ShadowDragon1 Wrote:What was shown in Hall H was a comic con exclusive, it was not meant to be recorded by mobile phone and shown outside of the Tron Legacy Panel. The person that filmed it was lucky he wasn't caught and expelled from Comic Con. Some of the scenes/shots shown may be a third trailer probably to be released a month or two before December. But the actual 8 minute segment shown at SD CC 2010 in Hall H I can guarantee will not be released officially. It was a special segment meant only for that panel, it wasn't meant for being released to the public.

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ChessMess Wrote:I'll throw my helmet in and agree that the clothes are a mistake, but probably done for the whole 'putting on armor' scene. I think he should have had a 'basic' circuitry suite and then they put the armor on that. I also think Sam's reactions were not the best. Flynn was more like 'hey I'm tripping' disbelief so it seemed to fit. Sams reactions are not on par, but the viewer is so caught up in the visuals hopefully it won't be a distraction.

Well, I have a new understanding of the "Armor Room" Scene, thanks to an interview I read with the one of the producers. The scene were Sam gets his Armor not only cements the idea that he is in a foreign dangerous land but also signifies he is now governed somewhat by the rules of the system and how the electronic world works. If he has USER powers like Flynn did in the original movie, he is yet to realize them and then he gets his disk. Which in comparison to the first movie is an interesting caveat. The system has changed to a modus whereby a transplant from the outside is not automatically just equipped with a disk, but must be given one. Sam's experience informs us of that change. As for me, that opens the door for more questions, that may or may not be answered. What happens to an "outsider" that is not sentenced to the games? How do they get their disk?
The disk, to outsiders holds one meaning but to a program, a native to the troniverse it is everything. Everything you do and have done is recorded on your Identity disk, its like the physical equivalent of a soul for these programs so the fact that you can separate it from your being and wield it carries great weight to them.

The article I read is here....

http://io9.com/5600892/tron-legacys-producer-breaks-down-the-clues-in-the-new-trailer

Maybe Flynn rezzing in with the suit was a function of the MCP. As in, the MCP modified the digitization process so that Flynn would rez in with the suit already, thus eliminating the trouble of having to run him through all the armor room stuff.

From what I understand, the Tron world is in the process of returning to the style of governing that the MCP enforced in 1982. It seems that since 1989, possibly ever since Flynn was trapped (my theory) in the digital world, Clu and his allies have been working to return the Tron world's government to the style enforced by the MCP. What we see in Tron legacy is possibly a slightly earlier variation of the MCP's rule in Tron.

ShadowDragon1 Wrote:Seeing the 8 minutes first hand in Hall H at SDCC 2010's Tron Legacy Panel, and reading that interview with Sean Baily makes me *more* confident in the movie. I really feel that some people are really uneccessarily and prematurely nitpicking, over-analyzing, and just being a bit too harsh on 10-20 second snippets of only 8 minutes of fuzzy, audience head filled, bootleg footage that DOES NOT even compare to seeing the footage first hand, in RealD, with the music and audio flowing from a great sound system ; which for the most part has that "WOW!" factor, that has "Umph". It's one thing to pick apart what is basically a fuzzy "thumb nail", it's something else seeing the *actual* thing first-hand they way it's *meant* to be seen.

I think people are just upset about the concept of Sam rezzing in without a suit. That has nothing to do with the bootleg video quality.

Adding things in just to be cool without grounding is cheap and almost mindless. There's no reason not to have it but ground it in the idiom.

Anyway, the problem is: Those clothes are not clothes. They are data. Why make an advanced system to include clothes and a full head of hair, for a world of game grids, only to require shedding the excess data and "patching" the program to fight? Are his "clothes" still stored in memory, and will the fight patch be uninstalled, and will he get his clothes back upon returning to the real world?

Something can't be done in the first film. It's done now.

People complain about it not being accurate to a decision made because of technical reasons.

What the hell is wrong with you people?

This is pretty much Evil dead II to Evil dead.

In the ED series the first movie was on an extremely tight budget and a lot of intentions could not be fulfilled. ED II came out and realized a lot of unused concepts from the first film. The revisions did clash with the old ideas. Did anyone care? No.

In fact they were happy that the old cool concepts came to be.

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ShadowDragon1 Wrote:IMO that is a really kind of silly of thing to complain or be upset about. The cyberspace realm of Tron Legacy world does *not* take place inside the 1982 computer mainframe under absolute control of the MCP anymore. This is Flynn's own computer system, HIS cyberspace world he designed and tailor made... he made the rules of this new world. Clu took over and bent those rules and maybe even added/altered some. "The Game has changed" and so has The Grid. Flynn wanted a human/User to retain their clothes after after being digitized. It doesn't really make much if any difference to the overall story IMO. He's a stranger in a strangeland, but to the Program's he's just another stray Program without an Identity Disc, his regular clothes don't mean anything, it's superfluous. IMO It doesn't matter he's in a black leather jacket and jeans i.e. regular clothes for all of 4-5 minutes. I for one think the sequence with the Sirens was very very cool. It pays homage to the formation of Tron sequence and Sark's speech to the "new recruits".

I think the Siren sequence is also cool but more over important to the function of how we see this new world. In the original movie, everything just "happened" what ever logic may have been intended was never fully explained and that could be because the MCP and Sark controlled the domain. Now we have a new regime. A world where a warrior doesn't just get teleported to some sterile but cool game grid for a deathmach but instead walks to the arena and becomes grouped in with the other combatants before the duel. This is the redefition of the first movie's "Spartacus" sentimentality many alluded to back in 82'. It becomes a "carry your shield or come home on it" moment. One that is punctuated when Siren Gem answers Sam's question with a one word answer "Survive". I don't know a whole lot about the adult Sam but he seems a bit reckless and prone to acts of daredevilism (from the few shots we see of him on his father's cycle). He is caught between a world fraught with danger that gives him an adrenaline rush and the memory of his father that suddenly disappeared and the associated longing for said father. His being propelled into the world of TRON and the game grid is going to force him to grow up a little bit more.order abortion pill http://unclejohnsprojects.com/template/default.aspx?morning-after-pill-price where to buy abortion pill

Darth Tronage Wrote:Alright, that article didn't make me feel any better about the movie. It actually increased my concern after I started feeling better about the movie.

Well DT, I can't allay your fears but do realize the interview is just one individuals POV of the film. What he feels is the crux of the scenes expressed are purely his own feelings. Personally I think he makes some good points and can accept the concepts he presents, but it is not the end all be all of the story of TRON legacy.

jtr7 Wrote:Adding things in just to be cool without grounding is cheap and almost mindless. There's no reason not to have it but ground it in the idiom. Anyway, the problem is: Those clothes are not clothes. They are data. Why make an advanced system to include clothes and a full head of hair, for a world of game grids, only to require shedding the excess data and "patching" the program to fight? Are his "clothes" still stored in memory, and will the fight patch be uninstalled, and will he get his clothes back upon returning to the real world?

HAHAHA OH WOW!

This post made me facepalm. HARD.
Flynn was preparing the computer world for mass user rezzing. He was trying to make the world into a place where users could live and not have to fear overpopulation (which is why you go into the world in your clothes and a full head of hair).