Traahn Wrote: TheReelTood wrote: some things I was irritated with. The new recognizers looked stupid - what were they thinking? What?? They weren't different, were they? I know they were used as transports a bit, but I don't think they changed their shape/structure much if at all. I can think of at last 4 places in the game where Recognizers were used. 2 of these instances let you see them from a distance and in their pure Recognizer form, including flying over a light cycle game grid as you watch AI lightcycles racing.

Yeah - the recognizers were different. The main difference is in the top part, or the head of the reco. Also, the flat part the head rests on (or above) has been reduced in size (in the game) to be the same width as where the arms (or legs or whatever they were) sit. Look at some of the recos in the film, and then check out the ones in the game. The basic shape (in general) is mostly the same. But I noticed the changes immediately. And they never grew on me - I still don't care for the redesigned recognizers.

Traahn Wrote: What's up with Laura's fate? Didn't care for that. Jet didn't need for his mother to have died to be at odds with his father Alan. Am I off-base here? I thought Laura was Ma3a?? Beamed into the computer somehow in some experiment that went wrong or something like that.

I remember the storyline that Laura died during a "mishap in the laser bay". I always imagined that a part of her made it in to the computer and maybe in to Ma3a (like her essence or something, not Laura incarnate), but I never even pondered the thought of Ma3a being a digitized Laura.

Traahn Wrote:I seem to remember an email hinting at this, and all through the game there are little hints; or at least nothing to disprove this notion. I figured a Tron 3.0 game would show that Ma3a was actually Laura... and thus, not really dead. I agree that I thought it was lame that Laura was dead, until I realized she's just in the computer as Ma3a.

I remember those e-mails as well - coworkers were discussing the fact that Ma3a sounded like Laura and it gave them the creeps (thinking that Alan had done it on purpose or something). To me, Ma3a sounded like Laura for much the same reason Yori sounded and looked like Laura. Ma3a was worked on my both Laura and Alan - so it made sense to me that Ma3a ended up sounding like Laura. Again, I did not see Laura's laser bay death as a transformation in to Ma3a. I kind of figured that part of Laura had made it in to the system, not as Ma3a - but perhaps as lost bits of data in raw, uncompelled form. I even thought that perhaps Laura would pop up somewhere in the game in digitized form the first time I played through.

Ma3a sounded like Laura, and perhaps had some of her mannerisms, but again, to me it was because Laura helped program her. At no point in the game did I even feel like Ma3a was Laura. She did not react to Jet as her son, or to Alan as her husband. She showed that she cared and even kind of held Jet as he went back out the un-digitizing data stream at the end (or at least surrounded him). But nothing in the game suggested to me that Ma3a was Laura.

Now, I admit that I may have missed these hints big time. I may be in the minority in terms of people who "didn't get that Ma3a was Laura". In all honesty - the first time I even thought of it was when reading your post. No joke! I got the hints that Laura's spirit was kind of in Ma3a, the same way any user's spirit is in a program they create. But I failed to get the feeling that Ma3a was Laura.

Ok, given the fact that I didn't care for Laura's character being killed off like she was, BUT in taking that direction I do find it interesting if indeed Ma3a was in fact Laura transformed. If Laura has to die, at least this ki

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DaveTRON wrote: I made the flyover of the I/O tower my Windows backdrop. Somebody saw it over my shoulder from the parking lot and came in to ask me about it. It's a great image.

It took me the longest time to figure out what you were talking about! Now that I know what you're referring to, it makes perfect sense, of course. I was trying to tie it into the conversation that was going on, but was not having luck. (I was hoping your mind didn't get taken over by grid bugs, making your speech become useless babble.) I saw it as like a, "The eagle has landed and the red fox flies," sort of post; or that somoene logged into your account

Oh well, now that I know you're referring to the computer-rendered I/O tower in the gallery! OKAY! I have to agree. That is a very nice image!!!

Thanks for the comments and dialogue, lurkinghorror and TheReelTodd. I guess we shall await DaveTRON's response on Laura Ma3a. I never thought of putting the '3' on the side there, lurkinghorror... thus making, "Mama". Interesting.

As for the artwork, lurkinghorror, if the eyes/face really are that critical to comment on now, then my only thought there is that Jet's face seems pretty two-dimensional/flat in those drawings. I think more depth might help? Just a thought. Oh yeah, and I agree the skin tones should have more the black & white effect, like your Photoshop tweak shows.

Yes, cut and paste.. maybe my security is too high. ok..(this one is a little shorter, and sweeter)


I beleive Ma3a may be a compilation of what Laura worked on before she was lazed. Ma3a may be Laura's program to protect, and secure the system.
I think she may have made the legacy code, and there could be a million dollar reason why she was lazed in the bay. I agree with Todd, that she may be the essence of Laura ..possibly a time capsule to Jet.

The flaw Todd pointed out, where older men in the video game are weak, ill informed, bad parents, poor planners, and have video game addict 18 y old mantee wetters, and look to feel like thier son may get too close to the suicide machine... well, here's my response:

How can Alan, being an engineer in the field of lazer technology, which has grown leaps and bounds in the past 30 years mind you, and also an engineer of molecular biology, among five other fields of engineering, be a flawed character in the game?


and where does 700% strength once being rezzed into the computer, mean you get bound and gagged by some thug who knows nothing about your ability to perfect where you are, and what you created?


How can Ma3a be such a warm character, and the closest thing to a soul in the computer world, not to mention, nearly as powerful as man in the machine, having been compiled in the lounge or whatever, for Jet to take out in a deathmatch? comon. And he not recognizing who made Ma3a, nor Allen telling Jet, "dont dance with Ma3a, she'll try to kill you". And, what was the mystery about all these new characters for? we're not THAT boring.

How come Allen can't tell Jet, "I dont like you looking at my lazer that way, but come and work on it for me, you will not die like your mother, and it's a great career move!"?

It seriously added a flaw, to deflate the characters inside a computer. tsk tsk.

Then, we look to remake a Movie, or game.. well, I hope who ever was incharge of this didn't make remake Herbie. (new bug joke) (I've never seen it either). That was a short list, but I hope it's not too much for you guys!

Traahn Wrote: PS: Jademz, if you're having troubles posting, I am too. I get Page Can't Be Displayed errors, and sometimes get kicked back to the home page, etc. I've even recently had troubles having the main tron-sector.com load up when I try to visit.

I had to set my web page update setting to "every time I visit", and I'm sure my cookie killer is another problem. it was after the recent bugfix coincidentally.

TheReelTodd Wrote: Alan is all old and needs a special chair to sit in because of his back? WTF? Stupid, stupid, STUPID!

Huh? Where, exactly was that in the game? I can't remember anything like that at all.

Lurking, Jst keep up the good work in the comic strip there for Tron 2.0 I know everyone has a opinion about how Tron should feel. Just keep tweeking it until you hit that button there for it. They all still look great to me.

TheReelTodd Wrote:And you really shouldn't worry about this thread ending up being a mix of images chat AND 2.0 story line chat.

Well you know, it's funny, because at one time I was lynched for being critical of something else in the game.

I must say though, that it never occurred to me that turning the 3 on its side would spell Mama. So I learned something new, too!

redrain85 Wrote: TheReelTodd Wrote:And you really shouldn't worry about this thread ending up being a mix of images chat AND 2.0 story line chat. Well you know, it's funny, because at one time I was lynched for being critical of something else in the game. I must say though, that it never occurred to me that turning the 3 on its side would spell Mama. So I learned something new, too!

I thought at first, that would be somewhere in the game, in hopes that the computer world would make him more productively interactive with the programs, and the game just went into that walk the line model.

To pick up where I stopped on my last post, the fan base didn't need to be targeted to teens, nor should a movie sequel. The fan base is nearly unanimous, for a high end movie, and a game. noone could complain about that.

Not an attempt to put a target on the comic line, I'm happy to see what others acomplish.

One question Lurking, a joke in advance. if that Jet character were to smile, would it have a "Stitch" smile? (lilo and stitch)

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