Kat User
Posts: 2,394 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Sunday, April, 10, 2011 4:01 AM
Vash15 Wrote:Eh, i don't want to see Tron tech in the real world. I just want more of the grid, and more of Tron himself |
Exactly.
I mean, really, what could Lora and Alan have been doing that was that interesting, considering they didn't know what was going on with Flynn? They were probably sitting around drinking coffee, or making out in the supply closet, or organizing some paperwork, or something. The action was in the mainframe...what would be the point of also adding some frantic chase scene in the real world? What do you want? I'm busy.
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Posts: 115 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Sunday, April, 10, 2011 2:11 PM
jonwes Wrote:I don't know...
Honestly, I want to see MORE of the digital world and explore it in more depth. I don't want to see more of Tron stuff in the real world. It could be interesting, depending on how it is written. |
I strongly echo that sentiment. I want the grid. The 'other world'. I see enough of the real world everyday. I want to hear 'greetings programs!'. Not 'greetings neighbors!'. lol. I think it would be a serious error to focus on the real world in a Tron 3. Tron (IMHO) was, is and always will be about the grid and inside the computer.
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Posts: 2,394 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Sunday, April, 10, 2011 2:45 PM
SectorCruiser Wrote: Not 'greetings neighbors!'. lol. |
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aldul User
Posts: 194 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Monday, April, 11, 2011 5:25 PM
I'll buy the premise of matter being digitized to get stuff into the electronic world, but I have a problem with stuff going in the other direction.
Does Quorra suddenly have organs and need to eat carbon based food and breathe with lungs and use the restroom like the rest of us pieces of meat? Why? None of that is needed in the eworld. Even if ISOs were born with DNA, why would it pretty much match ours if it arose in a world/universe/dimension with no matter? I know Flynn said our worlds were more alike than anyone had thought, but come on.
I'd also like to see more of the electronic world. The Dillingers trying to take over the world. Lots of users going in there across dozens of systems. Insane vehicles. Epic disc battles. Unless you plan on making even MORE of these films, just throw the kitchen sink in.
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KiaPurity User
Posts: 3,488 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Monday, April, 11, 2011 8:20 PM
I'm echoing this too:
THE GRID! THE GRID! THE GRID!
Because seriously? Real world? No. Just no.
I watch the Tron movies and play the Tron games because I WANT to be on the grid.
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Argent User
Posts: 274 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Monday, April, 11, 2011 8:53 PM
Please no.
I still think showing one Program in the real world was a mistake. If they absolutely had do it, it should have been saved for the end of the last-ever Tron movie, something to end the series - 'And then Programs came into the real world, and life as we knew it changed forever' - leaving that future to the viewer to imagine.
What's done is done now, but I still feel it was a misstep. Trying to build on that particular plot point would make matters worse. You'll end up with a Matrix clone, just built on much shakier pseudoscience. I don't want to see lightcycles outrunning police cars on real-world highways or soldiers battling Black Guards at a mall or whatever. Take me back to the Grid, or at least a Grid - it doesn't have to be Flynn's system, but the bulk of the movie should take place within a computer somewhere, with the real-world stuff bookending it.
Just one fan's opinion.
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JInfantry23 User
Posts: 99 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Monday, April, 11, 2011 8:55 PM
We read Batman comics to see Batman, not Bruce Wayne
We go to Jimmy Buffet concerts to hear "Margaritaville", not "Cheeseburger in Paradise"
We go see Tron movies to see the Grid, not Encom.
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Kat User
Posts: 2,394 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Monday, April, 11, 2011 9:37 PM
Argent Wrote: soldiers battling Black Guards at a mall
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LOL, why did I think of the mall scene in Bill and Ted? What do you want? I'm busy.
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ShadowDragon1 User
Posts: 2,056 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Monday, April, 11, 2011 10:04 PM
He's only saying he like the idea and touching upon the idea of how things in the Grid could influence the real world to cetain degree. He's not literally implying that he's going to bring everything from the The Grid/cyberspace into the "real world".
For example. Say a person writes a computer routine for repairing or adjusting DNA/RNA/Genes while in digital form, and then translating that into repaired or
adjusted DNA/RNA/Genes in a person in the "real world". Cancer and HIV could conceivably be erradicated. Another possiblitiy is digital cloning, a User is digitized and the system makes a copy of that persons DNA structure, and from that replacement organs and/or skin tissue can be materialized using extra matter stored in the matter containment units. Instead of organic growing of cloned organs, a modified Shiva laser could materialized a replacement organ. Just a couple possibilties.
That's the kind of things I think he refering to. Blurring things *in-a-sense.* Like more to do with related concepts and interactions of energy and technology and the co-relation to things in the real world.
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Posts: 1,178 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Monday, April, 11, 2011 10:57 PM
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JInfantry23 User
Posts: 99 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Monday, April, 11, 2011 11:52 PM
IluthraDanar Wrote:I just want to know, is Quorra human now? A program with human affectations, but still a program? Or a human with special powers? |
I believe Quorra is not human.
She wasn't born, she didn't evolve, she just sort of happened by way of miracle.
Factor in that she is an ISO, a being who was able to regrow an arm after the original was de-rezzed; that Kevin said the secrets contained in the digitial root code could re-write all of humanity... and it appears Quorra is something more than human.
Even after escaping the Grid, her uniqueness is maintained, or else why would have Kev bothered to save her?
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IluthraDanar User
Posts: 1,178 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Tuesday, April, 12, 2011 12:57 AM
JInfantry23 Wrote:IluthraDanar Wrote:I just want to know, is Quorra human now? A program with human affectations, but still a program? Or a human with special powers? |
I believe Quorra is not human.
She wasn't born, she didn't evolve, she just sort of happened by way of miracle.
Factor in that she is an ISO, a being who was able to regrow an arm after the original was de-rezzed; that Kevin said the secrets contained in the digitial root code could re-write all of humanity... and it appears Quorra is something more than human.
Even after escaping the Grid, her uniqueness is maintained, or else why would have Kev bothered to save her? |
Some people seem to think since she entered into the real world, she became human. But would she have a belly button?Fingerprints? Would be fun ID-ing her for legalities and all.
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ShadowDragon1 User
Posts: 2,056 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Tuesday, April, 12, 2011 1:34 AM
Quorra is not a typcial human, but "humanoid".
She probably has a unique genetic make-up, like possibly a triple-helix DNA (in the Grid her digital DNA was Triple Helix), maybe with the potential to trigger self-repair genetic processes.... which could have very beneficial medical applications. where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill onlineabortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion
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CB2001 User
Posts: 549 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Tuesday, April, 12, 2011 2:50 AM
Honestly, since the Dillenger Snr. has a company, I wouldn't be surprised if him and Dillenger Jr. actually launch an attack on Encom both in the real world and in the digital world (meaning in the real world, there's, literally, a hostile take over while in the computer system, Dillenger Snr. somehow digitizes and sends in several of his own goons to take over). I think it'd be interesting to see the situation jumping back and forth between the real world and digital world (kinda like how it was in the TRON 2.0 game), basically having a User in the system fighting off the attack within with a little bit of help from those on the outside world (seriously, think of the scene where TRON is at the I/O tower and is communicating with Alan. We see TRON's side of the communication, but can you imagine seeing what Alan's side was like? Him possibly on the verge of glee seeing that he's gotten to communicate with his program, inputting the data it needs to shutdown the system before sending TRON on his way. I'd definitely puts a different view on things).
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Kat User
Posts: 2,394 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Tuesday, April, 12, 2011 7:29 AM
CB2001 Wrote:Honestly, since the Dillenger Snr. has a company, I wouldn't be surprised if him and Dillenger Jr. actually launch an attack on Encom both in the real world and in the digital world (meaning in the real world, there's, literally, a hostile take over while in the computer system, Dillenger Snr. somehow digitizes and sends in several of his own goons to take over). I think it'd be interesting to see the situation jumping back and forth between the real world and digital world (kinda like how it was in the TRON 2.0 game), basically having a User in the system fighting off the attack within with a little bit of help from those on the outside world (seriously, think of the scene where TRON is at the I/O tower and is communicating with Alan. We see TRON's side of the communication, but can you imagine seeing what Alan's side was like? Him possibly on the verge of glee seeing that he's gotten to communicate with his program, inputting the data it needs to shutdown the system before sending TRON on his way. I'd definitely puts a different view on things). |
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Posts: 549 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Tuesday, April, 12, 2011 1:23 PM
Kat Wrote:CB2001 Wrote:Honestly, since the Dillenger Snr. has a company, I wouldn't be surprised if him and Dillenger Jr. actually launch an attack on Encom both in the real world and in the digital world (meaning in the real world, there's, literally, a hostile take over while in the computer system, Dillenger Snr. somehow digitizes and sends in several of his own goons to take over). I think it'd be interesting to see the situation jumping back and forth between the real world and digital world (kinda like how it was in the TRON 2.0 game), basically having a User in the system fighting off the attack within with a little bit of help from those on the outside world (seriously, think of the scene where TRON is at the I/O tower and is communicating with Alan. We see TRON's side of the communication, but can you imagine seeing what Alan's side was like? Him possibly on the verge of glee seeing that he's gotten to communicate with his program, inputting the data it needs to shutdown the system before sending TRON on his way. I'd definitely puts a different view on things). | How could they do a hostile takeover if Sam holds most of the stock? |
Did you not pay attention to "The Next Day: Flynn Lives Revealed"? Due to Dillenger Systems becoming Encom's rival (which resulted in them taking the company "in a different direction", which lead to the firing of several employees), and due to Sam releasing Encom OS/12 (which, from the first time I saw the film, gave me the sense that it was going to set the company back because they were really needed revenue. And according to the Encom's company's employee server, someone in their financial department wasn't really honest. You get the idea), there is the possibility that the company is in financial distress. Even with Sam being the major shareholder, doesn't mean that a hostile takeover isn't possible.
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Posts: 54 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Tuesday, April, 12, 2011 3:14 PM
I'm also in the camp of wanting more of the digital world. It's really only been explored to a limited degree in both movies. In the first, technology limited the scope. In the second, it was a limited development system that Flynn intentionally designed as limited.
The idea of exploring digital entities in the real world can be a side thing but I'd rather not focus on the outside world. That's really not what Tron is about.
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Argent User
Posts: 274 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Tuesday, April, 12, 2011 6:46 PM
ShadowDragon1 Wrote:I *highly* doubt he's going to have literal Light Cycles and Recognizers be materialized and traveling around in the "real world".... *sigh* |
You know, I told myself the same thing when I saw the trailers for Legacy. Then I saw the movie, and it turned out that materializing light cycles and recognizers in the real world was Clu's plan in a nutshell. So I can't share your confidence. : /
At the very least, it doesn't hurt for fans to say, 'Hey, that would be a bad idea' before they produce the next movie - if the powers-that-be actually are considering something along those lines, now's the time to let them know that it's not what we'd like to see in a sequel.
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ShadowDragon1 User
Posts: 2,056 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Tuesday, April, 12, 2011 6:56 PM
It was only assumed Clu could materialize his ships and his entire army in the "real world" doesn't mean it would actually work.
1) The Shiva system doesn't have the power to do that, it'd have to siphon power from the whole city's power grid (and more probably even needing a nuclear reactor) and
2) it would have to "eat up"/digitize enough raw matter to even attempt it.
~ The Shiva systems matter containers have finite space and could not contain all the neccessary matter needed, even in molecular form.
3) The Grid vehicles and weapons don't quite operate on the same physics as "real world" machines and would be inoperative if even just one ship was materialized.
Clu's "plan" was based on his very limited understanding of what he *thought* and assumed, while he himself would/could of made it over, I highly doubt any of the other stuff would make it all for the reasons I've mentioned.
Flynn assumed Clu " found a way to do it", but that also doesn't mean it would actually work, Sam just assumed that Clu "could take it all with him". Their subjective assumptions do not equel "facts" of what would really happen.
I think part of CLU's plan was to make a connection between The Grid and the digital systems across the Earth and send his forces out via digital networks.
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Kat User
Posts: 2,394 | RE: Joseph talks planned Tron 3 on Tuesday, April, 12, 2011 8:02 PM
CB2001 Wrote:Kat Wrote:CB2001 Wrote:Honestly, since the Dillenger Snr. has a company, I wouldn't be surprised if him and Dillenger Jr. actually launch an attack on Encom both in the real world and in the digital world (meaning in the real world, there's, literally, a hostile take over while in the computer system, Dillenger Snr. somehow digitizes and sends in several of his own goons to take over). I think it'd be interesting to see the situation jumping back and forth between the real world and digital world (kinda like how it was in the TRON 2.0 game), basically having a User in the system fighting off the attack within with a little bit of help from those on the outside world (seriously, think of the scene where TRON is at the I/O tower and is communicating with Alan. We see TRON's side of the communication, but can you imagine seeing what Alan's side was like? Him possibly on the verge of glee seeing that he's gotten to communicate with his program, inputting the data it needs to shutdown the system before sending TRON on his way. I'd definitely puts a different view on things). | How could they do a hostile takeover if Sam holds most of the stock? |
Did you not pay attention to "The Next Day: Flynn Lives Revealed"? Due to Dillenger Systems becoming Encom's rival (which resulted in them taking the company "in a different direction", which lead to the firing of several employees), and due to Sam releasing Encom OS/12 (which, from the first time I saw the film, gave me the sense that it was going to set the company back because they were really needed revenue. And according to the Encom's company's employee server, someone in their financial department wasn't really honest. You get the idea), there is the possibility that the company is in financial distress. Even with Sam being the major shareholder, doesn't mean that a hostile takeover isn't possible.
Not to mention, with Dillenger, Jr. being on the inside of the company, he can cause havoc to make the financial hardship on Encom even more harder enough for there to be the prelude of a hostile takeover. |
I didn't watch the clip at all because the sound on my machine is shit. Sorry for not being "superfan" enough for you.
I had understood that for a corporation to be bought, stock had to be bought. What do you want? I'm busy.
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