TheJediUnit Wrote:I've pretty much enjoyed Enterprise when I can get around to watching it, which has been nearly impossible. I can't believe how little T.V. I get around to watching anymore. I have to pretty much ration hours in front of the T.V., and Enterprise has pretty much been shelved 'til a later date, perhaps until can get it on DVD. However, I have enjoyed the formula and the cast. Tucker is me all over!

I don't watch much TV either. In fact, Enterprise is the ONLY show I actually have my communicator set to remind me to watch every week.

I'm going to miss it when it's gone and will probably end up getting the DVD set of each season (as they're available). I didn't start watching the show until the 1st season was already in reruns, so I missed several of those episodes, I'm sure.

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And unfortunately I have not seen Robot Chicken. I remember DaveTRON (I think it was him) starting a thread about that show a month or two ago. The following responses all made it seem like it was a worthy comedy show, though a short one. Is it really only 15-minutes long?

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Ok, I just looked it up. It looks pretty cool and I LOVE stop motion animation! I even play with it myself from time to time. It's all but disappeared from film and television, with the exception of the occasional Tim Burton film and those well done British shorts done by... I forget their name but they're REALLY well done and a blast to watch.

I went to their website and they even had a preview clip that had George Jetson's boss in the image! BUT... when I went to play it, it was encoded in "Real Player"... I HATE Real Player! Son of a @*& @&#&* damn @&#* mother %$#@* piece of &*$#@!

Oh well, at least I know when the show is on now. I'm going to try and record it and check it out

Ahh - another fine episode of Enterprise!

And an added bonus this week - the one and only (or at least the original ) Robocop was in it!

Robocop was on the other side of the game this time - he played a bad guy, and did a fine job.

I'm not going to get in to any spoiler details here - no Spoiler Tags needed this time.

All I will say is that it was a good episode that started to explore some interesting points in this particular point in time (when Enterprise takes place). It was an excellent example of how many things they could do with this show, and sadly will not have the time to explore with its series cut short as it has been.

And once again, the show ended with my LEAST favorite words... "To be continued". And it was just starting to really heat up too. That's how they do it though - they SUCK you right in to the show - to the point you have completely forgotten how long you've been watching. And then BAM! The show ends on an intense point where you're sitting on the edge of your seat just GLUED to what's going on when... "To be continued" flashes across the screen. Once again, I yelled out (out loud) "nooooooo!" Really, I did.

Man - this show is such a good show... this season's episodes have been the best in the series (more or less). I really don't want it to go away. I'll miss it a lot. But just to sound like a broken record... at least it's going down with some really good final shows. Long live the king! Well... "the king" really has nothing to do with Enterprise. It just felt right to say that just then. You know how it is. Or maybe you don't. To be honest with you, I'm not sure how it is myself. I just go with the flow. Be it a good flow that makes sense, or a flow that makes no sense at all, not even to myself. If it feels right, I'll go with it... oh crap. I've forgotten what I was talking about again... Oh yeah. I'll miss Enterprise when it's gone.

MutoidMan - I set our VCR to record Robot Chicken at midnight Thursday night. It did not record The tape ran out before it aired because my wife had THREE other shows set to tape, and not even all of her shows fit. DOH! I'm going to try and take the next airing of it. I really do want to check it out.

MutoidMan Wrote:...I am looking forward to seeing Peter Weller as I do like his work.

Yeah - and he doesn't disappoint in this one! He did an excellent job in his role. I think you'll enjoy the show.

MutoidMan Wrote:As for Robot Chicken, Sunday night at 11:30 PM is a new episode.

Thanks. I'm going to try this again. I really want to check out this show!
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MutoidMan Wrote:...OK, so Empress Sato - man, I was so hoping for Emperor Archer - has taken over the Terran Empire thanks to the main-universe U.S.S. Defiant from from one hundred years in the future...

Hmm. Getting back to this discussion about the evil alternate universe - I was sitting at work today pondering the similarities and differences between the two realities.

Then I had a BIG what if hit me.

What if... much like in the evil alternate universe, the heroic Captain Archer soon meets his demise? Though it would most likely not be at the hands of Sato, something could be in Archer's near future that might bring him down. And seeing how the series is coming to an end - who's to say that Archer doesn't meet his demise in the final episode?

Keeping something like this a secret (from a production stand point) would be unlikely, and I'm just speculating here - but it was an interesting thought I had earlier today.

What do you think?
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All good things...

As was the title of the final episode of ST:TNG, the phrase was worked in to the final episode of Enterprise. Captain Archer said it to Trip. EDIT: Correction - I think it was Reed to Trip in the engine room (just caught a part of a reshowing of it)

I didn't know the last episode would be tonight. I didn't realize that, until during tonight's part two of last weeks "to be continued" showed that at the bottom of the screen during the show... or perhaps it was commercial - but that's how I found out.

So tonight was a two-fer Enterprise night.

Before I proceed - be forewarned there may be spoilers laced throughout this post.

DO NOT READ FURTHER IF YOU HAVE NOT YET SEEN THE LAST TWO EPISODES OF ENTERPRISE.

I'M NOT USING SPOILER TAGS.

I just don't feel like it tonight.


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Part two from last week's show was a good one. Most of the action was up front, but it had me on the edge of my seat. The concept of the show was interesting as was the first Vulcan/human baby - "Elizabeth", the cloned baby of Trip and T'Pal. The emotions were strong in this show, and in a way I kind of felt it myself. That's always a sign of a great show - when the emotion of the show is felt by its audience. The action sequences were driven by great acting and some intense moments. The solemn feeling in the loss that Trip and T'Pal felt when their baby died was also well brought across. And there was a hint of what may come - will T'Pal and Trip pursue further romantic relations?

Well, no sooner than the set up was made, than 6 years in to the future we went in to the final episode of Enterprise. The answer was no - Trip and T'Pal did not pursue romantic relations. They maintained their professional relationship and kept it to that.

The final episode of Enterprise - told from a very interesting method of storytelling - one that is somewhat unique to the Star Trek universe. The last episode was told via a trip to the holodeck on the good old NCC-1701D, during a time when Riker was doing some soul searching.

My first reaction to this move was great delight and excitement. Followed by some disappointment. I mean the whole episode was just past events playing out through a holodeck recreation of what took place, as best the holodeck could recall based on how much of it was actually documented. But shortly after my initial disappointment, I was again enjoying the show and the interesting way of telling the story.

Aside from seeing Riker and Troy trying to look more than 10 years younger than they were, the story worked in an odd way that seemed interesting and fitting.

The Pegasus was about to be discovered and Riker had to decide whether or not to tell Piccard what he really knew of the ship. This was an actual episode of ST:TNG in the last season or two of the show, if memory serves. It was a damn good show too, where Riker shows defiance toward Piccard and their seemingly great commanding relationship was complicated.

In Riker's soul searching, he visits one of the great captains of the past, Captain Jonathan Archer of the NX-01. Through looking in on a the events of Archer's time, Riker was able to find some escape from his complex situation, and learn a few things from Star Trek's great early crews and their moments.

Though the show was told from the view point of Riker looking in on the events and even participating at times, the show was very centered in the time of Enterprise. At the same time, ST:TNG was tied in very well. To me, this created a cool link between Star Trek timelines and characters. It took Enterprise in to more of a Star Trek continuum kind of place... if that makes any sense.

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MutoidMan Wrote:...It was a bittersweet experience because while the episodes were good, I knew they were the last of a show that was being cancelled just when it hit its stride.

Yes, I agree. The show was really getting good and for the first time in many years, I was doing more than just watching an enjoyable show... I was totally wrapped up in each adventure feeling an excitement that I had not felt since... probably back in season 5 of ST:TNG!

MutoidMan Wrote:Why Paramount saw the need to cancel the show is beyond me. They had finally found a writer - Manny Coto - who understood the opportunity that the show presented: the chance to explore the events that shaped the Star Trek universe. This is the stuff the fans wanted to see, and we were finally getting to see it!

I think you were right with your "it was due to inept management" statement. I'm sure there are a lot of factors, but to nutshell what went wrong - I think you nailed it.

MutoidMan Wrote:The most perplexing thing is that now they say that the fans are tired of ST.

I sure wasn't tired of it! I was enjoying it more and more each week... until of course, it ended.

MutoidMan Wrote:They point to the poor reception of ST:Nemesis, which they feel was a great movie and should've been a big hit, as an indication of the apathy with which people now regard ST.

I never saw ST:Nemesis. For some reason it just didn't look good to me in the previews, and after speaking to people who had seen it, I just didn't care to go to it myself. Still haven't seen it. I always told myself I'd rent it if another ST movie came out - so I'd know what might be giong on should something be referenced back to Nemesis. But for now, I know almost nothing about the film, only that it didn't look very good (previews) and I have yet to hear anything good about it from other ST fans.

MutoidMan Wrote:As for the final episode, overall it was good but there was a part that was a little contrived for me. This is probably because Coto didn't write it; Berman & Braga did. It was Trip's death. I felt there was no reason for Trip to die, especially defending the Enterprise from what amounted to little more than a band of thieves. These guys overtook Enterprise, boarded in the blink of an eye and forced the chief engineer to sacrifice his life to defeat them. If a small gang of thugs were that dangerous, how in the world did Enterprise survive the expanse?

Hmm - good points you bring up. I noticed a kind of different feel to the final episode - somewhat of a rushed thing, as if it were rushed through the writing and shooting of it. It was like there were certain objectives they had to meet in the script, and the set up and resolution of those objectives were, like I said, rushed and unrefined. The episode as an ending of the series bit worked overall and it was interesting the way it was told from the perspective of Riker's soul-searching on the holodeck. But the feel of it was kind of off, and this is perhaps because of the different writers and odd sequences you described.

I was a little more open in the final episode - open in the sense that I knew that certain criteria had to be met and the series was cut short, so some things were put out there with little explanation. Like the band of thieves who had the ability to quickly overtake Enterprise and force their way on board. Excellent point you bring up about how off this seemed. Again, I was more accepting of odd events like this because I was aware of production timing, lack of time, and lack of other episodes to set things up. BUT putting stuff like that in there weakens the show and one should never have to allow for production difficulties in explaining events in a show - that detracts from its value.

Now I expected at least one