Imbroglio Wrote: Sub-Odeon Wrote: Imbroglio Wrote:I don't blame flotilla for waiting 28 years only to be let down. Not everyone is an obssessive Tron fanboy willing to overlook shortcommings of TL. From what I have seen, flotilla would have probably ripped apart ANYTHING that Disney gave us. Some fans are their own worst enemies -- and enemies of the franchises they claim to love. So far I am seeing 5/1 positive reviews, with the haters being the outliers. GO TRON! He isn't the only one that is voicing the same concerns on his list. With the amount of money that Disney spent on production and pre-release, people had high expectations that the movie would live up to the hype. There just isn' t the same "magic" that was present with the first movie and I doubt that TL will have the same influence with the audience as Tron did back in 1982. If you ask those in their 30s to early 40s in the computer field if Tron meant anything to them, they would probably have a story to tell.

Dude, people in their 30s and 40s are desensitized by VFX nowadays.
You're NEVER gonna get that same feeling in 1982 !

But ask a child today in 15 years who would've seen TRON Legacy in IMAX 3D
I'm sure they'll have stories to tell as well.

Imbroglio Wrote: ShadowDragon1 Wrote:Tron Legacy has inspired me as an aspiring game designer/concept artist **immensely** and I know other graduates in the same subjects as me, that HAVE been inspired by Tron Legacy as well. I'm sure me and my recent graduates are not the only ones. I am not talking about Tron fanboys or other people ALREADY in computer fields. How many KIDS, who haven't already planned to, are going to be inspired by TL to do so? Back in 1982 I had no idea what direction I wanted to take in high school. Then I saw Tron and it was a big in the direction I took in my life. My mind was awakened to the near endless possibilities that would be possible through the use of computers.

This movie has no better effects than any other movie of today.
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DevourTheLiving Wrote:OT: Am I the only one who has grown tired of the rapid rise in the use of the words, "epic", "fail", and "win"? It was fine at first, but now it's just incredibly annoying. Are there really no better adjectives to describe a good or bad...anything? acman:

TRON LEGACY was......
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I thought the movie was great, as did several of my fellow TRON-fan companions. Even friends that came along that hadn't even seen the original thought it was good. They didn't geek out like us fans, but they thought it was a cool movie nonetheless.
My kids on the other hand... have not been able to stop talking about TRON since we saw it. They liked the original TRON... they loved TRON: Legacy.

Its like CLU says to Jarivs.... "It wasn't for them".

I agree.

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What I mean is that Tron Legacy wasn't for the people who dislike it.

Oh btw, Flotilla,

The project for 2008 comic con Tron teaser trailer is rendered at 1920x1080.

Where it gets tricky is that they wanted 235 so they framed it like it was 235 with black bars even though the original render is in 1920x1080. It has been post cropped though framed like it was 235.

Thats what I see here in the 3D project file cameras in Maya AND the nuke composite. Also, there wasn't Vray for maya at the time of creation so animation was piped out to Max for rendering in Vray.

Fail points??? I didn't see any fail points in this film whatsoever. The only fail points I see is people bickering and nitpicking ...wwaahhh waaahhh waahhh grow some balls. This film was made from us fans back in '82, and nothing will stop my passion for loving this franchise. Here we finally have Tron and people complain. But oh...when harry crapper and twilight comes out with new crap, people love it. No wonder why todays society sucks. People today cant APPRECIATE anything anymore. Heck, back in '82 when I was 6, I didn't complain about TRON being "boring" or "crappy plot", no I took it in because that was OUR TIME. C64, atari, collecovision, VIC-20's. That was the graphics then. To me its not out of date and never will be...and it's still the movie I will look up to till I die.

Now we have Tron: Legacy. I felt this movie lived up to what we (real fans) have been waiting for , for these last 28 years. The graphics kick butt (better then avatar and transformers crap) , the acting was great.. soundtrack..words cannot explain. But all hell breaks loose cause of Garrett Hedlund can't act,..or "this ain't a daft punk cd"...wow seriously... oh wait here's my favorite "I'm only going to see this movie cause of Daft Punk".. HA.. I'm glad they showed you guys. I'm grateful that DP did the music in orchestra. If yu want to talk about "fail points" , might as well point to yourself. Your the biggest failure of them all.. End of Line

Euphemizm Wrote:Oh btw, Flotilla, The project for 2008 comic con Tron teaser trailer is rendered at 1920x1080. Where it gets tricky is that they wanted 235 so they framed it like it was 235 with black bars even though the original render is in 1920x1080. It has been post cropped though framed like it was 235. Thats what I see here in the 3D project file cameras in Maya AND the nuke composite. Also, there wasn't Vray for maya at the time of creation so animation was piped out to Max for rendering in Vray.

That's very interesting. The files for the versions released to the public seem to only show 1920x800 though.

I mean, if we were to open the vids at maximum resolution, the best we would get would be 1920x800 pixels. If we wanted the vid to be 1920x1080, we would have to strech the 800 pixels up to 1080 thus causing distortion.

I wonder if the set of final output files that you have in the project is different than what the public was offered?

Do you happen to know the filesizes, were they greater than 244MB by any chance? Sorry, I'm not familiar with 235 processing just yet.

This film is way to new to evaluate on a completely bias level. Needs to gestate before it gets gutted by folks who have way too much free time on their hands. Granted there are some continuity errors and whatnot but seriously, THEY MADE A SEQUEL TO TRON. WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. YOU SHOULD BE GRATEFUL IT EXISTS.

flotilla Wrote: As an absolute fan of the original Tron (viewed over 300 times), listed below are a couple FAIL points that I observed in Tron Legacy during a midnight screening of the film: 1. Garrett Hedlund's acting ability 2. Minimum use of the Tron character in the movie. 3. Horrible redo's of the origiinal films one-liners 4. Flying Top Gun-like space ship fighter vehicles 5. Clu's Face (holy horrible cgi) 6. The Plot 7. Too many boring scenes (way too many) 8. Costumes (compared to original) 9. Transistion from Real World to the grid (way too short) 10. The character of Zues I'm sure there are many more but those are the initial 10 that bothered me the most.

1. Agree and disagree — Yeah but they've could have done worse. Like someone mentioned: would you prefer LeBouf? Thought not. Plus, I think it was kind of in his character to be as "stiff" as he was. That's just the typical cyberpunk protagonist: Neo from The Matrix, Decker from Blade Runner, Case from Neuromancer, the list goes on.

2. Kind of agree — I liked how he was masked. It gave him more of a mysterious but heroic allure to him. They should have used that a bit more.

3. Disagree — I think those were more Dude-isms there. As a Jeff Bridges fan, I approved.

4. Agree and disagree — Okay, yeah, they were gimmicky but they were still cool.

5. Agree — ...but it kind of worked when they were inside the grid. They shouldn't have showed it in reality because when this movie's CGI gets outdated, it will, in a way, break the film's fourth wall. It wasn't terrible but it was still too obvious (and overly creepy).

6. Disagree — I honestly thought this was going to be a "Save the Princess" plot, not a "let's break out of here or die trying" one; I'm pleased by the route it took. It felt kind of short despite the film being two hours. The story's beats were separated by too many drawn out bits and those beats weren't built up at all. It was like sudden action --> steep fall --> sudden action.

7. Agree — Look at 6.

8. PFFFT DISAGREE — What the hell are you talking about? I'm sorry but I would have sex in those suits. Kinky Latex and Leather > Skin Tight Pajamas

9. I can't decide if I disagree or not. — Yeah, I was expecting something about more drawn out and epic but I was slightly high when I saw this part and it looked pretty cool to me.

10. Disagree — Blame that on him not being developed enough. He seemed really interesting but they killed him off so fast that he didn't even feel important enough to matter. I mean, what's more interesting than a coked-up, metrosexual David Bowie with a cane that shoots 8-bit bullets and has a hot mistress?

Jake73 Wrote:Granted there are some continuity errors and whatnot but seriously, THEY MADE A SEQUEL TO TRON. WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. YOU SHOULD BE GRATEFUL IT EXISTS.

This.