Jademz User
 Posts: 0 | Re: TR2N News on Monday, August, 18, 2008 11:51 PM
ShadowDragon1 Wrote: That still makes little sense IMO.
The Blue Program said "what are you doing? You won OK! It's just a GAME! "
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I didn't hear it that way, the first sentence was muted out of the sequence from the leaked trailer, but clearly the blue program did say, in panic, despondency and disgust, or in cowardice disbelief and confusion, "it's just a game?" exactly. Not "What are you doing? You won OK! It's just a game!"
I'm not claiming I'm 100% right, since there's no other proof, but the thought of a Tron movie with grown men on lightcycles wondering if it's just a game is VERY off. I'd put money on it. if I'm wrong, that's ok too. If you guys want to make the blue guy out to be a cry baby.. I for one wouldn't.
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ShadowDragon1 User
 Posts: 2,056 | Re: TR2N News on Tuesday, August, 19, 2008 1:10 AM
Jademz, you forget, I saw the TR2N Teaser trailer live at Comic Con,
the Blue Program did say " You won, ok! It's just a game!" in an exclamatory tone, he wasn't saying it as a question.
"The film is about finding human connection in an increasingly digital world." - Joseph Kosinski
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Jademz User
 Posts: 0 | Re: TR2N News on Tuesday, August, 19, 2008 2:30 AM
hm.. I know you saw it live. I just don't believe it was written so subtly. I don't mean it in a bad way, it's just that I had to draw parallels with the action sequence. That changes my opinion to address that they're using some original stuff, which I didn't think was the case until now..
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Hikaru.EXE User
 Posts: 1,005 | Re: TR2N News on Tuesday, August, 19, 2008 6:24 AM
ShadowDragon1 Wrote: It's like someone showing a starving man a grilled hamburger patty and then walking away...
The starving man thought he was going to be giving something (possibly a juicy Hamburger) to eat, but the man with the grilled hamburger patty just walks off. See what I'm getting at?
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lurkinghorror User
 Posts: 803 | Re: TR2N News on Tuesday, August, 19, 2008 12:06 PM
ShadowDragon1 Wrote rumming up hype and expectations for a film to be made (if it's just an idea being on a big "maybe" status) is a bit manipulative, deceptive or possibly fecicious I think. |
Well, manipulative and deceptive are just two different words for marketing. That said, I'm sure whatever branch of the company showed the test reel had only the best intentions. I'm just saying that showing a test reel isn't synonymous with a green light or official pre-production. It's not a promise of a film, no matter how people react to it. Even an official announcement with a release date isn't a promise of a film. If it were, we'd have had a couple of sequels already.
Anyway, as I said earlier, this is the closest we've been. So things look promising. It's important to note that Disney has not abandoned Tron. Time after time, sequel news pops up. Everyone I have ever met within the company is very positive on Tron and wishes to see a future for the license.
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Qix77 User
 Posts: 2,991 | Re: TR2N News on Tuesday, August, 19, 2008 3:18 PM
I predict that this thread is going to be the most active thread the sector has ever seen for the obvious reasons..
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death-program User
 Posts: 0 | Re: TR2N News on Tuesday, August, 19, 2008 3:51 PM
Jademz Wrote:
A friend was discussing this with me, and stated that the bad guys on LCs in Tron were red in blue LCs, and since I've mis-placed my DVD, I didn't have baselines to assist in my opinion. Now I know ppl here know this and may have stated that the programs are taking on their own kind, prescriptive by the MCP in one instance, in several arenas the bad guys were blue, clearly the evidence describes what's happening may be entirely unique to what level of the game they're in, or who or what designed them, going back to original designs. Such as green/blue=bad. Very interesting. |
Maybe it's like in  , where colors don't seem to matter. Like integration in the Tron Universe.
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Jademz User
 Posts: 0 | Re: TR2N News on Tuesday, August, 19, 2008 6:39 PM
death-program Wrote:
Maybe it's like in , where colors don't seem to matter. Like integration in the Tron Universe.
Dr. King will be happy. |
Now that you mention it, colors are used thematically in Tron 2.0, and the singleplayer mode shows significant changes for individuals functions within the system. I believe the beta had different speed disks for certain colors, which has since been patched.
The reason it's not obvious in multiplayer modes is because game was rushed out with all the glam and no guts.
Thematic multiplayer gameplay types needed to be installed as a mod all along, which I've been wanting to see happen for three years.. but lack of programmers has retarded the dev. of Tron 2.0 since it came out.
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 Posts: 4,467 | Re: TR2N News on Wednesday, August, 20, 2008 10:23 AM
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 Posts: 0 | Re: TR2N News on Wednesday, August, 20, 2008 11:03 AM
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ShadowDragon1 User
 Posts: 2,056 | Re: TR2N News on Wednesday, August, 20, 2008 4:58 PM
So I guess I just imagined the elements of authoritarian-facist totalitarianism and supression of people shown in TRON?
Seems like Brad didn't recongnise the subtle meanings or inner-contexts interwoven into the movie TRON....
IMO much of the music in TRON was pretty good, I think it was smooth, etheric and atmospheric, with a hint of forbodding in some pieces that was distinct as Star Wars' Imperial March....
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TheReelTodd Sector Admin
 Posts: 0 | Re: TR2N News on Wednesday, August, 20, 2008 5:57 PM
TronFAQ Wrote:Not really news, per se. But I found an article where an "outsider" who's never seen Tron before, up until this point, tries to get into it and understand what all the fuss is about. Now that a sequel is in the works.
http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/just_watched_tron_and_wondering_about_tron_2
It's a reasonable assessment, I guess. He doesn't trash it, but doesn't get it either. At least he's interested. And he recognizes that the Matrix didn't really do much that Tron hadn't already done almost 20 years earlier. Conceptually, at least. |
That was an interesting read. He didn't care for it all that much, but didn't hate it, and yet he explained how he felt about the film pretty intelligently. I think, for the most part, you really did need to be around in 1982 to really get what TRON was and the kind of impact it had on us. I can only ever see it through the eyes and mind of my 11 year old self - remembering a time when none of that stuff existed... until TRON. People who've grown up on the offspring of TRON and all that it was, can never truly understand how profound an impact the film made, from concept, to visualizations.
Hmm, this ThePlanetSaturn who left a few comments . . . don't I know him? |
I rather enjoyed the comments as well. My detective skills... er, skillz aren't as good though. I didn't realize who ThePlanetSaturn was until following through with this thread.
Thanks for lurking there for us, ThePlanetSaturn.  Excellent comment input and very well put. The author of this article can never truly understand what we all experienced, having been there when TRON hit the theaters in '82, but I think you expanded his horizons (on the subject) just a little.
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Cam_the_Man User
 Posts: 1,747 | Re: TR2N News on Wednesday, August, 20, 2008 7:30 PM
Once again, this is all *if* the trailer is footage of the film, then this makes perfect sense:
"My only guess for what the sequel possibly could be is that Flynn has taken the ability to scan oneself into the system, like he was in the first film, and is giving people a firsthand account of living out their videogame of choice. Things go wrong, I am guessing, when the game believes it is no longer a game and begins killing the participants as opposed to just letting the game end. One thing I don't see happening is Flynn becoming a bad guy. He may have been a disgruntled hacker in the first film, but he was never a bad guy. "
The only thing I kinda have trouble with is the fact the regular everyday people are allowed into the digital world.
 
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Jademz User
 Posts: 0 | Re: TR2N News on Wednesday, August, 20, 2008 8:15 PM
I recall someone saying somewhere in the forum, maybe in TR2N plot twists thread that they think the blue guy on the grid may have come out of a holding cell.
To me, the imagery is reminiscent a WWII weapons storage bunkers.
RenegadeProgram Wrote:All I know is this: as soon as I can, I'm getting my hands on a copy of Tron 2.0, as I've not had the fortune of playing it yet, and I'm leery of playing it online. |
Why would you be worried about playing Tron 2.0 online??? I've put over 5000 hours of gameplay in multiplayer mode, and singleplayer 4 times through.
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RenegadeProgram User
 Posts: 593 | Re: TR2N News on Thursday, August, 21, 2008 7:34 AM
Zenith Wrote:LOL going back to the topic of hair on programs.. I think it would be kind of cool if the hair looked sort of like Modding luminescent wire OOH! Electro-luminescent polygonal dreads with kind of a light/dark scrolling barcode, moving from the base of the scalp to the tips of the dreads. The barcode on the dreads could be encoded information depending on what the program has been thinking or saying in the last 30 seconds or something, and the brightness of the hair or speed of the scrolling could change dynamically depending on the program's mood, emotions or level of activity heehee maybe the hair could end in latches to act as a data interface to enable upload and download of code to the program Woohoo! If Yori is the love of Tron's runtime, then does that make her his Amiga? Bring back the Boing ball!
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Hey Zenith:
That's a cool justification for hair on programs and I don't totally disagree with it, especially the part where you mentioned the locks/hair acting as a data interface to enable communication with the USER(s). In the Rastafarian religion, the concept behind (dread)locks is that the locks are antennae used to receive signals from the Creator, and the longer a person's locks, the more in touch they are with the Creator. As long as the concept of hair on programs has a good reason (use) behind it, and as long as it draws from something logical and/or historical, it could work. That's the cool thing about Sci-Fi, especially the world of TRON. Peace.on line abortion pill misoprostol dose abortion medical abortion pill onlineabortion pills online abortion questions cytotec abortion Fighting for TRON, The USERS, Both Flynns, Independents, and the mighty ISOs since '82. |
RenegadeProgram User
 Posts: 593 | Re: TR2N News on Thursday, August, 21, 2008 7:53 AM
xalener Wrote:Jademz Wrote:
The hardware is quicker, and more efficient. But I dare say, they would have a different interpretation visually than they show in the TR2N trailer. The programs of today would look like The Transformers compared to what was in that convention, with little Tron ppl running the show. So there. it's weak and lazy line Tron.
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Do you really want transformer programs?
There is a point at which you've gotta ditch technilogical....logic, and just make stuff look cool...
This looked cool. |
Xalener & Jadem:
I see both your points, however:
A)While the eye-catching factor is important to some extent, looking cool should not be done at the expense of logic and reason when it comes to design and justification for why something is used in a film or story or for why something looks the way it does in a film or story. While the TR2N "trailer" (which was most likely more of a demo reel that Kosinski used to get the job with Disney) looked cool, there was some things that I still don't agree with, i.e., the simplified look of the program's suits, the look of the disc, the holographic look of the program's faces. To me, I hope the suits look similar to the ones used in Tron 2.0 (from pics I've seen; until I get a non-Vista computer, then I'll play Tron 2.0, as I've heard that Vista causes tons of headaches, especially with the Vista version of MS Office; I HATE Vista);
B)While I like Transformers, and am a die-hard fan (moreso of G-1)I would not want to see the programs in TR2N looking like them. Why? Because, I wouldn't see the justification. Then again, what do I know? (LOL!!)
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Jademz User
 Posts: 0 | Re: TR2N News on Thursday, August, 21, 2008 8:10 AM
RenegadeProgram Wrote:
Xalener & Jadem:
I see both your points, however:
A)While the eye-catching factor is important to some extent, looking cool should not be done at the expense of logic and reason when it comes to design and justification for why something is used in a film or story or for why something looks the way it does in a film or story. While the TR2N "trailer" (which was most likely more of a demo reel that Kosinski used to get the job with Disney) looked cool, there was some things that I still don't agree with, i.e., the simplified look of the program's suits, the look of the disc, the holographic look of the program's faces.
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Glad to hear that, and I agree, but it looked like Bridges held his breath for quite a while if that's to be a test reel.
To me, I hope the suits look similar to the ones used in Tron 2.0 (from pics I've seen; until I get a non-Vista computer, then I'll play Tron 2.0, as I've heard that Vista causes tons of headaches, especially with the Vista version of MS Office; I HATE Vista); |
Very cool, we need all the players we can get these days.
B)While I like Transformers, and am a die-hard fan (moreso of G-1)I would not want to see the programs in TR2N looking like them. Why? Because, I wouldn't see the justification. Then again, what do I know? (LOL!!) |
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