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gl Wrote:For the record, I didn't like TRON2.0 as a sequel either...

I didn't either. I LOVED the game and played it with a HUGE grin on my face the whole time, but I didn't care for the story line of it for several reasons. No need to get in to that though. But at least they tried to build off of what is TRON instead of trying to rewrite what TRON is.

gl Wrote:On the upside, I agree with Trahn that nothing can damage the original film. To me it's a timeless, beautiful work of art, flaws'n'all. Most people already don't like it - a good or bad remake won't make any difference...

I think a remake could detract from TRON in the sense that what we know and love as TRON will be replaced with whatever they turn it in to. The TRON we love won't go away, but it will never be in the spot light again while new "TRON" this and that are marketed. If a new remade "TRON" were to do well, then the new "TRON" would be built off of in terms of games, sequels, merchandise, etc. Our TRON will be just kind of there for us - dead to anything new and dead to Disney. Of course, Disney will no doubt screw up any new "TRON" and make it not TRON. The question is will their new "TRON" win over movie audiences? If so, then like I said - everything TRON that we love is truly dead while new "TRON" becomes what it becomes - the replacement.

Recently I watched the original film trailer for TRON again. I even showed it to a guy at work who was born the year TRON came out. The trailer itself falls short of a great marketing tool. But when you watch it, you can really get a feel for what TRON is and why TRON isn't just the whole digitizing ride inside the computer, but really that whole time period (1982) and the story on top of that. TRON is many things really, but its roots are really 1982. Everything that makes TRON really cool is because of that time period when computers were kind of new and undiscovered for many.

I shudder to think of what they'd try to do to make a new "TRON" set against the whole thing starting in today's age of computing. I can almost see the kind of crap they'd probably do in my head.

I really think TRON can have a sequel if it's done right. TRON 2.0 isn't exactly good sequel material, though it made for a fun game. A sequel that builds off the original origins of TRON could be great because they could take TRON in so many cool directions if they build upon an already established event (the original film) in their time line. It could even be powerful enough to draw in new audiences who had never seen the original.

I understand that TRON fans (of the REAL TRON) are scarce. I understand that most people think that TRON is a waste of a film. I also understand that these people, in general, do not care for films of this genre.

Oh well. They're going to do what they're going to do. The likelihood of me actually paying money to see a TRON remake is very low. The likelihood of me investing two hours of my life (even for free) in such a thing is low. In the realm of "anything is possible" - there is a chance that a TRON remake could be good, and even better than the original. There is also a chance that I'll win the lottery next week.

Whether they're any good or not is another thing, but so many films can be remade because they're not dependent on time or a certain generation. TRON is not one of those films. Update it and try to retell it in today's society and it becomes NOT TRON. That's my opinion of it anyway.

I'd rather see the TRON we know and love slip in to obscurity (if it hasn't already) without some new "TRON" remake. Better yet, I'd like to see Mr. Lisberger offered a chance to do a TRON sequel, but that seems unlikely now
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The film was started as an independant fillm and only went to studios when the 1980 Olympics were boycotted and Animalympics didn't get it's true day in the sun.

Wonder what it would have been without the Disney influences? Having seen some of the Stuff in Steven's colelction from the pre-Disney days, it would have been interesting. I for one like the version of BIT from those days. He was a ball with a face and he could speak.

It would be sort of cool to find a way to go and do that version now as well.

The likelihood of me actually paying money to see a TRON remake is very low. The likelihood of me investing two hours of my life (even for free) in such a thing is low.

I'll believe this when I see it I bet you'll see it. Just wait for all the cool trailers and materials being put out. You'll be all over it... mark my words

I for one like the version of BIT from those days. He was a ball with a face and he could speak.

The concept drawings of the BIT with a face are kind've weird for me to see. I'm actually glad they made him a faceless, abstract form; although had he been done with a face I'm sure I would've been cool with it. I just like that he's more like a cursor... a blip in the computer world.
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GL,

Having sat over many a lunch with Steven talking TRON and watching him sketch out story ideas on tabletops, I have seen the directions it could go. There is one story in particular that he was very fired up about that we refer to as the MCP story. It brought the MCP back in a big way.

I'd love to see that film made. If you are ever here in Burbank I will let you read it and see what you think. Before anyone asks, I can't post it. If you want to know it, you gotta come here and read it.

It's great, and Disney is oblivious if they don't see that.

I think we can all concur here that it would be preferable to see a new sequel with Steven at the helm for the movie. am I right on this at least folks.

I concur

I would probably not pay to see a remake of the movie.

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I keep thinking of things to add here.

When I met Steven he was not all that jazzed about TRON, and over the past couple of years he had really rebounded on the subject.

He was on fire about a sequel up to the point of the MCP story being ignored last year.

I think he's still very into the idea of continuing the voyage and perhaps creating a series of films, but the problem is Disney. They don't see him as the lead on this and I don't think he'll get the chance from them.

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DaveTRON Wrote: I think he's still very into the idea of continuing the voyage and perhaps creating a series of films, but the problem is Disney. They don't see him as the lead on this and I don't think he'll get the chance from them. I personally think he should create another digital world and play there. What do you think of that?

First off, I'm VERY glad that he's had some recent renewed interest in . I hope he does something with that spark, that fire, to help keep Tron alive. Granted, he is prevented in many (all?) respects by Disney; but having that spark is a great thing. (I wish business could only keep creative propertly like that for a limited length of time. For him to have written and created that world, that film, and to never be able to do anything with it again is absolutely rediculous. I understand the business logistics of it, so it makes sense. But it's just very... VERY... sad.)

My main question is: what does Disney have the legal rights over when it comes to Tron? The character names? The blue/red circuitry glows? The environments? I'm really curious where the line gets drawn with respect to their legal rights over the movie; and where our (or Steven's) rights begin.

If Steven were allowed to re-create beautiful Tron-like environments like before, complete with the familiar circuitry glows, environments and stuff, with the only changes being to character names and storyline (for copyright reasons) -- then I say he should go for it! All the better if he were able to take some of the sounds from the original movie and use them; or tweak them slightly, if copyright legalities prevented him from using the sounds. Hmm, also if he can't use "Master Control Program," maybe he could use "Master Control Processor " without copyright infringement? And "Traahn" instead of Tron; Yuri instead of Yori; Rom instead of Ram; etc. Hmm, might be onto something. This might be a way to refer to the old characters (if only verbally) in his sequel, without infringing.
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DaveTRON Wrote:GL, Having sat over many a lunch with Steven talking TRON and watching him sketch out story ideas on tabletops, I have seen the directions it could go. There is one story in particular that he was very fired up about that we refer to as the MCP story. It brought the MCP back in a big way.

Oh excellent. The MCP needs a makeover : ).

I'd love to see that film made. If you are ever here in Burbank I will let you read it and see what you think.

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A series of online comics is a really cool idea, DT. That would be a simple but effective way to get younger people to appreciate the story and make them want to see the film.

Another MCP story? Now that is cool. I was hoping the MCP would make an appearance in Tron 2.0. (Who knows, maybe he did? ) It's entirely possible for the MCP to come back in a new film, in my mind. Basically, as long as Steve is involved I know it will be good.

You could also call me a bit of a hypocrite, because I too like the new BSG but am against a Tron remake. But I see them as being separate issues. Why?

Let's face it, the original BSG was campy. Really campy. It reflected its era, very much. You could argue the same for Tron, and you're partially correct. Now that doesn't mean I don't like the old BSG . . . I do! But I could see that story being updated or remade. Tron on the other hand, doesn't really warrant an update. In fact, updating the film would destroy what made Tron what it was. A film about emerging computer technology, and where it was going.

Some people think Tron is too fluffy and light-hearted. Well I'd agree with them to an extent, but if you stop and think about it . . . there are some deeper hidden subtexts in the film. It's too easy to just write it off as 80's kitsch.

The computer era is here, all around us . . . so rather than move backward, let's move forward. Do a new film that reflects the current state of computers. Without replacing the original.