I'd be happy to work on this with the assistance of Redrain85. He might have to be the go between for us with Boxhat because I don't ever feel welcome there.

I'll do my best to help out in that regard DT, if you want to take another shot at it.

Though I don't see why more than one Tron-related site can't exist and have something to offer, Steve. Now, I'm not saying they should compete and keep the community fractured, as has been the case thus far . . . that's an area where things could clearly have gone better.

I've done it. I've personally offered my own materials from the film and the games and gotten little response. I still have lots of TRON 2.0 promo cards and a few lanyards and mini posters to offer, but nobody seemed to care so I stopped offering.

I'll take them all!

LOL, no. Kidding. It's better that they go to other people.

While new people are coming in, make the following as easy to access as possible - Playing online & building levels in the game. Are there existing tutorials on making levels in TRON v2.0? Make sure people know where they are. Include lots of pictures. Make it as low-tech as possible so people who are running "plain-jane" browsers can look at them, too.

Steve, I've already done that.

New TRON 2.0 Map-Making Video Tutorials
But I stopped making them, due to lack of interest. (At least, I never really heard from anyone who had watched them.)

Geez. Dude, I worked side by side with the numbskulls at BVG and they don't/won't/can't listen. I was actually there. My name is in the freaking credits of the game. I know BVG is a hopeless case. however, if you feel like trying again, knock yourself out.

DT knows better than anyone what we're up against . . . I only have a vague idea of what the climate is like at BVG. But I'll say one thing: I don't have any illusions about them caring one bit about us, unless we can prove there are big numbers (dollar signs) waiting for them, if they pick up on Tron again.

And so far, it's not really happening. But I haven't given up yet. Getting the word out to a significant audience is proving very difficult.

Because I can't believe there aren't thousands of Tron fans out there, that wouldn't kill to have more Tron games. Be it an expansion for Tron 2.0, or something new. I remember during the demo days for Tron 2.0, the servers were absolutely jam-packed!

Disney doesn't get TRON, and they don't know what to do with TRON, but they will never let anyone else take it away from them. It's locked up and unavailable even to Steven. He's frustrated that he can't take the story to the next level like he wants to. We've sat over many lunches and discussed his story ideas and it's a crime these aren't on a movie screen yet.

That's what's so insane about it. They don't know what to do with Tron, yet they cling to the property like their life depends on it. WTF? Do something with it! And make an effort next time!

Eventually, of course, this model will have to change. Specialized websites will emerge & the whatnot. It will take a lot of time, effort, organization & resources. It's by no means foolproof. No one person will be able to do this but a community of like-minded people will. In the end, it's up to us if we want to keep TRON v2.0 alive because, right now, we're the only ones who care about it. I'm game to try, but we'll need more than two of us.

DT is right . . . it will take more than just a few of us. I've been trying to motivate people to join the cause, but most just don't seem to care any more. (Present company in this thread excepted.) I see people who regularly play the game, that have yet to sign the petition. Probably because they think it's silly, or won't work. And that's precisely the attitude that BVG

TheReelTodd wrote: Signature 216 - confirmed, Alan 1!

This cracked me up! Thanks for the laugh.

PS: I think I already signed the petition and other email chains; long ago. UPDATE: I see it's a new one now. I'll take a look.

PPS: What about sending the petition over to the aint-it-cool-news.com guy for him to post a link to? He's a TRON fan and seems to get a lot of visitors. Maybe he could run a quick blurb on how he's frustrated Disney's not doing anything with Tron (still) and that Tron 2.0 was a cool game and that people should sign the petition; and that this might drum up support for a movie sequel Just a thought.

BTW, Xistence is still working on a project for the game after all this time . . . that I know will knock everyone's socks off. Just wait. If this project isn't news-worthy, then I don't know what is. It will still be a while before it comes out, though.

Music to my ears. I remember Xistence being totally into making Tron 2.0 MP levels. I wonder if he's doing a SP expansion? Well, whatever he's working on, it'll be great to see what he comes up with. He always did a great job. Unfortunately, I only had 56k modem at the time, so I never really got to do much more than see his maps.

I tried creating a couple maps... it was hard work. I would love to see the videos, DaveTRON, in case I get inspired to go back in and do more editing. I was trying to create a single-player level.

Doing a light cycle grid was much easier. I even made one that was just wide open, like the movie. Heh, I remember putting a little pixelated dude in the middle of the grid. Cracked myself up Ahh, good times. (I think it was the pixelated character you see in the game when Alan is talking to his son through the arcade game.)

PPPS: I should reinstall dEdit on my since-formatted hard drive and take a FRAPS video of the small room I made... or at least some screenshots. Really, it wasn't much; but when you make it yourself, it sure is neat to walk around in your own TRON room!

PPPPS: Signature #318. Confirm Alan-1!!!!

LOL, weird! Yeah, I just put Traahn for my name

Here is one way to get a video game some new news coverage.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/wire/sns-ap-skorea-game-death,0,5845845.story?coll=sns-ap-world-headlines
Carl

Oh that's mean DaveTron. I just checked my Email from two weeks to present, and saw this.

Vicente @BVG wrote: Thank you for writing. As of July 8, 2005; Tron 2.0.net (http://bvinteractive.go.com/tron/boards/splash.html) was taken down. The site is now being redirected to the Buena Vista Games product page for Tron 2.0 (http://buenavistagames.go.com/product/tronPC.html). We are sad about this but have left you all in very good hands: Fan sites such as (TRON 2.0 FAQ: http://livingdead.g2gm.net/tronfaq/) or (TRON SECTOR: http://www.tron-sector.com/) have an excellent fan base that bring you a vast array of tools (Mods, Maps and Skins), information that cannot be found anywhere else on the web. We thank all of you who monitored, participated and provided feedback to those that were in need. The official Tron 2.0 cumulative update patch can be found here: http://bvgsupport.go.com/techdocs/buenavista/homepage.do Click on Updates & Downloads. The unofficial update patch can be found through various fan sites. We apologize for the inconvenience.

I tried the link above, and it was blank.
But it was one step....

Maybe they have a postive response to me asking for the cumulative update again...

More importantly, they recognized LDSO's website. So there must have been some recognition. Good job Tronfaq, and DaveTron. Dont let up on the petition, I believe it will work.


If you need to play a game for 50 some, nearly consecutive hours, you might feel like you were going to have a heart attack anyway, isn't that news? To my recollection, these people all dring caffiene in dangerous dosages to stay alert enough to play. So, since caffeine is a vasoconstrictor, he may have had it coming.

Let's start a BVG sucks campaign! Oh, wait, I'm already on that one.

OK, then let's go for the positive approach, RESURRECT TRON 2.0!!!

C'mon, show of posts, who's with us? Really, c'mon people, let's try to do this.

their we go i signed it i am some where in the 300s

Traahn Wrote:I remember Xistence being totally into making Tron 2.0 MP levels. I wonder if he's doing a SP expansion? Well, whatever he's working on, it'll be great to see what he comes up with. He always did a great job. Unfortunately, I only had 56k modem at the time, so I never really got to do much more than see his maps.

Since Xistence recently announced his project publically, I thought I'd plug it for him here.

http://tronforum.boxhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1248
It is, indeed, a full Single Player expansion consisting of many levels. He's posted screenshots in that thread on Boxhat.

Now, it's not exactly a Tron-themed expansion. More like Tron-inspired. It doesn't feature any Tron characters or artwork. But just the same, there's no mistaking that it's clearly Tron-like.

I'm really looking forward to the finished product, and hoping I can maybe help him out a bit with the text translations to English.

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I see your point, but I think the community could have helped in a small way.

I agree on the price point too.

I still think if we'd gone with the original idea of creating a world you could live in and add games to that world every 6 months to a year that TRON would have found it's feet.

TRON is perfect for the concept of a perisistent world where games are only a part of it. I think people would have found it interesting if it were a bit more like EverQuest and less like a shooter.

Imagine though if the persistent world around the games allowed for you to choose what you wanted to play. A TRON Educational game, go to that sector. A TRON FPS, there's an arena for that. TRON RPG, it's there too. I think it could have been really cool to go that route.

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