So, has anyone watched the first two episodes of Sarah Connor Chronicles yet? I'm surprised Fox aired two episodes back-to-back. With the writer's strike on, it means they'll run out of episodes that much sooner.

Opinions on the show seem pretty polarized, almost 50/50. Some people love it, other people hate it. I happen to fall into the "love it" category.

Sure, it's not perfect. There were some cheesy moments. But overall, the people working on the show seem to "get it". Terminator was always about intense characters, humor, and good action sequences. The producers and writers have managed to nail almost all of them. Much better than the crapfest that is the new Bionic Woman.

Some of the people working on the show were involved with the Terminator films, and the rest used to work on the X-Files. So these people have a pretty good pedigree, and it's why I'm not surprised the show has turned out pretty decent. Better than I was hoping, actually.

There was really only a couple of things that I thought were stupid, and kind of put a damper on the show for me. Both happened in the second epsiode.



*** SPOILER WARNING FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T SEEN THE SHOW YET - STOP READING NOW! ***

When John went to that computer store, the product placement was blatantly done. They were advertising for Windows Vista, Dell laptops, and Apple TV. I'm pretty sure there was one more product placement somewhere in there, too. If you're going to do placements, at least try to make them subtle. So many at once made it painfully obvious.

The other problem was with the headless Terminator. The head somehow activated the body, which was sitting somewhere in a garbage dump. Then the body went and found the head. How the hell could the head remotely activate the body like that?

And what's a Terminator endoskeleton doing in a garbage dump? It's the one Sarah shot in the vault. But its head came through the time displacement. Funny . . . I thought "nothing dead" would go through? But I'll let that slide. So if the authorities found the endoskeleton, you'd think they'd take it somewhere to be researched? Not thrown in a trash heap.

But the worst part for me, is how the endoskeleton could find the head without being able to see? WTF? Stupid, stupid, stupid.

The writer could have come up with a much better idea than that. Come on. How about the garbage collector who found the head sold it, and it eventually found its way to authorities? And then some over-eager scientist tried attaching the head to the body they found in the vault? Still would have been a bit cheesy, but not as lame as what we got instead.


Still . . . except for those two moments, I'm digging Sarah Connor Chronicles.

Ok.. I just got done watching both online at Fox.com...

Ok.. the 'finding his head' was rather cheezey but it was cool having that guy lift his visor.. lol...

The 'Vista' ordeal does make sense, because if you remember the cyborg sent them from 1999 to 2007 using that machine at the bank.

Really good show. In fact I was really impressed because usually shows like this becomes a fluke and don't last the first season.. I sure hope this one lasts. I'll be watching it tonight. abortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion

I think it stinks. I watched the first two and I think that's it for me.

1) They're crapping all over established canon of the Terminator universe. What I mean is Kyle Reese gets sent back to fight a terminator with nothing but his bare hands when this whole time a "super terminator killing gun" was in a bank vault somewhere? And since when are terminator's stupid? The terminators I know would have gone into a classroom and blown everyone away including John Conner... not posed as a teacher and made a big rukus allowing John to escape.

2) I am tired of the teenage girl terminator. It's not cute, and the fights with her are boring and unbelievable.

3) John Connor is a whiny wimp and I honestly don't find myself caring if a Terminator offs him.


No thanks...

I'm got the first couple of episodes of this show recorded on my DVR but haven't had the chance to watch them yet. I'll try to watch at least the pilot tonight.

Actually, FOX did advertised it a lot...on their NFL games. At some point, during every football game and every odd commercial break during those games, they plugged the show. However, aren't they advertising to the wrong audience? I mean, most of the football guys I know don't care for the sci-fi stuff I crave.

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TronFAQ Wrote: But . . . you have to understand. T3 has already screwed everything up. The damage has been done.

Amen to that.

Qix77 Wrote:.... and that is what I think ruined it.

That, and when they started making Terminators out of wrinkled leather

I didn't get what the painted doors was suppose to mean? Did the student have an affair with a teacher or something?

Anyways... What I think is a really neat concept is that there are two bad T-1000s (they haven't met yet), A freedom fighter from the future (spying on the Conners), and the chic cyborg trying to not blow their cover.

It's a good formula and one we haven't seen in the movies yet. Apparently they took production seriously like Fox did with 24... Only thing is that the last season of 24 wasn't that good (yet.. I'm a 24 nut).

Ok, I got the wife to let me record the show on our DVR last night. She gave up one of her regular shows to let me do so, so that was pretty cool of her (she's really in to her shows). It's the 3rd episode and I haven't had time to watch the first two online yet, so I hope I'm not going to be too lost.

I'm guessing the main premise of the show is basically like the films to some extent - survive and outwit the Terminators sent back in the past from the (somewhat messed up timeline of the) future. If they do that relatively intelligently, I'll probably dig the show. I'll find out later tonight.

Just an idea - wouldn't it be cool if Sarah Conner had a run in with the (current) real-life governor of California during one of the shows?


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The wife and I watched episode 3 together last night. Neither one of us had seen the first two episodes, so we were grateful for the quick recap of previous events. It kind of brought us up to speed, more or less.

*** SPOILERS FOLLOW ***

So, they killed off Sarah Conner and replaced her with a Sarahinator, huh?



Just seeing if anyone who hasn't seen it yet would read beyond the spoiler warning.

In a nutshell, I enjoyed the show. It was ok - not great, but ok. I think I would have enjoyed it more if I had seen the first two episodes first. This one seemed like the slow episode - like a wind-down and catch-your-breath episode after two more action-packed and intense story episodes. Am I right there?

A few thoughts. Sarah Connor looks nothing like the original - I was initially disappointed in that. But the actress plays her very well, so that helped off-set my disappointment. I accept her as the role pretty well after a single episode... her and her real British accent that shows through here and there. . Seriously - she plays the part well and her American accent is very good too. Days ago I heard someone talking about her being British and so listened for it and indeed caught it at times. The protector terminator is... well... let's just say I really liked her a hot... er, I mean I liked her a lot. She seems to do the terminator schtick fairly good, but to be honest, she's just a lot of fun to look at. I hate to admit it, but that does help a mediocre show seem that much better (not that this show is mediocre - I don't know enough about it yet to say that). I can't wait to see her kick some ass. Something about hot chicks kicking ass is just a lot of fun. She's not the hottest out there or anything, but definitely easy on the eyes.

The cheese factor. Pretty much all TV shows have them to some extent. I can live with it, but sometimes it also dampens the experience if it seems too over the top.

When Sarah Connor says at the end of the show "We're all bitches now", I shouldn't have the uncontrollable urge to laugh out loud... but I did. It was supposed to be serious and set the mood and tone of the show. Instead it was corny and caused me to bust out laughing. IN fact, I liked the line so much, it was the last thing I said to my wife before going to sleep last night! No joke! Ahh crap - I'm laughing again now! So I loved the line, but I loved it because it was so damn cheesy, as in just bad. They'll need to watch that stuff because it just doesn't feel right. Not to me anyway. This ain't no comedy and that wasn't a punchline.

Hold on a moment - I'm going to run in to the living room and say that to my wife again...

Ok, she just shook her head and went back to watching her TV show. That means "leave me alone, I'm watching TV and you're not as funny as you think you are".

As a whole, I enjoyed the show. The wife did too, but not as much as I did. Perhaps there wasn't enough eye-candy in the show for her.

Production quality seemed good. There was some shaky-cam crap, but not too much and it seemed to be in there to accent only certain more gritty scenes. I guess I can deal with that.

I'll probably watch the remaining shows. I can see this having the potential to turn in to a really good show, and I can also see this slipping in to crap-ville if not properly handed, isn't that right, bitch-whore? Sorry - that cracked me up too, but that one was supposed to. The whole "I have a metal plate in my head" was funny too, again intentionally so and it worked for me.

TronFAQ Wrote:And man, are you lucky to have such a cool wife. That was really nice of her to give up one of her shows for you. Hope I marry a woman who's just as generous and cool.

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