Wow, big news there. And I'm liking what I'm hearing. Flynn whizzing around in a Classic Light Cycle? Dang!

Oniell Ford Wrote:Holy Crap. It's a little like the storyline in a sense. I guess this is a close "TRON 2.0" movie but an offical sequal to the movie at the same time?

Yeah, it parallels the game a lot. The storylines are quite similar.

They've substituted Jet Bradley with Sean Flynn, but otherwise they're pretty close. A corrupt program causing trouble inside the computer, Flynn leaving ENCOM, someone (Flynn) disappearing into the electronic world, a son going in after his father to "rescue" him, Alan Bradley eventually taking over ENCOM, Flynn's experiences inside the computer inspiring him to make more games . . .

You could argue that it sounds like a semi-sequel to the game as well as the film, at this point. Nothing in the description seems to contradict what happened in the game.

And what the hell is an ISO? It sounds like it's inspired by LDSO, which is really cool!

Heh, I doubt it.

ISOs are disc images of programs. I'm guessing that by choosing that name, they're sort of having a bit of fun with the whole file sharing and piracy debate. Software should be free and shared freely (ISOs) vs. copyright restrictions and enforcement (CLU).

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Predictions:

-Reviews will be through the roof with positiveness.
-We will spazz out in the theater while watching this so much that we will have to go back 3-4 times to see what we missed.
-Disney will actually release Recognizer nightlights, WHICH I MUST OWN NAO.
-A Flynn's arcade will open up and replace the Starcade at Disneyland, as well as one in Florida at EPCOT. If not one of those areas, then likely Downtown Disney, which seems to make the most sense, themewise.
-Disney will release a video game for the movie, which will totally pwn, for the mere fact that it IS TRON, and the mere visual look and feel of TRON is just so freaking awesome that anything it's in is automatically awesome no matter how mediocre it is.
-Disney Interactive will release the sourcecode for TRON 2.0.

Okay, maybe not the last one, but ya never know. It'd be one heck of an awesome heart-winner for fans.

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That article puts me in a positive mood. That looks like a great plot (so hopefully the sources are valid).

That mothballed arcade thing really gives it a sense of nostalgy, needs some disney magic to the scene. (and yes, it would be great if you could find a Flynn's Arcade, featuring all classic arcades such as Pacman, donkey, galaga, moon cresta, space invaders etc, at Disneyland, a recreation of the entire building, but housed inside a main building, incl. a place across where you can eat pizza).

Not sure what those Light Jets are, I assume planes of some sort. (but there better be Tanks and Recognizers as well). Maybe they can switch off their power (light/afterburner), making them glide through air stealthy.

I like that fast-forward in time as well. But this means that Bruce/Jeff have to play different ages, and have to look a bit younger (in real world 89).

Flynn whizzing around in classic lightcycle, sounds cool. But have him have his own place in the Tron world (considering that he doesn't physically exist, nor hasn't existed in the real world for a long time). Like in that mountain in trailer (I liked the idea that he is a reclusive guru or prophet, having lived in the tron world for so long (in a hidden manner) in solitude, long hair/beardy, secretly planning something (there was a reason for his disappearence from the real world, lots of stuff happened in the mean time) using CLU avatar as a tool (controlling him by meditation, but he broke lose and went his own way, went mischievous), and flynn himself is only a mythological figure, or legend to ISOs/Tron inhabitants. his existance never proven, never physically seen, only stories about Flynn ('the one who made a better world by defeating MCP', and like messias, people believing he was still amongst them), and the 'gold cycle', and a profacy of his return. So at first there's Sean/ISOs search for Flynn, an explorational quest in itself. When they find him, he explains what happened/why he went back into tronwold/how things have evolved, he sorta disagrees to come along/or he can't because of the need of controlling/manipulating the world via his mind. Sean & co go out find followers/believers to expand/team up on their quest. Sean falls in love with girl (pink bike?). flynn appears near the end during a battle (he comes to the rescue on his gold cycle, saving all), and CLU turns out to be 'good'/cured. His avatar needs not be destroyed, making possible sequel possible, needs to end happy/open-ended).

I'm still curious about the world though, locations/encounters/background etc. Maybe there are places like The Edge (grids/areas ending up in black), or The Surreal (looking/behaving surreal with a certain logic, ancient stuff/routines can be found there: minotaur (hoverbot), chesspiece (trojan horse) etc., or The Blitz (city/industrial areas), The underground. I like that it has a realistic feel to it (the mountains/clouds/stars), would be nice if it had real water, and maybe wind physics (particles). And highways (those elevated above surface/monorail type, on poles or hover, metallic), interconnecting cities, enabling highspeed. Imagine driving on highway and transforming into jettype thing (only possible with enough speed). In fact, something like that clip from Jam & Spoon (another excess).

About the name: I still like the TR2N name (if it's one movie-end-all). OR Tron: Freescape.

edit: I have idea for that structure-thing in the beginning of trailer. They are called 'nodes', and they serve as reference points in the world (and make a humm noise as if electrical power volts through it). A place in the middle of nowhere, where roads cross.

edit 2: What if it ends with Sean & co having to invade/infiltrade some gouverning structure/tower/complex (citadel/fortress), starting from bottom, having to reach the top (cyber city odeo?). Have disc battles occur inside as well, lots of exploration of corridors/booby traps, passages/edges outside tower to reach higher. ISOs gathering from all over towards tower to accompany battle. Eventually Lightjets (assuming they are jetpack type things) spinning and swirling around during battle.

edit 3: If there's some sort of robot, make it a hoverbot, hovering over mazes, searching for you, square mouth that lights up, makes noise (prodigy-their law 2:32). Maybe MCP/Core is located in underground fortress. Portals, rare, mirror/doorway centered middle maze (enter coordinates, random number) instant travel to other parts/portal in universe. Ability to ride The Tube (running lightspeed close underneath surface). helicopters (circle for blades). Tanks/heli vs jet/cycle. Lasercable cars (cars hanging aside laser on 1 cornerlock).

isMetaClass Wrote:i didn't read the article but it seems that it's quite spoilerish. i remember this was brought up before and i think it's probably time we do something. i suggest creating a new news thread so we we have: TR2N News: SPOILERS ALLOWEDand TR2N News: NO SPOILERS ALLOWED that way people that don't want to know the whole story can still get some of the news. people that don't mind reading all the spoilers can give the rest of us a non-spoiler version of the news.

Does the forum have [ spoiler ] This is spoiler text here [ /spoiler ] tags? If not, they should be created, if possible.

A game is dangerous grounds. Especially if they want to release one at the same time as the release of the movie, and I esp. don't want the movie to be catered towards a game. I think it needs to have more development time, or a when-its-done thing. It deserves quality, and I don't care if it comes after the movie.

If you think about it, a game (the engine/world) is very minimalistic, compared to current trends that go for realism. Which means bigger worlds. I don't mind if it's level based (what it probably will be), but I can't stop dreaming about a generated world (but that would require procedural programming and a creative mind) in which the player is free to explore. It has to focus on cycles and 1st person exploring (and maybe driving tanks/recognizers).

The game is likely to be intended for consoles, so I don't see SDKs or mods happening either. All it needs to be is a solid balanced game (using latest 3d stereotopic tech, euphoria and raytrace maybe). But considering that current consoles don't support it yet, they might support it with next gen consoles (I assume that's within 4yr time). Ideally, I want a game that looks like the movie, same quality in graphics. That's definitely not gonna happen with this gen. of consoles, but we're close to achieving that reality if you ask me.

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If you're thinking game (keeping minimalism in mind, as well as scale of the world), you need to think of what elements make a game fun, in context with the world. So you need to have first person (walking/exporing, interior exporation/mazes like tron game), lightcycles (battles/races, option to switch off light/go normal, freeroam), lightjets (i'm thinking flightsim here, with airports/runways (incl watchtower) you can land/waypoints/carrier, shoot missiles/flare, option to turn off light/afterburner and go stealthy, visor turns into hud/heading, red). or jet only work within range of antenna/structure designated areas in the open (or disrupter-antena in cities, disabling cycles/jet altogether, not able fly over cities)., highways (makes good racing element possible, similar to speedracer or that Gorillaz clip, you can even tranform from cycle to jet while driving on highway, or land as cycle. no lighttrails on heighways, speedpads etc) interconnection cities/buildings (makes the world more real), buildings look more like earths building (corridors/elevators/levels/conveyor belts/slopes/escalator/liftplatforms) but have defense driods/boobytraps (forcefield blocked passages/dooways, one-way-no-back forcefields/disappearing floors). Tanks (have base/hangars), recognizers (guardians), carrier (strategy gameplay), rw hackers airtraffic control. Other than that the world can be very open/flat, like a desert with mainly elevated highways (stretched out for miles) running through it, an occasional structure/object/mountain/powerlines/reactors, canyons (powerdrome), random placement of cities/industry/military, and regular flat roads (interconnected through nodes, see earlier post) like you see in trailer. Tanks and recognizers mostly roam around main defense cities and underground mazes/passages/networks (Event Horizon 2 - Quake 3). The retro look & feel of those old low-poly flightsim/3D exporation type games, an abstract simulation of our world. As for locals/characters? What about cyberpunks (wearing helmets, as well as driving bikes of some sort, gang type), and cybernauts (wearing helmets, black visor/noface maybe circuitboard face, genious, never talk, capable of complex routines, earth equivilant of underground hacker/programmer, rare), and cybercops (driving through city/heighways, patrolling in hovercars (with 2 red/blue flashlights), maybe Nomads. Electro/crystal-dino's (stegosaurus) wandering around at open spaces (transparant blue,simply de-rez if drive through them, they just simulations). Not sure if there's day & night (without sun), but daytime atmosphere could be orange/red, while surface (which is normally black/reflective) world turns into a goldish/reflective colour (Jam & Spoon clip). Always thought gold/brown/orange/red has that futuristic mood to it.

Jademz Wrote: deadly_cookie Wrote:A game is dangerous grounds. Especially if they want to release one at the same time as the release of the movie, and I esp. don't want the movie to be catered towards a game. I think it needs to have more development time, or a when-its-done thing. It deserves quality, and I don't care if it comes after the movie. If you think about it, a game (the engine/world) is very minimalistic, compared to current trends that go for realism. Which means bigger worlds. I don't mind if it's level based (what it probably will be), but I can't stop dreaming about a generated world (but that would require procedural programming and a creative mind) in which the player is free to explore. It has to focus on cycles and 1st person exploring (and maybe driving tanks/recognizers). The game is likely to be intended for consoles, so I don't see SDKs or mods happening either. All it needs to be is a solid balanced game (using latest 3d stereotopic tech, euphoria and raytrace maybe). But considering that current consoles don't support it yet, they might support it with next gen consoles (I assume that's within 4yr time). Ideally, I want a game that looks like the movie, same quality in graphics. That's definitely not gonna happen with the gen. of consoles, but we're close to achieving that reality if you ask me. Don't be talking dirty, consoles? It's PC or peace out. lol.

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Would be interesting to see it being played crossed platforms on different OS's like Fedora red hat, Ubuntu linux, Sun Solaris and all playing against each other cross platformed of course in a multiplayer game. Heck even in a SGI O2 running irix on it. And that is using a RS5000 risc based processor.



Sorry for the rant just being too much of a techno hardware these days.

Jademz Wrote: deadly_cookie Wrote:A game is dangerous grounds. Especially if they want to release one at the same time as the release of the movie, and I esp. don't want the movie to be catered towards a game. I think it needs to have more development time, or a when-its-done thing. It deserves quality, and I don't care if it comes after the movie. If you think about it, a game (the engine/world) is very minimalistic, compared to current trends that go for realism. Which means bigger worlds. I don't mind if it's level based (what it probably will be), but I can't stop dreaming about a generated world (but that would require procedural programming and a creative mind) in which the player is free to explore. It has to focus on cycles and 1st person exploring (and maybe driving tanks/recognizers). The game is likely to be intended for consoles, so I don't see SDKs or mods happening either. All it needs to be is a solid balanced game (using latest 3d stereotopic tech, euphoria and raytrace maybe). But considering that current consoles don't support it yet, they might support it with next gen consoles (I assume that's within 4yr time). Ideally, I want a game that looks like the movie, same quality in graphics. That's definitely not gonna happen with the gen. of consoles, but we're close to achieving that reality if you ask me. Don't be talking dirty, consoles? It's PC or peace out. lol.

Traahn Wrote: TronFAQ Wrote: There aren't any SPOILER... Mouse Over To Read: tags, but there is a simple way to hide spoilers. Spoiler text here Just remove the spaces inside the tags, and you'd create a table with a black background and black text to hide what's in it. Can this info be added to the Forum FAQ page, perhaps? For quick/easy reference. http://www.tron-sector.com/forums/faq.aspx -Disney will release a video game for the movie, which will totally pwn, for the mere fact that it IS TRON, and the mere visual look and feel of TRON is just so freaking awesome that anything it's in is automatically awesome no matter how mediocre it is. With the move to 3-D for film (and a push for 3-D gaming soon enough), I think this game will be made and optimized for 3-D gameplay.

Or maybe, it'll be designed to work with that upcoming 3DHDTV Phillips is working on.