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Posts: 2,939 | War of the Worlds on Monday, June, 13, 2005 8:45 PM
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Posts: 1,064 | Re: War of the Worlds on Tuesday, June, 14, 2005 4:16 AM
I just love all Speilberg movies, he's a total asset to cinema.
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Posts: 0 | Re: War of the Worlds on Tuesday, June, 14, 2005 4:36 AM
I am really looking forward to this. i'll probably have to wait some though. but i don't care. it'll add to the suspense!!
didn't the original have these giant tripod things like the striders in half life 2?
or has spielberg changed it?
it's annoying though, because all you really see in the trailers are scared people and stuff falling apart dramatically
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Posts: 474 | Re: War of the Worlds on Tuesday, June, 14, 2005 11:39 AM
I'm a fan of them all, Speilburg, H.G. Wells, and the book "War of the Worlds."
However, I see a no-win situation looming. Either Steven must convert the story in the book directly or change it. Either way, I see problems. One an issue of predictability and one of deviating from the story to the extent it's pointless to even have even associated with it at all. I understand that a director/producer of a film is drawn to the creative process, and is inticed to modify it, but I've always frowned on that in the interests of the original creator's vision and the sake of originality.
It's plain to see it's been "altered" since it's obviously set in modern day, but common sense says that quite a bit will have changed. Will they still even be from Mars anymore for that matter? But, what I'm most concerned with is the final solution. Will he stick to the original demise of the Martians? Will they die from disease, or will he cave in to the codes of cinema and make it a more humanly heroic solution, full of explosions and white-knuckle escapes? H.G. Wells was conveying an intended message that the Earth was saved by something other than humans. It was to convey humility, humbleness, and that we are not total masters of our fate. I have a bad feeling that this message will be lost on the big screen, even with Steven at the helm.
Despite it probably being a good film in it's own right, I have a forboding that the essense of H.G. Wells masterpiece will be sadly diminished one way or another. I guess it couldn't be in better hands, but I dunno. The film from the 50's was a decent film for the day, but it could have accomplished what ID4 did without having to attach itself to H.G. Well's book, heck the abominable radio program from the 30's as well.
For starters, I don't know why they couldn't have just stuck with the time period of the book. The turn of the 20th century should have been preserved. It would have been fantastic watching early tanks and early ironclad warships taking potshots at fantastic walking machines... as originally designed.
If I see the deployment of a single nuke, I'll puke.
Anyway, other than that, I too am sort of looking forward to it as well. Although, I'll probably be waiting for DVD for reasons of it being too difficult to get to a theater these days. I had to move mountains to see Episode III, and it's just too danged expensive. I'd rather spend the $20 on buying the DVD later straight up than seeing it once in the theater with a bunch of disruptive teenage doinks.
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Posts: 0 | Re: War of the Worlds on Tuesday, June, 14, 2005 12:02 PM
TheJediUnit Wrote:I'd rather spend the $20 on buying the DVD later straight up than seeing it once in the theater with a bunch of disruptive teenage doinks.
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Posts: 474 | Re: War of the Worlds on Tuesday, June, 14, 2005 12:06 PM
LOL!
I notice you didn't say you weren't disruptive though.
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Posts: 0 | Re: War of the Worlds on Tuesday, June, 14, 2005 12:37 PM
TheJediUnit Wrote:LOL!
I notice you didn't say you weren't disruptive though.
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lol. i hate disruptive people as much as you.
but just to keep you happy:
I hereby declare that i, Alex Gunns [aka Prankster bit] am not a disruptive, stereotypical teenager.
signed: Alex G "Prankster bit"
i like to think of myself as a grown up trapped in a teenager's body. i am a LOT more mature than some people i know, but i can still laugh at their jokes and antics.
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Posts: 474 | Re: War of the Worlds on Tuesday, June, 14, 2005 2:10 PM
Okay, I'm satisfied.
Yea, but I pretty much gave up theater viewings because of that sort of thing. I have an adequate home theater setup, thankfully, and the patience to wait for nearly any film to reach DVD. But when I do see a film, I avoid teenage-laden showtimes like the plague. The last film I saw late on the weekend was Star Trek 9 and was very hacked off. None of them would shut up and even got the laser pointer going on. I swore off regular theater viewing from that point onwards. I've had horrible luck with theater disruptions though. Once, I leaned over to whisper something to my wife and got a face-load of a dirty teenager's shoe, propped up on my armrest between our faces. Man, I stood up, grabbed the foot, and flung it back and over my seat and let the twit have a verbal lashing. I've had to tell yapping teens to shut up or move too many times to count. I'm not easy to disturb either, really. I give miles of tolorance, but teens are pretty bad about making it a point to gather attention to their lonely, bored, insignificant selves. A talking child doesn't bother me much at all comparatively, since a child doesn't know any better, and I love kids. But, teens know better.
A bigger problem is having a 3 year old. It's heck to make arrangements to see a film, so seeing them at home is nearly manditory being parents to a youngster.
Anyway, I'll probably not be seeing it 'til DVD. "Having is not as pleasing a thing as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true."
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Posts: 2,939 | Re: War of the Worlds on Tuesday, June, 14, 2005 2:40 PM
The war machines in the new film are walking tripods. The black smoke didn't make it into the film, but the red weed did. The aliens do die from bacteria. I've read about it on the net, and it's very easy to see it shown in the movie poster of the alien hand holding the burning Earth. The blood vessel like red weed wraped around the alien hand symbolically hints to what the aliens downfall is. (I know that's artsy talk, but it's great to see something like that used in a poster.) I've already noticed the aliens are connected in style to the 50's film. I haven't read the original classic novel yet. Want to when I get the chance, just right now my free time must be used for other things.
I think the 50's film was great in presenting an alien invasion. Sure it was in response to the Cold-War parinnoia of the time, but keep in mind Wells novel was in response to the militarization of Germany and other events during his time. If that sounded like I'm shruging H. G. Well, I'm not, just pointing out where some of the inspiration for both sources came is all. I love the simplistic look of the ships in the 50's film, which are in fact tripos for they don't fly but travel via the support of three gravity beams under it.
They did that cause building a actual walker would of cost too much and shot the film down in the process. Compared to all the saucers of the 50's film era, the 50's martian war machine is pretty original in it's deisgn.
I'm looking forward to the film to see what Speilberg will focus on and present us with. Sure there are going to be differences, both minor and major compared to the novel, but keep in mind it's just a movie. A verison of the novel form a different angle, yet on film not paper. You'll never stomp out the original novel. That's not the purpose of the film though. It's just War of the Worlds though the eyes of Spielberg. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Posts: 474 | Re: War of the Worlds on Tuesday, June, 14, 2005 3:44 PM
Good points.
However, while it is "just a movie", movies still have a powerful ability to command what could be percieved as the definative public perception. It cannot un-write the novel, but it will have a strong, lasting impression. In the shadow of the Lord of the Ring films, it is plain to see how possible it is to keep close to an original vision. I have the ability to appreciate both a book and it's film separately, but it should not have to be such a leap between the two without beginning to appear better to have been just anassociated at all.
I'm VERY glad to hear that there are going to be walkers and red weed and the virus ending, which leads me to believe it will be pretty close to the book. However, it now appears it will be predictable to those who have read the book! LOL! Such is the duality of films of books. Can't really win either way.
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Posts: 580 | Re: War of the Worlds on Tuesday, June, 14, 2005 3:53 PM
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Posts: 0 | Re: War of the Worlds on Tuesday, June, 14, 2005 4:22 PM
it's WAR OF THE WHEAT!
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Posts: 474 | Re: War of the Worlds on Tuesday, June, 14, 2005 4:26 PM
Anybody ever heard the circa 1970's double LP of War of the Worlds? It was really pretty cool. It was a compliation of bands and sounds that formed something of a "theater of the mind" radio play that I don't know was ever played on the radio. Jeff Wayne produced it. It had song breaking into narration/scripted dialouge. Anyway, it had a bit of fantastic art in the folded cover.
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Posts: 2,939 | Re: War of the Worlds on Tuesday, June, 14, 2005 4:34 PM
TheJediUnit Wrote:Good points.
However, while it is "just a movie", movies still have a powerful ability to command what could be percieved as the definative public perception. It cannot un-write the novel, but it will have a strong, lasting impression. In the shadow of the Lord of the Ring films, it is plain to see how possible it is to keep close to an original vision. I have the ability to appreciate both a book and it's film separately, but it should not have to be such a leap between the two without beginning to appear better to have been just anassociated at all.
I'm VERY glad to hear that there are going to be walkers and red weed and the virus ending, which leads me to believe it will be pretty close to the book. However, it now appears it will be predictable to those who have read the book! LOL! Such is the duality of films of books. Can't really win either way.
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One change though is the aliens are not from Mars. I do wish they were from the angry red planet like the original novel. They explained about how before Wells wrote his novel they had discovered channles on Mars, which made everyone question if there was life on Mars where as now we have all this information on Mars showing us only small bacterial organisms is about all is there. That change was more about todays science knowledge of Mars. In this film we don't really know where they are from, at least that's what the net reads. This minor detail change shouldn't affect the story though, unless their decided to make the aliens from Uranus.
All the interviews I've read they talk about the novel and what Wells mentioned. This shows that while they are doing a different take on it, they are still taking into account the things that made the novel what it is. https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue_bezel/ |
TheJediUnit User
Posts: 474 | Re: War of the Worlds on Tuesday, June, 14, 2005 4:49 PM
Yea, I figured of all things, they'd ditch them being actual martians. I don't agree that it's a "problem that needed to be fixed", but that's just me. I think a reasonable suspension of disbelief could have been attained regardless. It will complicate other issues, or cause a chain of other things needing to be subsequently changed. For example, the martians had reached Earth with many "Earth shots," something that makes sense between the spance between us. However, many such lobs would seem less possible/practical from another star, so they'll probably have to consolidate the many craft into one, like ID4.
Nothing major, but just another snuffing out of the books' distinctiveness.
But, it will probably still be a good film regardless, I'm sure. I'm just making picky conversation.
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Posts: 0 | Re: War of the Worlds on Tuesday, June, 14, 2005 6:23 PM
Prankster bit Wrote:it's WAR OF THE WHEAT!
[disclaimer: i'm not sure if popcorn is actually made of wheat, and to be honest, i don't care. i only said that because i thought it was funny.] |
PopCORN is not made of WHEAT, PB.
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