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I watched the second half of the new Knight Rider 2-hour Ford commercial last night.

I've taken the time to read everyone's posts so far. Interesting mix of thoughts and feelings. They seem to range mostly from totally hated it to just didn't like it that much. No one seemed to really enjoy it a lot. Perhaps 2-hour Ford commercials aren't the wave of the future?

The second half didn't suck as much as the first half did. The cliché character types smoothed out some as the show progressed. The music got less annoying (although reaching a bit for some emotion). Some of the plot holes were patched up a little, but still pretty big.

The amazing "rezzing" car thing was answered - it seems that Wesley Crusher's nanites traveled back in time and found a new home in KITT. Very lame, but it explains the struggling-to-look-so-cool special effects. I just don't want to see stupid slow-motion bullets hitting KITT every damn time. That's as stupid is in the new Bionic Woman when they had to use animation to take the audience right inside her bionic ear canal and reveal her bionic eardrum listening to the sounds in its bionic way. It looked fake, stupid, and wasn't necessary, but they kept doing it over and over and over and over. The bullets hitting KITT in slow motion is the same thing - stupid, fakey, and unnecessary IMO.

I know it was mentioned a couple of times, but KITT's being able to be damaged when his "computer is turned off" is just about the lamest damn thing they could have done, period. Not as lame as the Mustang thing, but it's up there. Yeah, actually, that lame. Maybe lamer. I think I know why they went that route. I'm guessing that they want to see how much damage they can dish out to KITT each week (or fairly often) to get the audience sitting on the edge of their seat, before KITT's computer is turned back on, or re-activated or re-booted, or whatever, and then watch KITT repair itself and then save the day. Lame-o-ramma-dign-dong! The original KITT was indeed FAR more advanced in this area.

Another lame point to point out is that KITT can be hacked so seemingly easily. I'm no tech know-it-all, but if my computer is being hacked as I use it, I bet I can stop ANY hacker on planet earth from hacking in any further once I discover the attempt. I mean it - there is not a hacker alive than can continue hacking my computer AFTER I power-off my router! I take it KITT does not have the ability to deactivate his incoming transmission receiver? Today's internet addicted folks are going to buy that?

If we start to see KITT getting hacked a lot and taking on loads of damage while his computer is turned off and the Crusher nanites can't repair him without it being on, I'm going to loose interest in this show VERY quick. My interest is minimal as it is. You see, I want to like the show. I'm TRYING to like the show. They're not making it easy, but things can and might improve once they dump the idiot writers and get a clue as to what made the original series rock. Show development can save the show. Lack of show development will seal its fate... unless the young ones who knew little to nothing of the original series simply buy this crap as it is and love it.

Oh, another major lame point, also brought up before, is KITT being able to stop the SUV without budging an inch. I actually laughed out loud for that part! To be honest, I even laughed during the 70's Superman movie when he stopped a car in its tracks like that. Even as a kid, I knew that no mater how strong anyone is, weight comes in to play. In the 70's, that kind of super-trick was more forgivable. Today it just kills the moment in a demonstration of supreme lack of any believability. I'll buy a talking car. I won't buy crap like the instant stop thing.

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Todd I think your commentary had more effort and thought put into it than the 2 hour Ford commercial did. It definitely had more writing!

I completely agree with you on all points - I especially liked the Wesley Crusher nanite reference - except the one about Superman not moving when he stopped a car.

Logically/physically/scientifically speaking you are correct. Of course, logically/physically/scienficially speaking that car should've smeared Superman across the road when he tried to stop it. Conceptually/practically speaking, if Superman was flung across the road whenever he tried to stop a car then I think his overall power levels, his "superness" if you will, would be questionable and the far more impressive feats he performs - like not being hurled backward when taking a punch from some supervillain who can bench press a Buick - would seem less believable in context.

Though I'm sure there are explanations for how he can stop a car without moving, they are almost irrelevant; the fact that he can stop a car without moving is what validates his "superness" in our minds, and allows us to accept that he can do the far more fantastic feats that he does.

The Mustang is not an American of Kryptonian descent with superpowers. It's a very Earthbound Ford with a computer AI and microscopic robots crawling all over it. The Mustang not moving an inch when hit by the Yukon XL because the computer was on is just completely outlandish. The computer AI was an instant away from being hacked anyway, so it couldn't have been coordinating the nanites effectively. Of course, coordinated nanites wouldn't have made not being heavily damaged and thrown across the road seem any less ludicrous.

I think this show will share the Bionic Woman's fate of being cancelled, and deservedly so.

And yes, the Viper reference is mine! First!

Another thing, KITT should be atleast as fast as an aircraft, or make us think so. lol. Atleast make it race one of these:
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TheReelTodd Wrote:Check this out: TheReelTodd Wrote:...If so, judos to the network for allowing it... Anyone care to explain what the hell "judos" are?

Sure; whereas "kudos" are "props", which is slang for due, respect, and credit, "judos" are "chops", which are strikes with short quick downward strokes meted out as punishment. I think the network richly deserves judos for what they did to KR!

TheReelTodd Wrote:But do you remember the awesome 80's TV show "The Greatest American Hero"? That show ROCKED! Good old Ralph - lost his super-suit instructional manual and never cold fly very well. Do you remember when he tried to stop a car though? It would push him back, much to his shagrin, and he'd have to dig his feet in to stop the vehicle over a distance. Now this was done totally for comedic purposes, and it worked very well. I felt it was also somewhat true to what might happen if a man was nearly indescribable and had super-human strength. I can accept Superman stopping a car instantly far more than the nan-o-matic KITT, simply because it works better with a comic book superhero. KITT is supposed to be based on more reality-based (though futuristic) technology. If they want to stop a car instantly like that, they had better explain that KITT also has the inertial dampers from the Enterprise too. Maybe the nanites brought the inertial dampers along for the ride when they were sent back in time? Ok - I'm cracking myself up, anyway.

I absolutely remember The Greatest American Hero. TGAH is one of my all-time favorite TV shows! In fact, I'd love to get the DVD set of the entire series in the black tin.

Ralph was kind of like a Superman who never got the hang of his powers. Maybe the suit did have the potential to match Superman's feats, maybe it didn't. It's quite possible that Ralph's suit may have been able to negate inertia. Think about it: he could fly, so gravity manipulation was a possible feature; he could grow and shrink, so mass manipulation was a possible feature. Didn't Ralph also have super-speed? That would hint at possible inertia-manipulation technology. But because Ralph lost the dang-blasted instruction manual, we'll never know!

Come to think of it, Ralph was kind of like an alternate-universe Tony Stark who didn't have the manual to the somatic combat vehicle - a.k.a. Iron Man armor - he didn't create but was given. The most obvious difference being that Ralph's alien suit was so radically high-tech as to have no visible evidence of technology humans might recognize; his suit just looked like a cloth suit instead of a high-tech human suit of armor.

YES! Judos to them all!!! Doom and woe! Doom and woe!

At least The Greatest American Hero lasted three entire seasons, which is probably three entire seasons more than the abomination of a show that is the new KR will last.

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The CGI and effects were cool in a lame way. The technology appearently wasn't a main theme on the pilot. I did like the shatter on the body from the impact of bullets hitting the skin... but again.. that 's about the only good one. There were no matrix looking effects, nothing showing nano tech, even if they made it look like they were heating/cooling the nanobots while appearing, so that KITT looks like the memory metal type of thing, rather than a T3 tinman. sorry, I just don't venture into how bad TV has gotten lately..

but the list just goes on and on...

Syd Mead surely had nothing to do with this.. It surely would be about something entirely different IMO. The futurist is not an understatement, so I shudder at the thought of ford using or naming anything like this with his name remotely associated.
Same with Richard Taylor, they scrutinize thier work at a high level.. I see nothing on his website for a "Ford commercial".. HereHowever, I did see did some graphic design work for ford that is similar: here

Cars looked unique, true, how ford translated to that was making bubbly ford cars or something? heh.. lol jk. I dont know.

I didn't make that too evil did I? I am sure they could have tried to make it good. Of course, if the money isn't there -from what they did in the past, I can imagine that... that makes sense.

just think about it like this, imagine you are the screen writer, describing anything in that show.

"body damage -like hitting a partially frozen bowl of water"
"abilities- racing gripping the ground, driving up walls, shoots webs and swings through NY City, and heals the deflected bullet impact instantly, makes a spoiler. FX look like glowing shapeshifting oozing bodypart appearing and disappearing on command"

I dunno... heh It's just a generic look. IMO, hijacked by some moron infront of the entire world. They did get thier response..

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Indeed, nothing wrong with that, either. I'm glad for their having worked with Ford and NBC.

Sorry if I misconstrueded your intent on some of what you wrote.

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