LWSrocks2 Wrote:Yeah. And I'm gonna be honest, as much as I was so "Oh they're definitely gonna do Tron 3" before, Its not looking so good. I mean, sure, Bruce said it was gonna happen in 2013. But I think that its all riding on the success of the TV show, and if that doesn't do well, they're not gonna go any further with the property. And if they do, it will probably aimed towards kids a little more, because, besides us, that's really their core audience.

This forum topic has a lot of speculation and conjecture -- people coming up with a lot of theories that are just that, theories -- and not AT ALL based on fact.

I like both "Avatar" and TRON: LEGACY -- and know many others who do as well... there's no "vs" mode going on between for which is better, etc... they're two RADICALLY different movies for that matter.

Disney HAS NOT "betrayed TRON" -- which is a pretty damn lame and mellow dramatic forum topic header -- especially for on a TRON site... jeez.

TRON 3 is happening -- and TRON: UPRISING will be a kick ass and welcome addition to the TRON Saga before it.

WorldOutWest Wrote: LWSrocks2 Wrote:Yeah. And I'm gonna be honest, as much as I was so "Oh they're definitely gonna do Tron 3" before, Its not looking so good. I mean, sure, Bruce said it was gonna happen in 2013. But I think that its all riding on the success of the TV show, and if that doesn't do well, they're not gonna go any further with the property. And if they do, it will probably aimed towards kids a little more, because, besides us, that's really their core audience. This forum topic has a lot of speculation and conjecture -- people coming up with a lot of theories that are just that, theories -- and not AT ALL based on fact. I like both "Avatar" and TRON: LEGACY -- and know many others who do as well... there's no "vs" mode going on between for which is better, etc... they're two RADICALLY different movies for that matter. Disney HAS NOT "betrayed TRON" -- which is a pretty damn lame and mellow dramatic forum topic header -- especially for on a TRON site... jeez. TRON 3 is happening -- and TRON: UPRISING will be a kick ass and welcome addition to the TRON Saga before it.

I apologize if this topic annoys you, i'm just disgusted becuase although to be honest i did enjoy both films, i feel TRON LEGACY didn't get the recognition it deserved. that Avatar stole TRON's thunder and it annoys me how everyone wants to ride the Avatar bandwagon and people shun TRON LEGACY. and this stunt that Disney just pulled seems a bit unfair.

There is no "official" rivalry between the films but it is similar to the whole Star Wars vs Star Trek type of debate among some fans.

There are some who enjoy both films and there are those who love one and hate the other.

if you ask film enthusiasts or just die hard fans of one or the other you'll see what I mean.

it's also sad how almost everyone knows what Avatar is but there are still plenty of people who go "wtf is Tron?"

AriesT Wrote:I'm sorry. You now proved that you do not have any idea of good movies. NOT AT ALL! Inception has no story? The characters are flat?? Did the whole world see a different movie than you did? I accept different opinions but if they are based on false facts, they do not make much sense. You are really the only one in this world who seems to hate a Christopher Nolan film. You really dismiss its great quality of Inception. Chapeau. I had to mention this, back to topic.

Actually, I'm not the only one who seems to dislike Inception and have seen the flaws of the story. But since you're saying that i do not have an idea on what makes a good movie. The film has no emotional ties and a bland plot disguised by the concept that Nolan used, which is an action movie trying to play as an intellectual movie. And in that regard, it failed. The lack of an emotional connection with the audience and the characters also didn't help out. The lack of a connection with the characters was so noticeably present, you couldn't care if Cobb got to see his kids, couldn't care if all of the characters fell into limbo and became lobotomized.

By the way, some of the best movies are always those that balance technology/style and story with characters you can care about. Citizen Kane, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, the original Star Wars and the original TRON are just a few I watched and know as good/excellent stories. Inception only worked in concept, it's story did not and Nolan tried to cover it up with visualization and fake intellect. And Nolan obviously knew the story was weak, as he made Memento and Insomnia, and they were both great and had solid stories . TRON: Legacy failed to have explained the whole ISO thing, but the story was about Sam and Kevin Flynn, about a boy who lost and found his father. THAT is the kind of emotional connection that everyone has had a father, has had a fear of losing their father or have grown up without a father and have longed for it. For the original TRON, the same is true, as the story was about opposing those who do wrong (Kevin Flynn helps Alan so to right the wrong against him. TRON fights the MCP and his army so he could free the system, again he righted a wrong). The emotional connections in both of those films weren't even forced like it was in Inception.

You sir may say I have no idea what makes up a good movie, but I have a better sense of storytelling than you do. And any writer would tell you that Inception fails as a story because the lack of emotional connection to the characters that the audience could relate to and tried to cover it up with hype. And those who find the film to be "awesome" were razzle-dazzled by the visuals to the point where they didn't realize the lack of solid story and weak characters, just like with Avatar.

Now, back on topic:

Again, as a Floridan, the last thing we need down here is Avatar. Give me a TRON world over "Smurfs in Space" any day.

Kat Wrote:Didn't Avatar come out way before T:L???

Yup. 2009 for "smurfs in space" and 2010 for Legacy.

Vaporware Wrote:I'm surprised that we are still on this topic.

Why do you say that?

CB2001 Wrote: Kat Wrote:Didn't Avatar come out way before T:L??? What does the release date have to do with it?

Because how did Avatar "steal T:L's thunder" as everyone is insisting it did, if it came out a year prior?

LOL at whoever said Inception was a 'bad' movie and that the 'connection' between Sam and Kevin Flynn was fantastic. Yeah, a father and son's relationship. I heard T:L won the award for most original concept with that one.

october_midnight Wrote:LOL at whoever said Inception was a 'bad' movie and that the 'connection' between Sam and Kevin Flynn was fantastic. Yeah, a father and son's relationship. I heard T:L won the award for most original concept with that one.

Ah, that one's high on the "most disputed" list around here. (Personally I say no way Jose, but some folks think it was great.)order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill

What?? Just because someone is right does not mean he / she does not like T:L. Legacy totally was style over story and the director could not close the gap between LOST-author rubbish and the essential basic father-and-son story. Come on, the sequences with Garett and Jeff neither were emotional... nor realistic after 20 / 5000 years of separation.

Everyone has his / her opinion and everyone should express it. If you do not get this, why do YOU not leave this board? Telling other people to leave a board or an area just because they express justified criticism is bad ... VERY bad behaviour.
This is Kindergarten talk.

Please do not dig out the "but you said he does not have any idea of movies" phrase. This was just an indirect question and never meant not be rude.

And still 2.8 billion vs. 402 million dollars is a huge difference. I can understand Disney. On the other hand I expect them to build a permanent TRON section or attraction or coaster in their parks in like 4-5 years if Uprising is a good run and TRON 3 can give us the story we expected for Legacy.