MutoidMan
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Posts: 2,232 | Re: Robosapien V2
on Tuesday, April, 25, 2006 3:09 PM
I would love to program it with Bender's voice so it could walk around saying "Kill all humans!"
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on Tuesday, April, 25, 2006 4:59 PM
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TheReelTodd
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on Tuesday, April, 25, 2006 6:32 PM
Qix77 Wrote:...By the way... I downloaded your video and loved it. It's really funny and yet amazing. The only concern I have is how he walks. In the video he looks like he is waddeling instead of walking... but even at that, it's still impressive. I want one, and might get one someday.  |
Yeah - he waddles more than he actually walks. The problem is he doesn't really have knees. The knees you see are more like decorations that move a little with his feet, but there are no real (human like) knee joints or range of movement. It relies on shifting its weight back and forth as the feet move front and back. Turning is very awkward looking as well. He... it... (whatever) has to kind of do a twist motion with his arms and upper body to help turn. It's tricky to get him walking around with any fluidity of movement. He doesn't walk very straight either - so you have to turn him right or left after a few feet to correct for that if you want to continue to head in a straight line.
I've been watching videos of the first Robosapien. The little guy also waddles, but seems to walk a little better and move about with more ease and speed. RSV2 is a slow walker/waddler and seems to move more awkward than RSV1. If only I could reprogram his walking routine, I'm sure he could be made to walk more efficiently and even faster with his existing mechanisms. I think they could have done a better job on the walking routine.
Like I said - as a robot, it is disappointing. But it still has its charm and does some cool things. For a techno-nerd like me, I had to have one. I love robots and this one has a lot of cool features in a small package. He's no Asimo, but I'm learning more about him... or plan to learn more about him (when I can find some time to actually get in to it). I've already learned about a free open-source program that allows you to program him one move at a time via the free software and something called a USB UIRT (USB infa-red transmitter). It can send signals that RSV2 will understand and that sounds really cool. The down side is the UIRT costs another $40.00. It's just a teeny little thing with the diodes of a TV remote control and a USB cable - why so much? Oh well - tech toys ain't cheap. But I think I'll be getting one of those soon.
Hey - I dropped $200.00 plus extended warranty on this guy. I'm damn well going to get every little piece of coolness I can squeeze out of him! 
 
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TheReelTodd
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on Tuesday, April, 25, 2006 6:36 PM
Tori Wrote:*Huggs Robosapien* You're such a CUTE little thing! Yes you are! 
I really want one of those... |
Well, save up your pennies - they ain't cheap! But they are fun to play with and learn. Believe it or not, there is a "hug" function built in to it. Pressing a combination of keys on his remote control (which resembles a PS2 remote) makes him put his arms out and say something about a "group hug". He's got a lot of cool built-in things like that.
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TheReelTodd
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on Tuesday, April, 25, 2006 6:39 PM
MutoidMan Wrote:I would love to program it with Bender's voice so it could walk around saying "Kill all humans!"
If you get the chrome model, it could also say "Kiss my shiny metal ass!" |
 
There are a lot of people hacking these robots to do all kinds things they can't do out of the box. I bet it is only a matter of time before we see one talking with Bender audio samples and giving funny gestures.
This thing really has a lot of potential... but you have to know how to hack and modify it to get it all out. Unfortunately, I do not.
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Qix77
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Posts: 2,991 | Re: Robosapien V2
on Thursday, April, 27, 2006 4:05 AM
Cool deal, Todd.... The waddle/walk is still cool. It must be hard to make a robot that walks on two feet and sell it well..
I read up on the 2.5 version (built in music player and can play videos too), but they were talking about a 3.0 verion on some site. Looks like I'll be aming for that.... but from what I hear, Wow Wee wants to move away from the remote controller. Don't know why that is. Anyways, such a cool robot. I still might get it... and a cool hacking comuinty too...  order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill
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TheReelTodd
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on Thursday, April, 27, 2006 7:35 PM
Qix77 Wrote:Cool deal, Todd.... The waddle/walk is still cool. It must be hard to make a robot that walks on two feet and sell it well..
I read up on the 2.5 version (built in music player and can play videos too), but they were talking about a 3.0 verion on some site. Looks like I'll be aming for that.... but from what I hear, Wow Wee wants to move away from the remote controller. Don't know why that is. Anyways, such a cool robot. I still might get it... and a cool hacking comuinty too... |
You know, I heard about the Robosapien V2.5, or "R2 Media" version as they call it. Initially, I thought it was a RSV2 with a built in MP3 player, or like a walking iPod or something. Nothing major there.
But I read more about it today. The RSV2 Media version seems like it has EVERYTHING I wish MY RSV2 has but does not!
I wish I could program my RSV2 via hooking it up to the computer. The RSV2 Media has that ability.
I wish I could tell what the hell my RSv2 was seeing through his camera. The RSV2 Media has a screen on his chest and you can see EXACTLY what he sees! How cool is that? You can even record MPEG clips with him and store them on a removable thingie (I forget what they call those - the flash cards that go in digital cameras).
This new Media version can also play music. You can also record you OWN voice samples and have RSV2 Media use YOUR voice in his programming! Did I mention you can actually program him via your computer and a USB hook up?
Man - this thing sounds WAY cooler than what I've got. I almost wish I had waited.
And of course, RSV3 will be coming out sometime in 2007. This one is rumored to be at least THREE feet tall, and will work via his built in AI and vocal command. That is why there is no need for a controller - you can talk to it and it will obey! They're working on some kind of personal GPS system for his navigation. It's like GPS, but only for your house - so he can know where to find the kitchen to fetch you a beer, etc. Supposedly, this RSV3 will actually be able to "help out around the house". So it looks like the next generation will indeed be more robot than toy.
Of course, expect it to double or triple in price as well. But if they do a good job on it, I bet I end up with one!
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Qix77
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Posts: 2,991 | Re: Robosapien V2
on Thursday, April, 27, 2006 11:35 PM
I read up on the USB port for 2.5 and I think it is sort of a bow-of-respect to those hacking the robot since it seems to make Robosapien V2 more popular.... or maybe it was something they had planed a long time ago... Nevertheless, it is a really good mood...
As for 3.0... If all the rummors are ture, then your right... It will be rather costly. I still would like to have a controller but if Wow Wee is so confident that it will fuction well with speech recognition, then it would be a really good move. What an impressive company so far.
Todd, I'm a lot like you. I really am looking so forward to the future of home robotics and AI tech that it is crazy. There is something soooooooo amazing about the technoligy, and seeing it being developed before our eyes in this day and age, that I have never been so excited before. With all the past disapointments with robotics and AI... it's a really good feeling that everything is comming together even though it's in small stages. What an awesome site to behold.
Ever since Elsa for the Commodore 64 (and SAM's voice abilties for the same computer) back in the 80's, it really got my attention and gave me a glimps of what I really wanted out of modren tech... but I was so dissapointed that these things were more of illiusions than anything. However, to see the parlor's tricks slowly fade away and to see that others are so serious in making AI and Robotics possible (and have some success) makes me so greatful to live in this day and age....
But I don't believe in cybornetics.... well, I do to a point... I'm so against bio-chips... That is a discussion for another day.
*ok qix.. hold your exciment* lol
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TheReelTodd
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on Friday, April, 28, 2006 6:28 PM
| Qix77 Wrote:I read up on the USB port for 2.5 and I think it is sort of a bow-of-respect to those hacking the robot since it seems to make Robosapien V2 more popular.... or maybe it was something they had planed a long time ago... Nevertheless, it is a really good mood... |
Yep - VERY good move! Too bad they didn't do this with the RSV2. That was one of my biggest disappointments with the RSV2. That, and the lack of real automous functionality (walking in circles repeatedly and starring at the stove doesn't count).
| Qix77 Wrote:As for 3.0... If all the rummors are ture, then your right... It will be rather costly. I still would like to have a controller but if Wow Wee is so confident that it will fuction well with speech recognition, then it would be a really good move. What an impressive company so far. |
I'm pretty sure they'll pull it off so that the robot works just fine via voice command and self-navigation. At least I hope they do. Of course, it will cost more to do so - but if it works well, I'll probably get one... even if it means a few extra months on my credit card. 
| Qix77 Wrote:Todd, I'm a lot like you. I really am looking so forward to the future of home robotics and AI tech that it is crazy. There is something soooooooo amazing about the technoligy, and seeing it being developed before our eyes in this day and age, that I have never been so excited before. With all the past disappointments with robotics and AI... it's a really good feeling that everything is coming together even though it's in small stages. What an awesome site to behold. |
Yeah - technology ROCKS! And the robots and droids we all fell in love with as kids, are finally starting to emerge out of the fantasy world of TV and film, and in to our homes in a very real way. The trick is making them affordable to us regular folk.
| Qix77 Wrote:But I don't believe in cybornetics.... well, I do to a point... I'm so against bio-chips... That is a discussion for another day. |
You and I differ there, but that's cool. We all got our personal interests. I love the thought of being able to interface with technology directly via my mind - be it an implant or some kind of digital telepathy (for lack of a better term).
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TheReelTodd
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on Friday, April, 28, 2006 7:36 PM
Ahhh...
Sorry for the interruption. It was WELL worth it though! 
Where was I...
Oh yeah, I'm looking forward to the great advancements that will be made in the cybernetics field. No need to fear it. If you don't dig it - you can choose to not have it as part of your life. We all have a choice.
As for robots... I just can't wait to see where they go in the next few years.
Though I'd love a RSV2 Media robot and might even consider getting one (depending on price and if the wife will let me), I also have to consider all the things the RSV2.5 won't be able to do. It won't walk with any more agility than RSV2 - it will still waddle all over. It probably won't turn with any more fluidity than RSV2. It probably won't have much more autonomy or AI built in to it than RSV2, though I am very curious about how programmable it will be.
One thing is for sure though - I am VERY curious about RSV3. Will it be all people are speculating it will be? I sure hope so!
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Qix77
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Posts: 2,991 | Re: Robosapien V2
on Monday, May, 01, 2006 11:13 PM
Cybernetics just rings bells of the book "1984"... well... sort of...
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TheReelTodd
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on Tuesday, May, 02, 2006 6:54 PM
| Qix77 Wrote:Cybernetics just rings bells of the book "1984"... well... sort of... |
I'm a familiar with 1984, but never saw the whole thing. Were there actually cyborgs in it?
| Qix77 Wrote:Anyways... Long live the robots... and Pinbot... and the bride of pinbot.... and Pinbot's cousin, Jake Pinbot... and their uncle, Hank Pinbot... who married a Japaneese lady known as Yori Pinbot... who are related to Pimp-Bot... Who just happens to be shareing a house with R2D2 and Bender.... |
Wow - you sound a little...
| Qix77 Wrote:Ok... I'm drunk... |
Yep - that's what I was thinking!
** raises drink **
Here's to you and my younger years of drunken fun!
Should I have my Omnibot fetch more drinks?
BTW - I do own a vintage 80's Omnibot. His battery pack is no longer functional and he's covered with the dust of many years of neglect, but he's in otherwise good condition.
Perhaps I should get Omnibot and Robosapien V2 together and see what happens?
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MutoidMan
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Posts: 2,232 | Re: Robosapien V2
on Wednesday, May, 03, 2006 11:36 AM
"We are, after all, not God." - Cmdr. J. J. Adams
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TheReelTodd
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on Wednesday, May, 03, 2006 6:30 PM
| MutoidMan Wrote:Wouldn't it be cool if it could play Atari with you? |
That would be awesome!
Me and the wife are STILL playing Atari Centipede together almost daily - she just whopped my butt scoring 95,000 to my pitiful 15,000. She made fun of me heartily afterward as well. That was a little embarrassing, but I can't blame her. I sucked tonight!
A robot that could actually play Atari USING the Atari controllers - not that would just be sweet!
If you think about it, the brightly colored, blocky graphics of an Atari game should be no problem for a robot to be programmed to follow and learn to interact with. Getting the robot's hands agile enough to master a controller might be the tricky part.
I doubt RSV3 will be able to play video games, but perhaps RSV5 or RSV6 might. There was talk of RSV4 being actual human sized, but I don't think it will be sophisticated enough to play video games - at least not like this.
As for my RSV2, I had to pick up new D cell batteries for it today. He's got quite an appetite for batteries. A week and a half, and the old ones were noticeably weak and he was having trouble moving around.
Yesterday, I FINALLY got him to recognize me as a human! Of course the first thing he said was "Ahh - a primitive life form." It was rather funny actually - I wasn't expecting that. He also asked for a high-5, and then pulled his robotic hand away before I could high-5 him.
Turns out, the more time spent with this guy, the more he grows on me. He was initially a disappointment, but now I'm over the fact that he's not nearly as autonomous as I expected. He's... its, whatever - it is a toy robot, not a super-android. For a toy robot, it's really pretty cool.
His color camera needs a lot of light to correctly identify things like his green bowling ball, his red bowling pins, the color blue, and humans. He seems to like blue objects - if he sees something blue, he usually asks to hold it and then says "If I see something blue, I'm putting this down." I guess he likes to keep his blues together. Maybe it's a robot thing.
It took a while to figure out exactly where to hold objects in front of his face, where he can properly identify them. There's a very small area where he will identify colors and if you don't hold the object right there WITH the proper lighting, he'll just see something and start "tracking" it.
I want to make a short production video with my RSV2 - something with a little TRON feel to it as well. I've got an idea in mind, but not sure exactly how to make it work as a short, self-contained production. Perhaps I'll just make a fake movie trailer - something that doesn't need to make sense. Or perhaps I'll do nothing, since I have almost no free time to do anything with each week.  But I think it would be cool to use the robot in some kind of little production. Damn! Why oh why must I spend so many hours each day at work? Oh yeah... bills and stuff. Oh well.
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Qix77
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Posts: 2,991 | Re: Robosapien V2
on Thursday, May, 04, 2006 8:33 PM
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TheReelTodd
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on Sunday, May, 07, 2006 4:31 PM
Qix77 Wrote:I remember Omnibot vagely, but I do remember. I think it would be really funny to try to see what happens if you introduced RSV3 to Omnibot... I would so die laughing if RSV3 said, "Hi Grandpa" to Omnibot. That would be worth it's weight in gold... lol
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Well, we'll have to wait for the RSV3 before we can try that trick. Who knows - maybe it will recognize Omnibot as its elder.
I've actually thought about doing a little gag video with RSV2 and Omnibot. Perhaps have them do RSV2's dance routine. Omnibot doesn't have that kind of range of motion, but I could get him to do the dance via some stop motion... more or less, anyway.
I'm actually working on a RSV2 video project right now. Something very short - probably only a minute or two in length. I shot the live action on Friday, and started editing Saturday. And of course, it looks like I'll have to re-shoot some stuff (even though it's just a few basic shots total) and then I'll get to spend weeks or perhaps months in post with visual FX. It's not easy having to do all this myself... but IF I finish it (and that's a BIG "if"), it should be cool. Did I mention it's TRON oriented as well? RSV2 and TRON - now just how would that work? Hmmm - perhaps in a few months, you all see exactly how. Or perhaps I'll scrap the project (like I have so many others) when it doesn't turn out as well as hoped. I'm really picky.
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NoExcuses
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Posts: 1,760 | Re: Robosapien V2
on Sunday, May, 07, 2006 4:34 PM
TheReelTodd Wrote:Or perhaps I'll scrap the project (like I have so many others) when it doesn't turn out as well as hoped. I'm really picky.
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You can't do that on us! How would we live?!
Well, robots and TRON sound like a cool combination, and I hope that you do get this movie done eventually!
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TheReelTodd
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on Sunday, May, 07, 2006 5:04 PM
NoExcuses Wrote:You can't do that on us! How would we live?!
Well, robots and TRON sound like a cool combination, and I hope that you do get this movie done eventually! |
Hey - thanks man!
I appreciate those very kind words.
Part of the reason I scrap projects is I have high expectations of my work. When I do not meet a certain level of professionalism in my work, I do not show it to anyone. It becomes a failed project and ends up on the digital cutting room floor of oblivion (like the video of that name almost did). Generally, if I watch what I've created and don't totally hate it, I'll put it on my site. Of course, even the things I do complete are not always all that slick - it really depends on the opinions of those who view my work.
This particular project is very short. The reason is I have so little time to devote to this kind of thing. I LOVE working on creative projects, but time is the elusive beast in my life. So I have made it a point to keep things very small.
If this gets completed, it will probably be more like a film trailer than an actual film. To make a whole film would take me years (even a short film). But to make a film trailer might only take me months, and I might actually be able to finish it and show it to the world, as opposed to trying to bite off more than I can chew and scrapping it.
I hope this project works out. It's really just an excuse for me to use my RSV2 and play with a particular visual effect I've been wanting to do for a long time now.
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