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digideus
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Re: TR2N News

on Monday, August, 04, 2008 5:20 AM
Seems like it. There's a thread about it on the Jeff Bridges website forum and he seems to have confirmed to one of the members that his next 2 projects are Crazy Hearts and Tron 2, although obviously, that's not canon until its all signed, sealed and delivered.

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Qix77
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Re: TR2N News

on Monday, August, 04, 2008 6:10 AM
lurkinghorror Wrote:
TronFAQ Wrote:I've chosen to accept AICN's word on this.


Careful. That site is only the tiniest step ahead of Jim Hill's.


I agree and yet don't.. lol... but I'm always a critical thinker and I'm glad you are too. This is always important when discerning information online (or tv for that matter).

I look at AICN as possibilities...

However, Jim Hill... psst... To be honest, I just think that he really needs to check his sources or at least post something stating "This is what my sources are saying." instead of trying to present it as fact..... and that is if he isn't just making up crap....

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simbeau
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Re: TR2N News

on Monday, August, 04, 2008 6:24 AM
lurkinghorror Wrote:Is it confirmed from any reliable source that Clu has returned?

The image of the yellow emblazoned warrior in the TR2N trailer standing over his defeated opponent and showing no mercy has created a great deal debate in various places on the net with everyone voicing their opinion of what "Not anymore." means. Although many of the theories are intriguing I'm leaning towards the possibility that we are overlooking a very likely scenario by trying to impose our own will as fans onto what we hope the film will be.

The general consensus is that the program is CLU, or a perhaps a newer version of CLU that has been corrupted by the same virus that was the macguffin in the TRON 2.0 game. The yellow/green glow of his uniform and his viciousness seem to lend credence to this theory except that the virus would attempt to spread itself if given the chance, not destroy another program.

Another theory holds that since CLU had been absorbed by the MCP he retained part of the MCP's motives and would carry out orders that had been imprinted on him during his imprisonment. A rather large assumption is made here that the programs the MCP took over are released back into the system after it was destroyed, but if that was true then the climactic moment of TRON getting his disc into the center of the MCP just before Dumont is derezzed is pointless. It's far more likely that if the MCP was to absorb and derezz a program, that program would be lost forever.

Still others are stating that it's a reloaded version of CLU that FLYNN put back into the system after being released. This one makes little sense to me because Flynn wrote the CLU program to search for evidence of his creation of the video games Dillinger has based his fortune on. Therefore, the program is no longer needed as Flynn is now the owner of the company and would have no reason to reinsert the program to search for anymore hidden information.

All of these ideas are based on a premise that the movie sequel will follow after the storyline of the video game but with the lack of sales that the game had the film makers just might ignore its mythology and jump directly to a newly imagined reality.

So, at this point the prudent thing is to ask yourself one question. How many tank programs did Flynn write?

Many.

CLU was not Flynn's the first tank operator program and was only the last attempt he made before he was digitized into the system, and it would have been foolish of the MCP to have destroyed or absorbed all of the trained tank drivers he had captured. In the original movie, SARK offers the captured blue programs a chance to change sides and become defenders of the MCP. Many of the early versions of the CLU program may have crossed over. The fact that the drivers weren't very accurate in their shooting could have been a result of the less developed version of the operating software.

After the MCP was destroyed, were the traitors derezzed? Probably not. The system was now supposed to be free and all programs would most likely have been able to operate unhindered by for the most part, but Flynn would still be in charge of them. The CLU programs were written to be information seekers and in that function Flynn may have used them as a "police" force, or a version of an antiviral program. The resulting dictatorship could have left Flynn in power but as a user he would have just been a figurehead to where the real power would have been: with the CLU programs themselves. With no real power over the CLU programs, Flynn would only be able to stand idly by and watch the system he had risked his life to save fall apart.
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Cam_the_Man
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Re: TR2N News

on Monday, August, 04, 2008 1:14 PM

What if... the reel at CC had nothing to do with the plot of the movie?


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TRON.dll: (Captures the intelligence) "I have take the intelligence and it will cause meltdown!"
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digideus
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Re: TR2N News

on Monday, August, 04, 2008 1:37 PM
Cam_the_Man Wrote: What if... the reel at CC had nothing to do with the plot of the movie?

I wondered about that, but if that was the case, why include Jeff Bridges? it may be nothing to do with the movie, but Jeff Bridges IS onside for the Tron2 movie, so it makes me wonder why you would go to the bother of making a concept reel that furthers the story along..

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TronFAQ
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Re: TR2N News

on Monday, August, 04, 2008 3:27 PM


lurkinghorror Wrote:Careful. That site is only the tiniest step ahead of Jim Hill's.
Yeah, I know. Heh.

But I agree with Qix. AICN is at least semi-reliable. While Jim Hill has proven that he likes to take rumors he hasn't verified, and present them as fact.

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Zenith
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on Monday, August, 04, 2008 6:31 PM
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TheReelTodd
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Re: TR2N News

on Monday, August, 04, 2008 6:40 PM
Zenith Wrote:LOL I'm not sure I'm convinced that the dude is Clu, but hey maybe he got disassembled and recompiled until we see the source code, I'll reserve my judgement

Greetings, Zenith and welcome to TRON-Sector!

My sources say that the guy on the light cycle that appears to be a "younger Flynn" or "CLU", is in fact a younger Jeff Bridges from the film Starman. One of Doc Brown's time traveling experiments went horribly wrong and transcended across films and ended up transporting Jeff Bridges characters from SEVEN different films in to various roles in the upcoming TRON sequel.

And for ONCE, I finally beat AICN to the punch!

Unfortunately, this punch is spiked with something and I'm just FULL of it!

A couple of threads you may want to hit are:

What's with your name?

And...

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TRON.dll
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Re: TR2N News

on Monday, August, 04, 2008 7:45 PM
Zenith Wrote:LOL I'm not sure I'm convinced that the dude is Clu, but hey maybe he got disassembled and recompiled until we see the source code, I'll reserve my judgement




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Qix77
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Re: TR2N News

on Monday, August, 04, 2008 8:30 PM
I have no clue if disney has Clu in mind (see what I did with that :P). However, those that made such an effort on the CC footage are obvious fans to go out of their way to do such an amazing production flick for Disney to GL it and allow them to show it at CC.... so no tell'n...

Here are my questions:


Is Tron in the film? (Wasn't in 2.0 but somehow it worked)

Will we see Lori/Yori?

Is there any part of the movie related to 2.0/comics?

THERE MUST BE RECONIZERS (not a question but still).

Will disney release the rights for an arcade style game again?

How much of the film with been CGI vs. Real life?

Will there be an powerful A.I. like the MCP (staring Jim Hill lol)?

Will Flynn have a son/daughter/wife?

How much wood could a woodchuck wood if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

Will I ever score a date with Christina Applegate?




See I gotz questions....







 
Cam_the_Man
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Re: TR2N News

on Monday, August, 04, 2008 10:17 PM
Qix77 Wrote:
THERE MUST BE RECONIZERS (not a question but still).

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In the midst of Team Fortress 2:
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Cam_the_Man: "No! Not all of Dallas!"
 
Jademz
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on Monday, August, 04, 2008 10:26 PM
simbeau Wrote:

After the MCP was destroyed, were the traitors derezzed? Probably not. The system was now supposed to be free and all programs would most likely have been able to operate unhindered by for the most part, but Flynn would still be in charge of them. The CLU programs were written to be information seekers and in that function Flynn may have used them as a "police" force, or a version of an antiviral program. The resulting dictatorship could have left Flynn in power but as a user he would have just been a figurehead to where the real power would have been: with the CLU programs themselves. With no real power over the CLU programs, Flynn would only be able to stand idly by and watch the system he had risked his life to save fall apart.

The thought is plausible. However the larger part of the identity on Encom is what exactly did the data mining MCP cause to Encom, it's future, and every company's networks/computers that he destroyed/upgraded. and the thought that it was reversible is impossible to percieve if you think the possibility of crippling computers around the world is going un-noticed by everyone and everything affected.

MCP would have had to upgrade every program to make them talk. It would have to be a full on conspiracy, or possibly Encom had programming sold to these companies, and MCP was coincidental. Either way making sense of a plot that re-imagines Tron is a serious mistake. It would require adding ghost programming to make everyone believe things are their PC is the same, and a plot to actually be able to execute control over something that is being overly emphasized, that being what is the level of his intrusion, how well did full derezolution affect those programs coerced, and how did flynn reorganize and fare after being in this environment first hand.

A interpretation you used, your application Clu Antivirus is promoted to police the MCP basecoded networks/computers or perhaps just EN511, so thier being quarantined to EN511, caught and dealt with in those terms, leaves alot of unexplained material.. such as what their main purpose is. Encom is a scientific institution in full effect, but makes games. We need to understand this fully.. not rewrong it.

When explaining what programs did afterward, affects exactly what the main thematic theories proves, so does all software just change feelings and not volume of data? These dynamics have to be explained, not internalized into some version of rationality. The purpose of science is at stake in the plot, and influences how well this visual will fill a audience of computer geeks. (learning)

However, whether Flynn stayed or left the Encom facility, the plot must say: The MCP influence was quarantined, caught and dealt with or not. So a enemy will fill in some crap that needs to be faked in. sigh.. but I am interested in full version TR2N. Not the alpha.

Perhaps by copying the programs this circumstance went unnoticed, perhaps the MCP was mainly isolated and now allowed to talk to computers enough to prepare a complete rewriting of their wares to operate in a concealed system. fine... but containing my thought of who and what worked is gonna be worth it to me. Geeks are counting on the real deal. As the plot turns. I hope there's NO useless reason in the plot on purpose or otherwise.. I hope this is more important, than to destroy what I've learned of and about Tron, and computer sciences.

.. just a small thought on plot twists, and lack thereof.


 
Traahn
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Re: TR2N News

on Monday, August, 04, 2008 11:08 PM



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Qix77
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Re: TR2N News

on Tuesday, August, 05, 2008 2:48 AM
Cam_the_Man Wrote:
Qix77 Wrote:
THERE MUST BE RECONIZERS (not a question but still).

And not those crappy tugs, we mean the kind that fly around, make those freaky noises, and try to squash you like a


See... we both are on the same page... Not tugs... we need the combat ready Recognizers.

Do you hear us 'people making TR2N'? We have to have recognizers... .... Tie-figher is to StarWars as Recognizers are to Tron....

...oh.. and bits too..


 
TRON.dll
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Re: TR2N News

on Tuesday, August, 05, 2008 6:38 AM
You know, I just realized something:

Considering the fact that the guy directing this movie has only previously done really beutiful advertisements, I don't think we'll have to worry about any problems in the advertisement film. I've never seen TRON on the big screen, and I really want to, so an in theatre trailer would probably make me have a heart attack, and a telivision ad would probably make me freak out every time.

And as for people wondering when it'll come out and/or we'll see more footage, READ MY PREVIOUS POSTS! I have said this multiple times:

Disney said:The next time you'll see footage of TR2N or hear official news or announcements about it will be next year (2009), closer to the film's release.

Does that mean the film is coming out in '09? Probably not. If it's coming out in '10 or '11, then what Disney said isn't neccisarilly a lie, 2009 is technically closer to 2010/2011 than 2008 is. It's very likely that we could be seeing some first theatrical trailers for TR2N. To be honest, I would be willing to see any Disney movie in a theatre, no matter how crappy it is or how uninteresting the plot is to me, just to see a trailer for TR2N in theatres.

Also, try and think of the comic-con trailer for TR2N as the NATO trailer on the 20th Anniversery Supplemental Features disk.


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DaveTRON
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on Tuesday, August, 05, 2008 10:02 AM
Traahn Wrote:
DaveTRON wrote:Bonnie MacBird should be forgotten in the TRON world. My POV. She's not been part of the TRON world since 1981.
I might be taking your comment out of context, or maybe not? Hopefully not. I don't think we should forget about Bonnie unless she had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Tron. I think she co-wrote Tron, though, so her long time absence from Tron shouldn't mean we boot her from the Tron world. We should only forget about Bonnie if Steven and other reputable sources say Bonnie had nothing to do with Tron. We've heard David Warner doesn't really care for Tron (... or something like that). If he hasn't had anything to do with Tron since 1982 does that mean we should forget about him and his contributions? My apologies if I was incorrectly taking your quote too literally...

I agree she should maintain her historical credits for TRON. They were given to her, and that's that. Was she a driving creative force on TRON? In my opinion no.

I was primarily reacting to someone's suggestion to bring her back for TR2N. Based on the few things I know of her, that is one of the worst suggestions ever in the TRON world.

I will not elaborate any further than to say she is not necessary to the TRON world in any way.

DaveTRON

 
Cam_the_Man
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on Tuesday, August, 05, 2008 12:08 PM

One thing, I'd really like to see a Solar Sailer of some sort, even if it's updated beyond recognition. (I hope not)


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TRON.dll: (Captures the intelligence) "I have take the intelligence and it will cause meltdown!"
Cam_the_Man: "No! Not all of Dallas!"
 
digideus
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Re: TR2N News

on Tuesday, August, 05, 2008 12:28 PM
OK, heres the list from the previous posts

THINGS TO INCLUDE IN TR2N

Light Cycles
Identity Discs
Solar Sailer
Reconizers
bits/bytes
program colors


how about THINGS NOT TO INCLUDE IN TR2N?




 
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on Tuesday, August, 05, 2008 12:47 PM
digideus Wrote:THINGS TO INCLUDE IN TR2N

Light Cycles
Identity Discs
Solar Sailer
Reconizers
bits/bytes
program colors

How could the tank not make it on this list? In keeping with the dark tone of the trailer...


Carl


 
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on Tuesday, August, 05, 2008 1:09 PM
Nice.


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