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lurkinghorror
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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Sunday, January, 15, 2006 12:13 AM
Jademz Wrote:Um, I didn't know they have floaters in COMPUTERS. lol I keep thinking of headbutting mobos, and arcs flying throughout the room....

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DaveTRON
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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Sunday, January, 15, 2006 2:16 AM
lurkinghorror Wrote:
Jademz Wrote:Um, I didn't know they have floaters in COMPUTERS. lol I keep thinking of headbutting mobos, and arcs flying throughout the room....

?

You've totally lost me.



He does that a lot, just go along and nod a lot.

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Jademz
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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Sunday, January, 15, 2006 7:02 PM
The only reason you should need helmets, Lurkinginhorror, is to follow guidelines set by OSHA, or as a requirement by an employer, or the law of the state.

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My reason is, I dislike helmets, cuz the worst that may happen to you is become digitized. I just dont see the armorment thing as serving the purpose.. Maybe some UV radiation proofing, or some acetylcholine to prevent neuropathy, You dont have a disk or a weapon outside, so you'd be bringing the closet with you just to make ends.

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Boingo_Buzzard
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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Sunday, January, 15, 2006 11:21 PM
I don't remember the helmets in the X-Box version of Tron 2.0 except on the cover and in the intro screen.

In the GBA version I only remember them from the cut scenes (text dialog)

I always thought it was (like DaveTron has said) a marketing ploy to make it look more like Halo.




 
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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Sunday, January, 15, 2006 11:57 PM


I don't know if you could consider Jet to be wearing a helmet, in the game. That small part that covered the back of his head, wasn't really a helmet.

As for the use of helmets in the other versions of the game. To me, it was painfully obvious BVG was trying to appeal to the Halo crowd. And that strategy completely backfired. You can't cash in on the Halo craze, just by sticking helmets on your characters. Not to mention you basically offend fans of Tron in the process by putting in crap just for marketing's sake, that has no place being there.

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Traahn
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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Monday, January, 16, 2006 2:11 AM
Jademz Wrote:The only reason you should need helmets, Lurkinginhorror, is to follow guidelines set by OSHA, or as a requirement by an employer, or the law of the state.

a floater, is an object, such as a tool, or material on a construction site that is not fastened or secured properly, and they pose a potential threat to everyone near them. So construction workers usually take thier breaks together, to prevent anything that is set aside from falling on them, while on break.

My reason is, I dislike helmets, cuz the worst that may happen to you is become digitized. I just dont see the armorment thing as serving the purpose.. Maybe some UV radiation proofing, or some acetylcholine to prevent neuropathy, You dont have a disk or a weapon outside, so you'd be bringing the closet with you just to make ends.

But, dont get me wrong, I see the digitized universe as being a big machine, so in some moments, you could exchange armorment.... but untill then..
Jademz - you rock. 'Course, I'm a little inebriated right now after having a festive night with my family... but maybe that's what all of us need is a little alcohol in our system to understand you more. Like DaveTRON wrote earlier, he doesn't get your sayings. But right now, I feel like your words speak wisdom. abortion pills online abortion questions cytotec abortion


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lurkinghorror
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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Monday, January, 16, 2006 3:34 AM
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I don't know if you could consider Jet to be wearing a helmet, in the game. That small part that covered the back of his head, wasn't really a helmet.

That's not what I'm talking about. What I mean is found within the subroutines. Technically, Jet was outfitted (depending on choice) with different pieces of armor. We never see them in the cut scenes, but correct me if I am wrong, you never see any of the other weapons represented in the cut scenes either, even if one was clearly in Jet's hand.

redrain85 Wrote:As for the use of helmets in the other versions of the game. To me, it was painfully obvious BVG was trying to appeal to the Halo crowd.

I think it was obvious to most of us. And it was a terrible choice, I believe. I prefer helmets, but not ones that look so little like they belong in Tron. The marketing was horribly unsubtle. However, it should be recognized that some marketing is necessary. Some aspects will always exist for the sake of marketing and nothing else. That alone is not inherently bad. What is bad is when the implementation for such choices are handled without ANY consideration for quality. So much effort was put into the creation of a fully realized and incredibly beautiful rendition of the computer world, then a Halo helmet is slapped on the guy. That did not work for me.

Jademz Wrote:My reason is, I dislike helmets, cuz the worst that may happen to you is become digitized. I just dont see the armorment thing as serving the purpose.. Maybe some UV radiation proofing, or some acetylcholine to prevent neuropathy, You dont have a disk or a weapon outside, so you'd be bringing the closet with you just to make ends.

I think it's a given that the helmets serve no distinct purpose. However, why would sentient life within a computer require any form of clothing? Or two legs? Or transportation? They (the helmets) were a part of the film, they were key in creating a lasting impression on what Tron is to a generation. When Tron appears in pop culture, it is generally with a helmet and a tunic. Why give Batman a cape? He certainly does not need one. Oh, creatively you can explain it away, but it's all rationalization.

Also, when I was a kid, I always assumed that was just their heads. Not a form of clothing. These are creatures of light and thought, their forms are alien to our own, filtered through the eyes of Flynn.


 
DaveTRON
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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Monday, January, 16, 2006 10:34 AM
Traahn Wrote:
Jademz Wrote:The only reason you should need helmets, Lurkinginhorror, is to follow guidelines set by OSHA, or as a requirement by an employer, or the law of the state.

a floater, is an object, such as a tool, or material on a construction site that is not fastened or secured properly, and they pose a potential threat to everyone near them. So construction workers usually take thier breaks together, to prevent anything that is set aside from falling on them, while on break.

My reason is, I dislike helmets, cuz the worst that may happen to you is become digitized. I just dont see the armorment thing as serving the purpose.. Maybe some UV radiation proofing, or some acetylcholine to prevent neuropathy, You dont have a disk or a weapon outside, so you'd be bringing the closet with you just to make ends.

But, dont get me wrong, I see the digitized universe as being a big machine, so in some moments, you could exchange armorment.... but untill then..
Jademz - you rock. 'Course, I'm a little inebriated right now after having a festive night with my family... but maybe that's what all of us need is a little alcohol in our system to understand you more. Like DaveTRON wrote earlier, he doesn't get your sayings. But right now, I feel like your words speak wisdom.

Then you are smoking the same brand of crack because some of Jademz ramblings are pure gibberish in my opinion. It's just an opinion though, they are like assholes...everyone has one and they all stink!
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Sketch
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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Monday, January, 16, 2006 1:47 PM
*A circuit fries in Sketch's head*

Does anyone smell smoke?

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TronFAQ
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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Monday, January, 16, 2006 2:34 PM


lurkinghorror Wrote:What I mean is found within the subroutines. Technically, Jet was outfitted (depending on choice) with different pieces of armor. We never see them in the cut scenes, but correct me if I am wrong, you never see any of the other weapons represented in the cut scenes either, even if one was clearly in Jet's hand.
Ah, that's what you meant! Yeah, you're right. He does acquire armor subroutines, one of which is a helmet. Which we never see him wearing, of course.

I prefer helmets, but not ones that look so little like they belong in Tron. The marketing was horribly unsubtle. However, it should be recognized that some marketing is necessary. Some aspects will always exist for the sake of marketing and nothing else. That alone is not inherently bad. What is bad is when the implementation for such choices are handled without ANY consideration for quality. So much effort was put into the creation of a fully realized and incredibly beautiful rendition of the computer world, then a Halo helmet is slapped on the guy. That did not work for me.
I should clarify that I wouldn't mind helmets either, as long as they look appropriate. Like the ones in the concept artwork, for the Lightcycle Gamebot. Those helmets were nicely done. And the preview drawings of Jet for the comic with the helmet, are also appropriate.

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Jademz
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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Monday, January, 16, 2006 9:59 PM

Boingo_Buzzard Wrote:I don't remember the helmets in the X-Box version of Tron 2.0 except on the cover and in the intro screen.

Oh, my apologies, I thought that helmets were on all of the character models throughout the Xbox version, I honestly never heard anything otherwise. I thought of the body suit look as the most appealing version, instinctively..



Traahn Wrote:Jademz - you rock. 'Course, I'm a little inebriated right now after having a festive night with my family... but maybe that's what all of us need is a little alcohol in our system to understand you more. Like DaveTRON wrote earlier, he doesn't get your sayings. But right now, I feel like your words speak wisdom.

Um, yeah, I meet so many people. Thanks, I'm sure I'd find that a respectable response under the circumstances.


lurkinghorror Wrote: I think it's a given that the helmets serve no distinct purpose. However, why would sentient life within a computer require any form of clothing? Or two legs? Or transportation? They (the helmets) were a part of the film, they were key in creating a lasting impression on what Tron is to a generation. When Tron appears in pop culture, it is generally with a helmet and a tunic. Why give Batman a cape? He certainly does not need one. Oh, creatively you can explain it away, but it's all rationalization.

True, the reason exists, if it's rationalization, that's another perspective.

lurkinghorror Wrote:
Also, when I was a kid, I always assumed that was just their heads. Not a form of clothing. These are creatures of light and thought, their forms are alien to our own, filtered through the eyes of Flynn.

Yea, I'd probably think along those lines at first sight too. I remember you saying this before. I think we all have a niche for Tron in some fasion.

Thanks for the update DaveTron. I'll let you know if I'm smoking crackahol next time, so you aren't missing out.





 
Traahn
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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Monday, January, 16, 2006 10:38 PM
I don't really care for the Xbox helmets either. They just looked, well, out of place. 'Tis a shame... *sigh*


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TronFAQ
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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Tuesday, January, 17, 2006 2:52 PM


The helmets only appeared on the characters in Multiplayer, on the Xbox version.

For the GBA version, I think you only saw Tron with a helmet during the cutscenes, which obscured his face.

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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Tuesday, January, 17, 2006 3:26 PM
redrain85 Wrote:
Like the ones in the concept artwork, for the Lightcycle Gamebot. Those helmets were nicely done.

Could you point me to this artwork? I'm not sure if I've seen these or not. What is the Lightcycle Gamebot?

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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Tuesday, January, 17, 2006 4:11 PM


The Lightcycle Gamebot (aka Lightcyclist or just Gamebot) can be seen here:
http://www.tron-sector.com/gallery/show.aspx?id=976
In the pre-production artwork, the Gamebot had a helmet. But this didn't make it into the game, for some reason.



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Sapaca
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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Friday, January, 20, 2006 1:42 AM
I saw the artwork and thought it looked pretty dang cool myself.


 
Traahn
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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Friday, January, 27, 2006 3:21 AM
Was the fact that SLG was going to do a Tron comic really public news mid-last year? I found this blog entry, seemingly dated June 11, 2005:
http://www.benzilla.com/?p=151
Which points to this article:
http://www.newsarama.com/SLG/Disney/Vado_Disney.html
Dang, I guess I had totally forgotten if we did already hear this news mid-last year? But I don't remember anyone posting the news back then...

Tron (bi-monthly, full color, $3.50, issue #1 coming in spring, 2006)

“Tron will have elements of the original movie in it; and Disney of course, wants to push some attention towards their newest version of Tron, which is coming out next year. The comic that we’re doing begins six months after the story that takes place in the recent videogame, and continues from there. Assuming this is successful, we’ll be going back and bridge the gap between the first movie and the game.”

I think I've seen this before somewhere though:



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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Friday, January, 27, 2006 3:29 AM


The only couple of things that seem new to me, is SLG owner Dan Vado's statements (the interview was from last year): "Disney of course, wants to push some attention towards their newest version of Tron, which is coming out next year". Also: "Assuming this is successful, we’ll be going back and bridge the gap between the first movie and the game.”

He makes it sound like a sure thing, that something new was coming this year. I'd take that to have meant a new film. But, my guess is that it was just wishful thinking on everyone's part.

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on Wednesday, February, 01, 2006 3:35 PM
Just to let everyone know, I've just spotted a new interview with our very own lurkinghorror over at Newsarama. Heres the link to the interview

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Re: New TRON Comic Book Images

on Wednesday, February, 01, 2006 5:14 PM


All I have to say is, Jet looks SO much better in those artwork panels shown in that article. Big improvement over the earlier samples.



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