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simbeau
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RE: TRON: LEGACY - Box Office & Fan Reaction

on Tuesday, February, 01, 2011 12:26 PM
flynn2000 Wrote:
AriesT Wrote:
Too bad the film is not announced for China so far. This country could push Legacy way above 400 mn.




It came out in China a week or two ago.

As of a week ago the numbers out of China said about 10.5 million USD.


 
OscarGungan
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RE: TRON: LEGACY - Box Office & Fan Reaction

on Tuesday, February, 01, 2011 12:55 PM
I'm curious if my theory about the second run theaters has any merit. This weekend in my area Tron is leaving the first run theaters and moving into the second run theaters. The second run theater where I live is showing it in 3D and tickets are five bucks. I'm planning to take anyone left in my family who hasn't seen it yet. Because alot of the second run theaters I have seen cater to families maybe they can sell enough tickets to give it a little bump this weekend.


 
OscarGungan
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on Tuesday, February, 01, 2011 1:10 PM
I don't know what will happen. I just noticed Yogi Bear got a bump about the time it moved into the second run theaters. I'm guessing Tron:Legacy will play at some of these theaters up until the home video release. If my theory is right, It could pass $180 million. Has anyone done much research on what second run theaters bring to the table. My guess is certain films do better than others. The ones were I live hardly ever show R-rated films so they are geared more toward films anyone would go to.abortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion


 
AriesT
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RE: TRON: LEGACY - Box Office & Fan Reaction

on Tuesday, February, 01, 2011 3:18 PM
Jalen Wrote:We now less than 10 million away from reaching the final WW box office tally for Batman Begins, and 23 million away from reaching the final WW box office tally for Star Trek (2009). By next week it will have exceeded Batman Begins and will be well on it's way to outgrossing Star Trek.

Both of the above mentioned films had production budgets only 20 million less than Tron Legacy, if you count the $170m reported budget from BoxOfficeMojo (someone on this site says that the director mentioned it was actually $150m, the same as the above two titles).

Another thing is, the above two titles probably haven't made anywhere NEAR as much as Tron Legacy has in merchandising.

I know the marketing budget was about $120m, but still....

...how could Disney possibly NOT be happy with these numbers? They're fantastic!

Well it is easy:
They wanted Legacy to pass the 500 million $ worldwide. The 3D price bump did not match with their expectations. Though TRON is a small - if even known - franchise and did only slightly better than highly disappointing Prince of Persia (only 2D).
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OscarGungan
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RE: TRON: LEGACY - Box Office & Fan Reaction

on Tuesday, February, 01, 2011 3:52 PM
I don't know if that is a totally fair comparison. Prince of Persia is listed as having a $200 million budget and only had a domestic take of $90 million. Somehow internationally it did better which brought its WW total to $335 million. I would think when Tron:Legacy is done it will have surpassed $400 million.


 
flynn2000
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on Tuesday, February, 01, 2011 4:58 PM
No one knows what Disney wanted it to make, except for the big shots at Disney, and none of them are here.

Very few movies make 500 million and thinking that Disney would only be happy with Tron breaking that is...unrealistic. Tron: Legacy might beat Star Trek for world gross and Paramount was thrilled with its movies take, green lighting a sequel immediately.

I don't think a sequel to Tron: Legacy is a given just yet, but everything looks good for it.

Time will tell.

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flynn2000
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RE: TRON: LEGACY - Box Office & Fan Reaction

on Tuesday, February, 01, 2011 5:17 PM
OscarGungan Wrote:I don't know if that is a totally fair comparison. Prince of Persia is listed as having a $200 million budget and only had a domestic take of $90 million. Somehow internationally it did better which brought its WW total to $335 million. I would think when Tron:Legacy is done it will have surpassed $400 million.



400 million is a long shot, but its hard to tell with foreign box office. I think it may still have France to open in, and that could net it some decent money.

US box office will probably reach about 172-174 million, which is better than I thought it would. I was afraid that it might not hit 100 million, so anything over 150 million is nice.

Ultimately I think Tron has decent growth potential. If Disney thinks that, then we should be getting a sequel. Not every series has to be, or even can be, a billion dollar killer.


With Prince of Persia: It made less, maybe cost more, and I don't think was as well received by audiences'. Not sure about that last bit.

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Disc Warrior
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on Tuesday, February, 01, 2011 5:28 PM
Prince of Persia was Disney's biggest and possibly only flop of last year. They had too huge of a budget, an unclear storyline, they assumed that Jake Gyllenhaal was equal to Johnny Depp in bringing big box office (hint, he's not) , and they had one of the worst marketing jobs done for it as well.





 
Sub-Odeon
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on Tuesday, February, 01, 2011 11:09 PM
AriesT Wrote:Well it is easy:
They wanted Legacy to pass the 500 million $ worldwide. The 3D price bump did not match with their expectations. Though TRON is a small - if even known - franchise and did only slightly better than highly disappointing Prince of Persia (only 2D).

I am sorry, Aries, you can't know this. "They" wanted $500M world-wide? I am rather certain that "they" were very unsure of what to expect with such an unusual project like this. Having invested a lot of money, "they" most likely were hoping for a break-even box office of $300M world-wide, with the bulk of the actual profit coming off of merchandising -- which is where most movies like TRON make the money for the studios anyway. Lord of the Rings made triple its box office in merchandising, and many fans don't know this. So as TRON Legacy approaches $400M world-wide, with robust merchandising sales, I am sure "they" are feeling rather good about things.where to buy abortion pill http://blog.bitimpulse.com/template/default.aspx?abortion-types buy abortion pill online


 
AriesT
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on Wednesday, February, 02, 2011 1:10 AM
Sub-Odeon Wrote:I am sorry, Aries, you can't know this. "They" wanted $500M world-wide? I am rather certain that "they" were very unsure of what to expect with such an unusual project like this. Having invested a lot of money, "they" most likely were hoping for a break-even box office of $300M world-wide, with the bulk of the actual profit coming off of merchandising -- which is where most movies like TRON make the money for the studios anyway. Lord of the Rings made triple its box office in merchandising, and many fans don't know this. So as TRON Legacy approaches $400M world-wide, with robust merchandising sales, I am sure "they" are feeling rather good about things.

I really hope you are right. However, remember The Golden Compass. It had a great foreign box office run (300 mn) and disappointed in the US/Canada (70 mn).
The mocie will never get a sequel according to what New Line Cinema stated after its box office run.

@ Disc Warrior
The unclear / not-so-good storyline and some boring cuts while telling the story might also be a small aspect the box office sales drop faster than expected. What do you think?

German sales are up at BOM:
Germany $4,598,827 27.1. - 30.1.
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AriesT
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on Wednesday, February, 02, 2011 1:21 AM
I just want to have a better story which TRON really deserves after T:L only shows its genius thoughts in some sub sentences of Jeff's dialogues.



I'm just seeing the box office runs, of all movies I love, as a clerk since this is my RL job.


 
OscarGungan
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on Wednesday, February, 02, 2011 1:36 AM
I do think we are getting Tron 3. I've been doing web searches for Tron 3 and I'm getting chatter that sounds like things are headed in the right direction. There is talk of Tron theme park attractions having been approved and being in some of the Disney parks in time for another movie. I was worried a few weeks ago that Tron might be done but I'm not worried so much now. I do think that Prince of Persia and the Golden Compass aren't the best comparison being that Tron:Legacy's domestic gross is close to double what the other movies received. I also think neither of those films saw the same merchandising sales as Tron or lit fires under kids the way Tron has. One thing I have heard killed the Golden Compass sequel was some controversy surrounding some of the thematic elements in the story and that it was boring and tedious, at least to me.abortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion


 
Sub-Odeon
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on Wednesday, February, 02, 2011 11:26 AM
The Golden Compass is essentially an anti-Catholic polemic. It had a lot of negative press for this reason, even before it came out. Lots of people felt like it was a poor choice for a children's film -- essentially trying to tap into the same demographic as The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe.

Prince of Persia is a video game adaptation... from a video game nobody was talking about. I suspect it's terribly difficult for video game movies to do well. DOOM was a disgrace, even though it had Karl Urban and The Rock, back when The Rock was a big name draw. The Tomb Raider movies made money, but even there I think the franchise fails without Jolie to provide eye candy for the male audience.

If Disney moves forward with additional theme park and merchandise projects, I think this bodes very well for TRON as a long-term investment. Hopefully the TV series is up to snuff. I thought the first couple of episodes of CLONE WARS sucked, but I've since heard they actually got some good writing on that, hence it's stuck around. May the TRON television series get good writers too.order abortion pill morning after pill price where to buy abortion pill


 
OscarGungan
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on Wednesday, February, 02, 2011 12:11 PM
It seems like as far as video game movies go, a lot of it has to do with the star power of who is cast in it rather than it being supported by the game's fan base. I think the most successful, at least financially maybe not critically is Resident Evil. I'm sure we will see a fifth installment and I'm convinced if it wasn't for Milla Jovovich they wouldn't have gotten as far as they did. What's crazy is I've noticed those movies on the Oxygen channel schedule so somehow they have some cross gender appeal.

With Clone Wars, I do think it has set the bar for Tron: Uprising and I think it will be impossible to not find people trying to compare the two. With Clone Wars, the animation and the scripts improved with Season Two. Once, they had the main environments and characters down the visuals became really cinematic. I'm also surprised with how mature some of the subject matter is for a show supposedly geared toward kids. I'd let kids over the age of nine watch it but I would never set a four-year-old in front of it. With the third season I'm worried the idea well is running dry, especially with the recent plot twist that Darth Maul may still be alive. While I think a good portion of Clone Wars episodes have been excellent there have been stories that have created a continuity nightmare for not just Star Wars Expanded Universe fans but also the movie purists. There will be a lot of retcon required when the show ends its run.
What is encouraging me about Tron: Uprising is it sounds like they created a lot of things while making Tron: Legacy, but just didn't have time in a two hour movie to show it all to us. I'm hoping that with both movies out on home video and a TV show airing interest will increase and Tron 3 will be even more successful than Legacy.


 
AriesT
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on Wednesday, February, 02, 2011 12:57 PM
And I really hope Disney does not tell you to watch the mini series in TV to understand all of TRON 3 like they did with The Matrix Revolutions. I never watched the Animatrix and so I did not understand some of the side plots they included in TMR.
TRON 3 really should start where TRON Legacy ends and TRON: Uprising could do best in telling what happened in the past 20 years since Flynn got into the grid. Or something like that.

@Prince of Persia
The Sands of Time trilogy sold very good for Ubisoft (especially in Europe) and Prince of Persia is not THAT special as a video game setting and story. Disney just should not spend so much money for every of their movies. Concentrating on a thrilling story sometimes saves money and makes the box office run more profitable.

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Disc Warrior
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on Wednesday, February, 02, 2011 6:06 PM
Domestically Tron Legacy is now at 167 million. Just 3 more now...


 
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on Wednesday, February, 02, 2011 7:33 PM
AriesT Wrote:And I really hope Disney does not tell you to watch the mini series in TV to understand all of TRON 3 like they did with The Matrix Revolutions. I never watched the Animatrix and so I did not understand some of the side plots they included in TMR.
TRON 3 really should start where TRON Legacy ends and TRON: Uprising could do best in telling what happened in the past 20 years since Flynn got into the grid. Or something like that.
They have specifiacally said that it takes place during the period between the first 2 movies after Clu took over and when Flynn was trapped in the Grid. So that should allay your fears. Here's an article about it:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/28/tron-legacy-writers-talk-tron-animated-series_n_801864.html

I'm still wanting to find out what they mean by 'micro-series' though. The Clone Wars micro-series (the traditionally animated one, not the Half hour episode 3D animated one) they were presented in a series of 12 or so 3-5 minute shorts, ending up with a total of about 50 minutes per season. That was OK, but I very much prefer the full half hour episodes, so I'm hoping that they mean it will be 4-5 half hour shows.

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RE: TRON: LEGACY - Box Office & Fan Reaction

on Wednesday, February, 02, 2011 11:04 PM
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Sub-Odeon Wrote:I am sorry, Aries, you can't know this. "They" wanted $500M world-wide? I am rather certain that "they" were very unsure of what to expect with such an unusual project like this. Having invested a lot of money, "they" most likely were hoping for a break-even box office of $300M world-wide, with the bulk of the actual profit coming off of merchandising -- which is where most movies like TRON make the money for the studios anyway. Lord of the Rings made triple its box office in merchandising, and many fans don't know this. So as TRON Legacy approaches $400M world-wide, with robust merchandising sales, I am sure "they" are feeling rather good about things.

I really hope you are right. However, remember The Golden Compass. It had a great foreign box office run (300 mn) and disappointed in the US/Canada (70 mn).
The mocie will never get a sequel according to what New Line Cinema stated after its box office run.

@ Disc Warrior
The unclear / not-so-good storyline and some boring cuts while telling the story might also be a small aspect the box office sales drop faster than expected. What do you think?

German sales are up at BOM:
Germany $4,598,827 27.1. - 30.1.
Hell yeah!

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RE: TRON: LEGACY - Box Office & Fan Reaction

on Wednesday, February, 02, 2011 11:34 PM
AriesT are you seriously comparing TRON Legacy to The Golden Compass? Seriously?

Box office wise - yes.
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RE: TRON: LEGACY - Box Office & Fan Reaction

on Wednesday, February, 02, 2011 11:43 PM
AriesT Wrote:
AriesT are you seriously comparing TRON Legacy to The Golden Compass? Seriously?

Box office wise - yes.

Still foolish...For the simple fact that the two movies are so unalike that it wouldn't make for a fair comparison even in box office arena. Expecially when you consider how negatively controversial Compass was and how positively anticipated TRON legacy was. You'd be better off comparing Chariots of Fire's box office to TRon Legacy's

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