There have been several fanfics along that line, most of them slash. "Once and Future King" and [url ="http://archiveofourown.org/works/285864/chapters/456088"]"Engineers"[/url] come to mind. I wonder if that pager wasn't meant as a trap for Alan, and Sam just stumbled into the trap first.

Assuming a non-slash, straight-Legacy (meaning: Bradley did not get a sneak peek of digital hell) scenario? Well, a sixty year old man would likely not be sent to Games, but if anyone picked up on the resemblance, they'd Fed Ex him over to Clu. Clu might try passing himself off as Flynn with 20 years of godhood going to his head, or tell Alan just enough "certain point of view" truth to poison things.

Tronzler would be the biggest wild card in the scenario. If Clu's smart, he'll keep Rinzler and Alan as far away from one another as possible. User in one pocket, Program in the other. However, Murphy's Law would mean the pair would meet. It could be in passing, it could be Tronzler getting a look and feeling a pull he's not felt in years. If Clu has a major lapse in judgement, he could try to order Rinzler to attack Alan.

That's when things would go pear-shaped. Yeah, Clu, Alan was a LOT better about overrides, safeties, and Three Laws compliance than Flynn ever thought of being. I'm guessing a kidnapping and running like crazy, possibly to what's left of Argon or to the portal.

By now, word of the chaos gets to Flynn, who will likely tell Quorra to stay put (because Iso within a mile of Rinzler will mean dead Iso) and see what he can do to pull his buddy out of the fire. With luck, this means everyone winds up at his lavish prison in the Outlands. Rinzler is going to be tied down and a brief argument is likely to happen. Flynn arguing for a mercy kill because de-rez would be preferable and there's nothing of Tron left (maybe even likening it to taking Jordan off life support), but Alan starts making the case "No, he's my son, and we're finding another way" That might click something with Flynn; Clu's also his kid, and maybe he never thought of him that way...

I'm betting a mad dash to the portal, possibly using some combined User power to get a broken vehicle fixed quickly. Queue the confrontation, but instead of a sudden betrayal on the light jets, Clu might have a bit of a problem with two wizard-level Users AND a healed Tron. I'm still thinking Flynn makes the sacrifice play, but it spits the other three in analog.

Kat Wrote:Since he does know what the laser is, he's unlikely to make the same mistake Sam made and digitize himself accidentally. So the next question becomes whether he'd do it on purpose. Somehow I've never seen Alan being the adventurous type, so I'd say he's more likely to have a browse through the code from the outside and try to see what he can figure out before he's going to zap himself with a laser, especially since the idea of Flynn being in there would be no more than a hunch (and especially since even if he figures Flynn DID get hit with that thing, he has little reason to think it wouldn't simply be fatal-- Flynn was messing with digitization and had a laser accident {you know Flynn, not the carefullest of girls} and now he's dead, and that sucks but it explains a lot).

I agree that Alan wouldn't make the same mistake that Sam makes, he would see the laser and think of the encom tests. He would probably as you say go through the code or at least some of it. Here's a point though just slightly off topic, would Tronzler show up in the directory as Tron or Rinzler? Think Alan would recognise his own program? Back on topic I think Alan even though he wasn't the adventurous guy like Flynn would probably take a chance, as Sam said he is the only one who thinks he is still out there somewhere.

Kat Wrote:Now, what would Tronzler do? Well, I imagine a user and program have some sort of connection in-Grid, so he might well know Alan. Which would be very interesting indeed, but we'd get to the punch line far too quickly.

This point made me think instantly of what Quorra said to Sam that Clu would detect Flynn instantly if he entered the grid, would the same be said for tronzler? I know Tron was just a program created by Alan in a different way to Clu, but would he still know that he was there on the Grid?

And about the aging, I think we can say Bruce has aged rather well and you can instantly recognise him regardless if you're watching Tron, Babylon 5 or Tron legacy (just to name a few things), even his voice is instantly recognisable. It would be very interesting especially if T:U is canon, would this unite the factions that are spoken of in T:L?? It makes for insteresting speculation

Tzigone Wrote: I do think Alan would think Flynn was alive and grab on to the idea that he was in the Grid. Alan's never accepted the idea that Flynn is dead. And he just got a page. He probably would think it was from Flynn (whose rampant irresponsibility got him trapped inside), I think. But I agree he would not accidentally digitize himself and I don't think he'd do it intentionally, either. At least, not immediately. He wouldn't want to end up like Flynn, after all. And he wouldn't want to leave his loved ones wondering the way Flynn did if he couldn't get back. Now, whether or not he's married to Lora (depending on whether extra-movie material counts), it would be very logical to get in touch with her or with Gibbs (if he's still living and of sound mind) as they would be the only experts he could find on the technology. Really, from his perspective, if Gibbs or Lora could just just enter the "undigitize" instruction on the keyboard (after verifying data integrity), then that's the safest and best thing to do (though it doesn't make for much of a movie). He'd want to tell Sam what he'd discovered, though, before doing anything else.

I'm still not entirely sure what Alan thinks of the page. Or Flynn being gone, for that matter. He never comes out and says he thinks Flynn's not dead. He admits to Sam that he doesn't think Flynn would have deliberately left Sam, but of course, being dead is a good excuse to leave someone not-on-purpose; he seems more to be countering Sam's insinuation that his dad just walked out on him.

And as I've said before (probably about a billion times), Alan and the pager confuses me. He sleeps with this thing because he thinks it's so important, BUT when he does get a page, he waits until the next day to do anything about it and then all he does with it is pass the info off to Sam, hoping Sam might investigate it... some time... perhaps. That's not really something you do if you truly believe that your friend is still somewhere to send you an urgent page on which you will need to act immediately. For that matter, if you have hope you'll still hear from him, why disconnect the phone line from which you will hear? (I am dying to know what instructions Flynn gave Alan with the pager. Should he call the police? Come to the arcade? Read a special set of instructions Flynn will leave somewhere for him that will explain everything and detail how he should help?) And even if he assumed Flynn got into trouble, why would he take 20 years to ring Alan up about it?

I've always sort of wondered if he doesn't just use it as an excuse to light a fire under Sam's ass. "Send him to the arcade, maybe he'll get nostalgic and decide to help me out after all." After all (as I've also said before), what does he expect Sam to find there that trained forensic investigators, and no doubt Alan himself, never found?

Unfortunately, this is one of those things they sort of expect to give to us and we're supposed to take it at face value without thinking about it too hard or asking questions. And this one's a big one for that.

(Although: what didn't occur to me before, is my assumption that Alan isn't familiar with digitization of living beings and therefore wouldn't have reason to think Flynn would survive digitization. After all, an orange is matter but it has no sentience... and he might not know how a laser would transfer sentience or if it would. But, we also don't know how far Encom went with digitization [nor do we have confirmation that the project isn't still going on even in 2010], so it's possible that in the years since T82, they've possibly moved on to live animal subjects or something, and would find out that you can transfer a sentient being into the computer and have it come out still alive.)


I'm not sure, either, how much Clu knew about the pager. Did he know who it would call and why? How does Flynn make contact with it from inside? And where did Clu obtain the knowledge of how to do that/a device that might do it/whatever? Did he get it from Flynn, as in steal it? Or is it something Flynn also gave him, as a safeguard-- "if something happens to me in here, do this to contact someone on the outside"? Does he know it connects to Alan? Does he know it connects to anyone? Did he think it would bring someone in, or was it just a stab in the dark to see what happened, if anything, and whether whatever happened might be able to help him out somehow?

Argh. Should have been a much longer film; there is so much that really should've been explained better, but they didn't have time, so they just sort of, as above, threw it at us half-baked and hoped we wouldn't look too close.

It's telling he was paged well before Sam's stunt, but holds off until after the board meeting and Sam's "check-in" to actually approach the kid about the news. I

I tend to think of it as he was paged after the meeting we saw, but before midnight (when Sam was in jail) and just waited to tell Sam first before he went. I know that's a little wonky with the timeline, but it's a little wobbly anyway, depending on where ENCOM is located. I mean, after the page at the end, he's there at the arcade in a t-shirt (pajamas?), immediately responding, etc.

And I definitely think Alan considered the idea that Flynn was alive somehow, but not having run away. Too much of the talk with Sam was how Alan was the only who thought he was still alive and he was "right about everything" and all that. Plus the way the ARG interview went where he wouldn't say the words and all.abortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion

Kat Wrote:Yes, exactly what I was trying to say. Alan didn't think Sam was going to find anything there except his own conscience (as Alan sees it, anyway-- whether it's *actually* better or worse for Sam to get involved, is another debate entirely).

I am 50/50 on this, I agree that perhaps thats why he decided that Sam should go. But also I think there was a little bit of fear that he was wrong all along and that everyone was right in that Flynn just ran away and is probably dead. For me that explains the expression on his face when Sam tells him he was right about everything. I mean face it, how many times have you been afraid to do something in case you were wrong? It also might explain why Alan was there at the end, he decided that he should go after all and face what he was afraid to do when he got the page.order abortion pill morning after pill price where to buy abortion pillabortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion

Alan is awesome.
I just wish I could eat some of his popcorn !