anonymous User
Posts: 6 | Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Thursday, December, 23, 2010 10:21 AM
One thing that I didnt get.... lets say the Flynn's died and no one stopped CLU....and he took his big ole battleship through the portal........Im guessing that things like a mile long and 1/2 mile wide carrying a few thousand army guys....
and how exactly would all of that have fit into the secret Flynn room in the arcade??
Movie "Truths" to back up confusion:
1.) when you go back into the real world the laser points you back in the chair at Flynn's desk
2.) I am unfamiliar with how the laser works but i remember reading about Carbon CO2 hydrogen bottles that are hooked to it that turn the computer coded DNA to carbon life forms....and i can only imagine so many items being made into real life...so a half army?? i dont think so...not without an unlimited supply
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Posts: 234 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Thursday, December, 23, 2010 10:45 AM
CLU's whole secret project was driven by his desperation to escape the grid. Neither him nor Flynn were certain that a program could in fact enter reality from cyberspace -- it was merely a strong, suggested theory. Given CLU's mania, he latched onto the theory and it became his obsession. So whether or not it would have worked is kind of moot, because CLU was determined to find out at all costs, and Flynn was determined to prevent CLU at all costs. Each of them relying on theory -- and potential consequences -- to drive them.abortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion
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Posts: 580 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Thursday, December, 23, 2010 11:01 AM
I suppose Clu really could not have known the limits of the process going back. Kevin knew but even the thought of Clu going back was enough to horrify him. And really, there's no reason that once Clu was back he couldn't have marshalled the resources to bring the carrier over once he realized it couldn't come over right away. Especially since he looked like a magically de-aged Kevin Flynn! The fountain of youth is at our fingertips! Just throw all available resources at this little project Encom...
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anonymous User
Posts: 6 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Thursday, December, 23, 2010 11:25 AM
good points....
but him having Flynn's disk he would be able to read his history and see him go back to the chair multiple times. then again maybe it was too much info to read in one setting??
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Sark_2.0 User
Posts: 33 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Thursday, December, 23, 2010 11:28 AM
Honestly, I'm still trying to figure out how they could exist physically within the real world. I posted a thread about this in regards to another major character as well. I'm thinking I missed some dialogue that explained what would make all of this viable. At least, I hope I did, otherwise it's a pretty big plot hole.
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Wugmanmax User
Posts: 131 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Thursday, December, 23, 2010 11:33 AM
I'm pretty sure Clu would be planning to have just gone back by himself the first time, or perhaps sent a scout, like Rinzler. When things got crazy, he would have tried himself perhaps out of desperation... But the plan was to see if it was possible first, and then bring the army through. I'm going to have to watch it again to catch more of the "plan".
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anonymous User
Posts: 6 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Thursday, December, 23, 2010 1:11 PM
if that was the case....then he should have just flow straight to the portal when he had the disk..but instead he went and gathered all the troops
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Pilgrim1099 User
Posts: 606 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Thursday, December, 23, 2010 1:17 PM
Tron Unit Wrote:Yeah it would be like the Masters of the Universe movie when Skeletor and his army come through the portal. Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssse. |
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Carcarius User
Posts: 89 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Thursday, December, 23, 2010 1:20 PM
Dont you guys think that a bunch of cyber goons with nothing more than disks and batons would get dumped on by our Military? It would seem unlikely that CLU could take over the world.
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anonymous User
Posts: 6 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Thursday, December, 23, 2010 1:21 PM
well, keep in mind when they transfer in they dont have any sort of powers or light weapons.
so im not sure how that would work. I guess Encom would fund them?
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ChessMess User
Posts: 443 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Thursday, December, 23, 2010 1:27 PM
I wonder if CLU would have been able to attack the real world by being a master Hacker. Could he have written software programs faster and more powerful then a real world programmer? He could have taken over the world by taking over the entire Internet architecture and everything that relies on networked computers.
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anonymous User
Posts: 6 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Thursday, December, 23, 2010 1:32 PM
good point....but his skill set is based off the 1980's Flynn....and even Flynn was a super hacker but in todays realm maybe not.
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Posts: 234 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Thursday, December, 23, 2010 1:35 PM
Carcarius Wrote:Dont you guys think that a bunch of cyber goons with nothing more than disks and batons would get dumped on by our Military? It would seem unlikely that CLU could take over the world. |
That was part of Clu's programmerly naivete: he had no clue (no pun) how the Real World works, just hints. In maniacally straightforward fashion he presumed that ruling the Real World would be as easy as ruling The Grid. Of course, Kevin Flynn could have just let Clu go try and fail, then laugh about it. But I think Flynn didn't want to take the chance because he knew Clu was as smart and creative as he was, plus the maniacal factor, so Flynn didn't want to take the chance.
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Posts: 1,025 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Thursday, December, 23, 2010 1:37 PM
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Posts: 234 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Thursday, December, 23, 2010 1:38 PM
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Posts: 234 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Thursday, December, 23, 2010 1:41 PM
Tron Unit Wrote:The Encom board would be shocked that he hadn't aged. "What Botox clinic do you go to?" |
Laser Botox, of course!
And yes, they would be shocked. But assuming someone submitted him for DNA testing, would Clu show positive as Kevin Flynn?
Seems to me the Clu-as-Flynn-as-ENCOM-ruler route is Clu's only real hope for carrying out his plan. And even then it's shaky.
As to how or why he needed a digital army to come with him... ??? |
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Posts: 131 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Sunday, December, 26, 2010 4:17 PM
I had read some commentary that likened Clu to "Lucifer" in that he wanted to "Ascend to the heavens" and "be like the Most High". The commentary I read said that Clu's plan in the context of the movie was actually feasible, while Lucifer's plan was not and he was a madman for thinking so.
In the light of this discussion, I propose that Clu is a madman for thinking so. If all went as he planned, he would have made it through the portal with his minions and been subsequently slaughtered. He was the master of his world, but that was it. Did Kevin know this? Possibly. At the end he sacrificed himself not to keep Clu out of the "Real world", but to allow Sam and Quorra to get out. That was his chief concern, that Sam was going to be trapped like he was.order abortion pill http://unclejohnsprojects.com/template/default.aspx?morning-after-pill-price where to buy abortion pill
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Posts: 92 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Sunday, December, 26, 2010 4:21 PM
Wugmanmax Wrote:I had read some commentary that likened Clu to "Lucifer" in that he wanted to "Ascend to the heavens" and "be like the Most High". The commentary I read said that Clu's plan in the context of the movie was actually feasible, while Lucifer's plan was not and he was a madman for thinking so.
In the light of this discussion, I propose that Clu is a madman for thinking so. If all went as he planned, he would have made it through the portal with his minions and been subsequently slaughtered. He was the master of his world, but that was it. Did Kevin know this? Possibly. At the end he sacrificed himself not to keep Clu out of the "Real world", but to allow Sam and Quorra to get out. That was his chief concern, that Sam was going to be trapped like he was. |
Maybe Clu and his minions wouldn't have been slaughtered. Who knows what kind of abilities they would have in the real world? Perhaps they could have tapped into computer systems worldwide and wreaked havoc that way!
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doctorclu User
Posts: 206 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Sunday, December, 26, 2010 5:38 PM
I think Clu, being like Flynn, would have eventually adapted to the real world just like he had adapted and eventually overcome the virtual world.
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PunkMaister User
Posts: 34 | RE: Spoiler: So what was CLU's plan if he was able to follow it out? Makes no sense on Sunday, December, 26, 2010 7:33 PM
doctorclu Wrote:I think Clu, being like Flynn, would have eventually adapted to the real world just like he had adapted and eventually overcome the virtual world. |
He wasn't though he may have looked like Flynn but being just a BASIC type program as opposed to a self learning ISOMORPHIC one like Quorra is means he could not overcome the limits of his programing, hence he was programed to create a perfect world because Flynn at the time thought that was what was important until he discovered the ISOS and that they were things greater than himself in the universe. Clu 2 could not cope nor comprehend his creator's change of attitude, that's why he staged the Coupe and went mad trying to bring perfection not just into the digital world but to extend his plans into ours at any cost. He would have not being able to take that thing out but probably some would have made it through, from then on he could have used 3D printing and built more digitizing lasers to bring even more, what would come out of that is a world enslaved by machines just like the Matrix...
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