elberfan User
Posts: 9 | RE: Rinzler a descendant of Tron? on Monday, November, 08, 2010 5:12 PM
Hey everyone, I'm just getting re-acquainted with the Tron world and the "Is Rinzler really Tron?" speculation has fueled my renewed interest even more.
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned it before, but if you look at Rinzler's identity discs they have both orange (the inner ring) and blue (the outer edge) on them whereas all the other discs I've seen in the trailers have only one color. I have the Rinzler promo card from Tron Night and you can see this very clearly. I don't know if that means he's Tron, but it does suggest some kind of double identity.
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ShadowDragon1 User
Posts: 2,056 | RE: Rinzler a descendant of Tron? on Monday, November, 08, 2010 5:26 PM
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Posts: 103 | RE: Rinzler a descendant of Tron? on Monday, November, 08, 2010 11:07 PM
elberfan Wrote:Hey everyone, I'm just getting re-acquainted with the Tron world and the "Is Rinzler really Tron?" speculation has fueled my renewed interest even more.
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned it before, but if you look at Rinzler's identity discs they have both orange (the inner ring) and blue (the outer edge) on them whereas all the other discs I've seen in the trailers have only one color. I have the Rinzler promo card from Tron Night and you can see this very clearly. I don't know if that means he's Tron, but it does suggest some kind of double identity. |
all signs point to who he truly is, especially with all the fanfare released. I won't go into any further detail but it's essentially a given at this point. The only question is "How" did he become who he is? it's the back story that everyone is highly anticipating, I know I am.
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Posts: 33 | RE: Rinzler a descendant of Tron? on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 6:32 PM
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coolhandmelo User
Posts: 18 | RE: Rinzler a descendant of Tron? on Tuesday, November, 09, 2010 8:20 PM
If anyone has read part one of the Marvel prequel TRON BETRAYAL, then you realize Tron is Rinzler. Hopefully issue two explains how he became Rinzler. At the end of issue one the seeds of an alliance between Clu and Tron against Flynn are planted.
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CH User
Posts: 84 | RE: Rinzler a descendant of Tron? on Wednesday, November, 10, 2010 10:11 PM
I just finished reading vol 2 of Betrayal - it will leave you questioning whether rinzler is tron.
Tron is portrayed as having a unwavering allegiance to Flynn. The ending statements at the end of vol 2 is what leaves me puzzled. Perhaps Evolution will disclose what happens to Tron, but it isn't in Betrayal.
I'm starting to think Anon might have become Rinzler instead. There's no mention of his fate in Tron Legacy.
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Mayorcan User
Posts: 188 | RE: Rinzler a descendant of Tron? on Wednesday, November, 10, 2010 10:52 PM
Hmm, no explicit reveal in "Betrayal, part 2"...nice. By the way, I just want to commend the Tron Legacy story team for dragging us out so far on the whole "Where is Tron? Is he Rinzler?" question. It's like we are all pretty sure he and Rinzler are one and the same, but the compelling "Exhibit A" is still just beyond our grasp...that moment where the helmet comes off and a familiar face stares back OR the moment that circuitry changes color to orange and the helmet comes on...
Good to see mention of Tron's loyalty to Flynn. It struck me that a poster above tried to claim Tron and Clu are entering into a conspiracy against Flynn. I think more likely what is going on is that our favorite security program is getting duped by Clu into following him, even when Flynn is conspicuously "absent". Perhaps this sows doubt in Tron's mind until some point in Tron Evolution or, perhaps even Tron Legacy (I say that based on a line Kevin Flynn uttered in the Tron Night footage).on line abortion pill misoprostol dose abortion medical abortion pill onlineorder abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill
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Oneiros42 User
Posts: 1 | RE: Rinzler a descendant of Tron? on Thursday, November, 11, 2010 5:32 PM
I think the comic prequel more or less reveals that Rinzler is Tron (if you look at the light pattern on the suit), it just doesn't explain how he got that way. I'm sure that's saved for the movie.
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Posts: 103 | RE: Rinzler a descendant of Tron? on Thursday, November, 11, 2010 5:50 PM
Oneiros42 Wrote:I think the comic prequel more or less reveals that Rinzler is Tron (if you look at the light pattern on the suit), it just doesn't explain how he got that way. I'm sure that's saved for the movie.
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I've tried explaining that a few posts back that all signs/fanfare that's currently out point out to his identity. |
cirlin User
Posts: 382 | RE: Rinzler a descendant of Tron? on Thursday, November, 11, 2010 5:51 PM
@Oneiros42
You're probably right, but I'm still kinda hoping for a more surprising outcome. I like the idea of him hiding out and leading a resistance or something. I'm sure it will be cool either way though.
If Tron is Rinzler I think the comic really indicates that he did not join Clu willingly. Perhaps he was "rectified"?
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snaxmaster User
Posts: 1 | RE: Rinzler a descendant of Tron? on Friday, December, 10, 2010 12:34 PM
After playing Evolution and seeing what Clu did to Giles, imho its obvious Rinzler is a reprogrammed Tron. Just saying.
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Pilgrim1099 User
Posts: 606 | RE: Rinzler a descendant of Tron? on Friday, December, 10, 2010 1:55 PM
cirlin Wrote:@Oneiros42
You're probably right, but I'm still kinda hoping for a more surprising outcome. I like the idea of him hiding out and leading a resistance or something. I'm sure it will be cool either way though.
If Tron is Rinzler I think the comic really indicates that he did not join Clu willingly. Perhaps he was "rectified"? |
Henceforth, the solution is to rectify the Rectifier . And that's a CLU right there.
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Posts: 253 | RE: Rinzler a descendant of Tron? on Friday, December, 10, 2010 9:41 PM
Pilgrim1099 Wrote:cirlin Wrote:@Oneiros42
You're probably right, but I'm still kinda hoping for a more surprising outcome. I like the idea of him hiding out and leading a resistance or something. I'm sure it will be cool either way though.
If Tron is Rinzler I think the comic really indicates that he did not join Clu willingly. Perhaps he was "rectified"? |
Henceforth, the solution is to rectify the Rectifier . And that's a CLU right there.
And a speculation to boot. |
In Tron Betrayal, Flynn did say that creating Clue could tear the grid apart. Clue is the key to returning Tron and the grid back to it's original state. The question is whether he is to be destroyed or converted (rectified?)? Some tyrannical leaders have to be destroyed while some surrender. I've never heard of any having a change of heart.
From reviews of the movie, they leave me with the impression that Tron is only part of a flashback. How does that play into Rinzler being Tron? Maybe, destroying Rinzler (Tron) works because there is a version of him on the Incom server. Jet Lives! |
Pilgrim1099 User
Posts: 606 | RE: Rinzler a descendant of Tron? on Friday, December, 10, 2010 10:53 PM
Darth Tronage Wrote:Pilgrim1099 Wrote:cirlin Wrote:@Oneiros42
You're probably right, but I'm still kinda hoping for a more surprising outcome. I like the idea of him hiding out and leading a resistance or something. I'm sure it will be cool either way though.
If Tron is Rinzler I think the comic really indicates that he did not join Clu willingly. Perhaps he was "rectified"? |
Henceforth, the solution is to rectify the Rectifier . And that's a CLU right there.
And a speculation to boot. |
In Tron Betrayal, Flynn did say that creating Clue could tear the grid apart. Clue is the key to returning Tron and the grid back to it's original state. The question is whether he is to be destroyed or converted (rectified?)? Some tyrannical leaders have to be destroyed while some surrender. I've never heard of any having a change of heart.
From reviews of the movie, they leave me with the impression that Tron is only part of a flashback. How does that play into Rinzler being Tron? Maybe, destroying Rinzler (Tron) works because there is a version of him on the Incom server. |
And that's maybe why in Tron 3, the focus shifts from Flynn's server to the new ENCOM server. Think about it. Imagine how huge the digital world is inside ENCOM's servers compared to the basement lab version. It could be that Clu is looking to expand and needs to go to that frontier.
And this is where the original Tron is at and I'm going to bet that the ENCOM version of Tron is much more powerful than the one that was in Flynn's servers. After all, Alan has had since Flynn's disappearance to improve on the program.
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