DaveTRON Wrote:I thought it looked grainy and awful. Bad sound cuts removing certain pieces of dialog. I was not impressed with this digital version. It could have been due to the location and other technology, but what we saw today was nowhere near as good as the new 70mm print from El Capitan in 2004.

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SuperScooby, the operative word was "attempted" when describing your "humor". I got it, but I have to admit I was a little offended. Take the hint and perhaps try acting differently here, you might gain some friends in the process.

Now, did anyone read ALL of my note?

The fuzziness may have very well been caused by the location and the projection. What we saw in that room was not great, but that does not mean by any extension that the visual part of the transfer is bad. Just that screening was bad. Please don't extend my words beyond what I saw yesterday.

The sound thing is one of my personal pet peeves with TRON. I have watched the movie HUNDREDS of times, in every format it has been produced for, and there are little bits of sound throughout the movie that for some reason the people doing the editing decide to cut. This isn't just this version, it's all versions of TRON.

The PSP version in my POV has the best audio transfer. As they are walking Peter Jurassik's character to his cel for example, you can clearly hear the guards personal chatter prior to the main lines. It's little things like this.

This transfer I saw yesterday had a lot of that in place, but then there are incredibly stupid little cuts like the line that the very first guard you see say when Flynn first rezzes into the computer. He say's "Vacate Entry Port Program", but the uncaring person who cut this version together cut it to just "Program". That is a sign that the person who did the editing just didn't frikking care about what they were doing or TRON.

It's a small thing a maniac like me would notice, but most people would not.

If Disney is going to do a TRUE 100% wonderful Blue Ray version with all of the bells and whistles, they need someone looking over the production who gives a shit about all the little flourishes a fan would care about and not just a mass produced cleaned up version for the masses.

I'm available.

Ok, so I was there and watched the movie.

It was weird, I don't know if it was a audio equipment issue or they were playing a crummy transfer,
but yeah some pieces little pieces of dialogue here and there was missing.

Some of the movie looked grainy and not cleaned up at all, and the tone/colors on some things where still not fixed.
It appeared as if the glowing trace lines & circuits changed to at least 3 different hues of blue, from royal blue to white-blue to cyan blue and then royal blue again. That kind of bugged me.

I love the movie, but that visual quality was *not* worthy of a Blu Ray release at all. My 20th aniv DVD looks and sounds better in my opinion. I hope those flaws are cleaned up before the Blu Ray release....

ShadowDragon1 Wrote:Ok, so I was there and watched the movie. It was weird, I don't know if it was a audio equipment issue or they were playing a crummy transfer, but yeah some pieces little pieces of dialogue here and there was missing. Some of the movie looked grainy and not cleaned up at all, and the tone/colors on some things where still not fixed. It appeared as if the glowing trace lines & circuits changed to at least 3 different hues of blue, from royal blue to white-blue to cyan blue and then royal blue again. That kind of bugged me. I love the movie, but that visual quality was *not* worthy of a Blu Ray release at all. My 20th aniv DVD looks and sounds better in my opinion. I hope those flaws are cleaned up before the Blu Ray release....

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SuperScooby Wrote:TF, appologies for the bad humor attempt.

It's funny that maybe only you and I would laugh at each other saying that..


Yeah who boned up the blueray vid. hahaha!!

I've spent a few hours color matching those scenes, it doesn't take much. And all they need to do is fix those scenes, add some more original content in the supplimental section(and stuff), convert it to DV, give it treatments for blue ray and blast out some 25 GB's for the masses. That simple.
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I really would not be surprised at all if the people behind the remaster were on a tight schedule, because I like to think the focus right now is TL. I'm thinking it's sorta like the rough clip they showed at ComiCon, they didn't have a lot of time to put it together but they wanted to show at least something.

Hey what you said is so very true. My infinite patience is about to divide by zero and implode my brain. Waiting for Tron Legacy is proving very tough. :/


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Unfortunately it seems to be a common occurrence where a studio takes a classic, chooses an unimpressive master, pulls a half-hearted effort to digitally convert the film, release it on disc and then after the fans complain they go back later and make everyone buy a properly remastered version all over again.

It happened with The Fifth Element and to a lesser extent The Last Starfighter. Also several of the recently released Trek movies had less-than-stellar transfers. I really hope that it won't be the case with Tron and that they will fix it before it goes to BR.

Hey guys, I think I just experienced the same audio problem with Tron while watching it on my kitchen TV. The TV only has one speaker (it's really old ) so it's basically downmixing the 5.1 DVD sound into a crappy mono mix.

Well the people that manufactured the DVD player forgot to include the rear surround channels in the downmix. So, for example, instead of hearing the guard saying, "Vacate entry port, Program"...all you hear, if you're just listening to the mono channel is just "Program". This is because the guard is off screen to the left, so it makes sense to pan his voice to the extreme left so that you know where the voice is coming from.

Either the Live Sound guy forgot to hook up the other surround speakers...or they decided to use the convention center's pa system, which probably wouldn't support surround sound and multiple inputs, so the guy did what he could and plugged in just the mono channel.

Whatever happened, the fact is that the rear surround channels were muted during the presentation.

Here's an mp3 example what I'm talking about:

http://www.mediafire.com/?vlwmnndmidv
The first example is when the rear channels are muted. All you hear is "...Program", just like what DaveTRON was saying.

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Mr. Sinistar Wrote:Hey guys, I think I just experienced the same audio problem with Tron while watching it on my kitchen TV. The TV only has one speaker (it's really old ) so it's basically downmixing the 5.1 DVD sound into a crappy mono mix. Well the people that manufactured the DVD player forgot to include the rear surround channels in the downmix. So, for example, instead of hearing the guard saying, "Vacate entry port, Program"...all you hear, if you're just listening to the mono channel is just "Program". This is because the guard is off screen to the left, so it makes sense to pan his voice to the extreme left so that you know where the voice is coming from. Either the Live Sound guy forgot to hook up the other surround speakers...or they decided to use the convention center's pa system, which probably wouldn't support surround sound and multiple inputs, so the guy did what he could and plugged in just the mono channel. Whatever happened, the fact is that the rear surround channels were muted during the presentation.

That's pretty funny, I don't think I've heard of a dvd player that coudn't downmix to mono, just thinking of that makes me laugh.. dunno why..

I don't think Tron wanted to be played in mono.