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Actually a pretty good list. Great to see Tron score nice and high on the list. I agree with a good majority of the entries on the list, particularly when the context of how influential they were on the future of the industry is considered.

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Very cool to see TRON in the top 10 on the list. I might have bumped it up just a few higher, personally, but at least it was in the league with some of the better known films with groundbreaking (for their time) special effects.

I agree with the #1 slot though. Star Wars made quite an impression on me at a very young age... and did the same to most of the rest of the world. The visual effects in the film were outstanding for 70's technology and still hold up pretty well today IMO (the original version). So many different types/styles of effects were utilized in the film, from stop motion animation, to very realistic (for the time) matte effects and space battles, to 3D computer animation (the Death Star plans), to alien creatures, droids, and a plethora of really cool vehicles and ships. It's always a good day when I can use the word "plethora" in a sentence too.

After Star Wars, TRON came along and blew me away once again - taking me for a ride in to an amazing new place called cyberspace. The 3D animation, glowing circuitry effects, and concept just blew me away. Sadly, it did not to the same to the rest of the world like Star Wars did. As with Star Wars, it is amazing that they were able to pull off TRON's amazing visuals, given the technology available at the time. But thank God they did!

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TronFAQ Wrote:But, I'm sorry, The Matrix does not deserve as high a ranking as it got at number 3. No way. And Terminator 2 at 14?! Are you kidding me? These two movies should swap positions on the list.

Good point. I agree.

Terminator 2 was the first film I ever saw that had seemless special effects. There were no matte edges to be seen and no noticeable discoloration of the composited images. Before this, ALL composite shots in films had some kind of tell-tale signs. I used to get impressed when films hid them better or took the time to clean them up frame by frame (as was sometimes done by ILM in the 80's). But T2's visuals blended perfectly. A very good leap forward in special effects.

The Matrix was a cool film. I enjoyed it when I saw it in 1999. It didn't make a huge impression on me though, as it did to so many others. To me, it was just another cool sci-fi film with a pretty cool concept. I was surprised at the time to find people hailing it as they did Star Wars years earlier. As cool as the film was, I don't remember any visual effect standing out as amazingly new, cool, or groundbreaking. The bullet-time effects were not new, they had just not been featured in a film to that extent before. I saw similar effects at least a couple years prior in a music video (not as smoothly done, but very nice nonetheless). Yep, this one was a bit too high on the list.

TheReelTodd Wrote:Very cool to see TRON in the top 10 on the list. I might have bumped it up just a few higher, personally, but at least it was in the league with some of the better known films with groundbreaking (for their time) special effects. I agree with the #1 slot though. Star Wars made quite an impression on me at a very young age... and did the same to most of the rest of the world.

Definitely have to agree with you Todd.

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In place of The Matrix, I'd swap in Forbidden Planet. Way cooler special effects for its time, and I think a much more influential movie overall.

Also take into account how ahead the music was, not just the way it sounded, but how it was created. To construct Robby, they had to try new techniques which advanced prop making. Can't forget Robby is still what we hope to one day achive in real robotics.

MutoidMan Wrote: Mr. Sinistar Wrote:Awesome list! Thanks fro posting, guygg! I'm very happy to see TRON on there so high. I'm also very happy to see The Fifth Element on that list (even though it was last place ). I watched the Behind-the-Scene of The Fifth Element for the first time a couple of days ago and it was amazing how they recreated 23rd Century New York City mostly through minature! Waitaminute...how did they recreate 23rd century NYC? You mean to say they know for sure that NYC does look like that in the future? What, did Universal loan the people making The Fifth Element a certain De Lorean?

I almost literally ROFL'd after reading that. Man, I gotta check my grammar after typing my posts!

MutoidMan Wrote: TronFAQ Wrote:But, I'm sorry, The Matrix does not deserve as high a ranking as it got at number 3. No way. And Terminator 2 at 14?! Are you kidding me? These two movies should swap positions on the list. You're right about The Matrix not deserving to be at number 3. However, because the technology for the T-1000 special effects used in Terminator 2 was pioneered in The Abyss for the alien water probe, I'll settle for The Abyss at number 10. In place of The Matrix, I'd swap in Forbidden Planet. Way cooler special effects for its time, and I think a much more influential movie overall.

That's a no-brainer, really. The Matrix was good, but not "Star Wars" good. All it really did was popularized the "Bullet Time" cam. However, the Sentinel renders are very realisitic looking (to me anyway); but that still doesn't mean it deserve 3rd anyway. Terminator 2 was so awesome with the effects. The chrome on the T-1000, the atomic bomb sequence...I think Todd hit the nail on the head, when he said, "Terminator 2 was the first film I ever saw that had seemless special effects".

Sketch Wrote: In place of The Matrix, I'd swap in Forbidden Planet. Way cooler special effects for its time, and I think a much more influential movie overall. Also take into account how ahead the music was, not just the way it sounded, but how it was created. To construct Robby, they had to try new techniques which advanced prop making. Can't forget Robby is still what we hope to one day achive in real robotics.

Forbidden Planet's music is amazing to me, because it's sounds like a lot like a precursor to "Glitch" music, IMO, where people are circuit-bending and making circuits that make that glitchy-sounding muisc, which is similar to what Louis and Bebe Barron did in 1957 for the music.

The shots of the "Great Machine of the Krell" are some of my all-time favorite visual effects shots in movies. The amazing models, the special effects and the camera angles for those shots, when combined together, literally make your jaw drop to the ground.

EDIT: You posted before me, Traahn. LOL You made some good points about The Matrix though.

That is honestly one of the greatest movie lists I've ever seen. It makes enormous sense, being based on professionals' experienced observations, not rabid popularity. I do have a few quibbles, such as *Darby O'Gill* being among the top fifty. And I agree with others about *The Matrix,* which I think should be much lower. But most importantly:

Sketch Wrote: In place of The Matrix, I'd swap in Forbidden Planet. Way cooler special effects for its time, and I think a much more influential movie overall. Also take into account how ahead the music was, not just the way it sounded, but how it was created. To construct Robby, they had to try new techniques which advanced prop making. Can't forget Robby is still what we hope to one day achive in real robotics.

YES!!! *Forbidden Planet* is a classic for its (at the time) amazing visual effects and its pioneering sonics. George Lucas said that the energy room scene was in part an omage to the generator room scene, in which Dr. Morbius leads Adams and a couple others to some of the tools the Altairans used. The scene is teasingly short, but the seamless and perfectly shot "machinery" still amazes me, considering the relatively small budget of the film AND the state of visual FX at the time.on line abortion pill misoprostol dose abortion medical abortion pill online

Traahn Wrote:Forbidden Planet?? Don't think I've heard of it before...

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If you love Sci-Fi...YOU MUST GET FORBIDDEN PLANET!

'Nuff Said.