Not even worth arguing. You are wrong.

I'm one of the ones who will not be converted. I think they are leaving a huge component out of this movie - I just hope that the makers (director and producer) do not feel the sting of a lack of continuity that has bitten other sci fi series....

lurkinghorror Wrote:From a writing perspective, if the story demands for the characters to be there, they should be there. If it doesn't, they shouldn't. I could see working in Lora and Alan. Yori... No. Ram, despite him being my favorite character... No.

I know what you and DaveTron mean, but for some movies, it just seems 'right' to fit cameos of the original main cast in, in my opinion. I don't feel Yori, Ram or Dillinger's characters need to be written into the new story. I'm just saying they should be fit into the film as one of the actors somehow, even just as an extra. Then again, I could see a concern of added costs with making them just be expensive extras. So maybe that's a concern, budget-wise. PS: Some movies make it obvious when they're putting an old character in, as the movie pauses on them a little too long or whatever; I wouldn't want that happening.

Maybe because Tron is 27 years old, we're finally getting a sequel and has a bit of a cult following, among other reasons, it just seems like Tron would be a good film to have cameos. The camaraderie between Cindy, Jeff, Dan and Bruce is palpable -- they were a team, in my mind... and it's just sad to not have them all in the sequel in one form or another.where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online

DaveTRON Wrote:As for the rest of you, I respect your point of view, and I sympathize with the fact that this element will be missing from the new film, but I personally think some of you are taking far to militant a stance and assessing blame without knowing your facts.

I do not disagree with that at all. What I disagree with is the almost personal aspect some people are taking towards Steven and the new Production Team. It's wrong.

Well, some people would say this thread was bodied around a certain person, and you made a point that is valid, so what if there's not 110 people here saying it, if some have to raise their voice for those who don't, and which is the contrary voice in the thread?

Maybe two people. So don't get upset. It's a discussion, not a debate. I applaud the amazing new team and their hard work in TL.

But I can say outloud to anybody I wish I think the plot will suck w/o Cindy. I don't think it's unfair to say that in a thread for Cindy's petition. Maybe you should sign it and show you agree. If it wasn't a convincing argument, maybe you wouldn't be so offended.

Hope that isn't too much to ask, and thanks for your concern. I'm not trying to take your words and make you eat them or anything.

Of course it's personal. You are getting this from the perspective of a fan. My opinion is one of the many temperature checks that obviously haven't been done prior to the execution of this movie.

The purpose of this thread is to provide support for what I, as a fan, want to see. Cindy/Yoir/Laura was what we in the Army call an enabler. The first movie wasn't about her. One could argue that it wasn't even really about the movie's namesake - it could have been called "the plight of Flynn" or "Rise and Decent of the Cyber Christ," but Tron was more video game friendly, and more video game sounding. I am telling you as a fan that I feel that these guys are off the mark - I will bet next year's housing allowance that when I do get to see this movie, if I'm not deployed again, I will feel it is better if she had been in it.

DaveTRON Wrote: Landry, It's "D23 Expo: It's the ultimate Disney fan experience, taking place in Anaheim, California from September 10-13, 2009. This can't-miss event will feature guest speakers, celebrity appearances, breathtaking exhibitions, sneak peeks, film screenings, one-of-a-kind merchandise, and so much more! Admission will be discounted for D23 members." Next Friday afternoon there is a panel with discussion on the two films. The TRON section is about how the film was made, it is focused solely on that aspect which is why there are no cast members there. Then there will be a short presentation on TRON Legacy, focusing on the elements they took from the first film and how they made their film. Lisberger is speaking on TRON, and I think Sean Bailey and/or Joseph Kosinski is/are speaking for TRON legacy. The presentation is focused on the tech of the films, but I am sure other questions, such as the once being debated here, will arise. If you are going to be in LA and can come let me know and maybe I can wrangle another pass for you. It would be good to meet you.

Sounds neat, and I might be able to drive down. I have a bunch of business in the LA area that is just piling up, so it would be easy to justify. The trick is whether or not it would work around my fiance's plans for the weekend. I'll know in about 24 hours. Even if you can't get an extra pass, it would be good to finally meet face to face.where to buy abortion pill http://blog.bitimpulse.com/template/default.aspx?abortion-types buy abortion pill onlineabortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion

lurkinghorror Wrote: DaveTRON Wrote: Landry, It's "D23 Expo: It's the ultimate Disney fan experience, taking place in Anaheim, California from September 10-13, 2009. This can't-miss event will feature guest speakers, celebrity appearances, breathtaking exhibitions, sneak peeks, film screenings, one-of-a-kind merchandise, and so much more! Admission will be discounted for D23 members." Next Friday afternoon there is a panel with discussion on the two films. The TRON section is about how the film was made, it is focused solely on that aspect which is why there are no cast members there. Then there will be a short presentation on TRON Legacy, focusing on the elements they took from the first film and how they made their film. Lisberger is speaking on TRON, and I think Sean Bailey and/or Joseph Kosinski is/are speaking for TRON legacy. The presentation is focused on the tech of the films, but I am sure other questions, such as the once being debated here, will arise. If you are going to be in LA and can come let me know and maybe I can wrangle another pass for you. It would be good to meet you. Sounds neat, and I might be able to drive down. I have a bunch of business in the LA area that is just piling up, so it would be easy to justify. The trick is whether or not it would work around my fiance's plans for the weekend. I'll know in about 24 hours. Even if you can't get an extra pass, it would be good to finally meet face to face.

I will inquire. It would be good to meet, and I will get you to autograph my graphic novel too! Thanks for the mention in the back by the way!

DaveTRON Wrote:Jademz, As usual, I have no freaking clue what you are actually saying there. If I read it one way, you seem to be trying to pick a fight. Hope I am wrong.

I'm not picking a fight. I get this alot from people who don't know I'll say one thing, maybe not what you might expect, then they want to know if what I'm saying is personal. It's never personal, all I'm doing is being objective and observant about things, meanwhile think from my personal experience, Cindy should have respect, as well as the thread.

I don't want to undermine your friendship, or Lisberger's - should I ever become better aquainted with either of you.

I have a habit in certain discussions - some think to be a debate, I will still tell you wtf are you thinking to your face, and I'm being harmless in doing so, but it's like you're hacking up in her business, and thinking nobody is welcome to say screw you. Well, sorry, but I'd just laugh if someone said that to me. You and SL can do the same thing, but you're voicing out.

Nobody is going to dismiss the movie if someone doesn't like the artwork, the half naked women, and the evolution of the film Tron. Do you think people will take anyone in here that seriously?

So to answer what I'm reading into - If you get flapped up about it here, one part of my intuition is getting the hint that it's personal to you in a negative way, so at the same time, I want to show respect to the readers and talk through the slippery slope of possibilties maintaining this direct method of speaking.

I don't hate you, or feel disgusted by you and Steven, I'm hoping I would get along, nobody is going to campaign that they think less of TL. I say it because I help write stories, and I'm entitled to my opinion, but I'm not going to kiss anyone's a__ if they think what I'm saying is negative and they should hear no evil.

Yes, these people on the forums gave you an argument, I choose to engage a little, I apologize if that hurt you or anyone on the team's pride, TL team is excercising their freedoms in the movie, that doesn't make us enemies, or opposite. I wish to work on the set just like anyone else in here. It's not about me.

DaveTRON Wrote:What you are trying to do is anyone's guess.

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I think it's great that they've created TRON Legacy. I applaud their efforts. I've merely been stating that Cindy Morgan should be a part of it.

It does get a little personal because there are people behind decisions. There are people who have worked with Cindy & they know her work. They can speak up and use their influence to get her into TRON Legacy. Even if it's a digital cameo at this point.

In regards to D23 I understand that the topic is focused on how TRON was made, but aren't the actors & actresses also a part of the making of the movie? To me it's a giant missed PR opportunity that would have made the thousands of fans who will be watching TRON on the BIG SCREEN again 27 YEARS LATER very happy.

Cindy has always been there for her TRON fans & friends. We will continue to speak out for the injustice of leaving her out of the movie right up to the release date. The easiest way to fix this problem is to do right by Cindy and include her in TRON Legacy. With over a year of post production there's still time.