistar...


There you have it fellow programs... What do you think happened to CLU and how does this relate to the story/main theme we've but 'speculated' so far?