Mostly agreed.

Tron's reboot in the Sea of Simulation was a slam dunk tease for (another?) sequel.

As for Kevin Flynn having a backup: even if he didn't, Sam and Quorra return with his disc. If he can repair damaged code/DNA for Quorra, what could be lacking on his disc that a ridiculous plot device couldn't overcome? Human form in digital space/digital form in human space? Star Wars had jedi ghosts, why not ghosts in the machine?

I think a larger obstacle for Kevin's reappearance could be Jeff Bridges. I haven't followed his statements, if any, regarding returning to the franchise... again.

How about an AI robot wearing a users disc? Artificial immortality sprung from the human well. Consciousness transference. Off topic, but interesting.abortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion

The way my daughters and I have been playing with the figures is that Flynn was rebuilt using his disc as the new command.com for the grid on the encom computers. He is now a program with a users abilities. Alive in the grid but unable to leave since his death.order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill

Tron, I am 99.9% certain lives. Flynn is scattered "fragmented" data, and with modern software it CAN be recompiled and restored whole. So I think the code making up Flynn is still "in The Grid" and can be recompiled and restored whole. Would just need the access the Flynn Master Key software, and for the system to digitize several blocks of raw matter for the containment capsules...

typicaltronname Wrote:I agree. Tron and Kevin did survive, in my opinion. How they know that Kevin would die in the integration, I don't know. He said he would, she said he would, but in the end no one really knows. It's not like there was the experience of another User who re-integrated himself to his program and died. Kevin was the first to do that. I don't know what the big deal with that was. In the first movie, Flynn just had to punch a program out and the program would derezz.

Y'know, I have a theory on that. In T:L, they show Flynn creating Clu from *inside* the grid. I don't know if that's just supposed to be a visual allegory for him sitting in the real world typing up code, or was it truly meant to represent a different way of creating a program? Someone else mentioned in another thread something about perhaps Flynn would be destroyed upon reintegration because he put a part of himself into Clu....so perhaps that scene showed a split of Flynn where part of him went into creating Clu, instead of the more impersonal method of just sitting at a terminal typing?

Kat Wrote:Y'know, I have a theory on that. In T:L, they show Flynn creating Clu from *inside* the grid. I don't know if that's just supposed to be a visual allegory for him sitting in the real world typing up code, or was it truly meant to represent a different way of creating a program? Someone else mentioned in another thread something about perhaps Flynn would be destroyed upon reintegration because he put a part of himself into Clu....so perhaps that scene showed a split of Flynn where part of him went into creating Clu, instead of the more impersonal method of just sitting at a terminal typing?

That's what I'm thinking. I'm fairly certain the Clu creation scene in the movie was a literal flashback to how Clu was actually created. Instead of typing at a terminal with a monitor in the real world, Kevin actually went inside and made Clu from the Grid itself. That was really unique, and is undoubtedly why Clu had to be re-integrated as opposed to just deleted. First of all, he was the Grid's system administrator, and second of all, he was forever tied to Flynn via that single act of creation those many cycles before.order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill

Mayorcan Wrote: Kat Wrote:Y'know, I have a theory on that. In T:L, they show Flynn creating Clu from *inside* the grid. I don't know if that's just supposed to be a visual allegory for him sitting in the real world typing up code, or was it truly meant to represent a different way of creating a program? Someone else mentioned in another thread something about perhaps Flynn would be destroyed upon reintegration because he put a part of himself into Clu....so perhaps that scene showed a split of Flynn where part of him went into creating Clu, instead of the more impersonal method of just sitting at a terminal typing? That's what I'm thinking. I'm fairly certain the Clu creation scene in the movie was a literal flashback to how Clu was actually created. Instead of typing at a terminal with a monitor in the real world, Kevin actually went inside and made Clu from the Grid itself. That was really unique, and is undoubtedly why Clu had to be re-integrated as opposed to just deleted. First of all, he was the Grid's system administrator, and second of all, he was forever tied to Flynn via that single act of creation those many cycles before.

In a comic, it showed Flynn writing a program but in the flashback, he did something on the Grid that could have destroyed it if anything had gone wrong. I took that to mean Clu was created on the Grid as shown.
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Interesting thought only slightly related to this thread:

It occurred to me that there may be a bit of religious reference in the Rinzler/Tron thing.

Rinzler reverts to Tron.... but his circuitry doesn't change back until he falls into the Sea of Simulation. It could be intentional that he is not fully redeemed until he sacrifices himself. (From a practical standpoint, no doubt it was done because a change of circuitry color at the point he actually reverts would give it away too quickly-- we're not meant to know until he pulls up, and then Clu says "finish the game!" and Tron says "I fight for the users!" But there could've been a deeper intent to it than that as well.) The idea of self-sacrifice is all over maaaany religions, of course

Flynn & Tron both, really-- whoever wants to save his life will lose it, and whoever gives up his life will save it. (paraphrase) You could say that Flynn lived a pretty empty existence just trying to preserve his own life-- then Sam shows up and Flynn has to act, which is far more true to the Flynn we know in OT. Flynn may die (if he does), but he's being true to himself and actually living, finally (like my Beat of Your Heart story: time to reclaim Kevin Flynn.) Tronzler probably isn't actively making the decision to remain the way he is, but once he does remember who he is and does the right thing, he's fully redeemed.)

Not, perhaps, ideal-- you finally come to yourself and then die for it (maybe)-- but is it better to live and be empty, or die knowing you really lived? How "safe" is "too safe"?

I think Flynn lives, and so does Rinz...err.. Tron! However, if Flynn lives, does that make our emotions felt for his climactic loss in Tron Legacy all for naught? Thereby making Tron Legacy less watchable since we know he actually lives in Tr3n? T:L thunder stolen.

Again, I hope he gets recompiled/revived (both in the computer and the real world), but I'm just sayin'...

PS: Sam losing his mom and his dad? Not cool. Oh, and it's been a while since I watched, but didn't his grandparents pass away, too? Yikes. Poor guy.

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