ChessMess
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Posts: 443 | Caster was not an ISO
on Tuesday, October, 25, 2011 7:27 AM
Just to remove any doubt, he wasn't. Quorra clearly states he is a program that fought alongside the ISO's. Over time we've wondered over the idea that Castor was an ISO, letting it grow on us but no.
He originally was a statistics program (my guess) who reinvented himself to a entertainment program.
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trekking95
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Posts: 2,440 | RE: Caster was not an ISO
on Tuesday, October, 25, 2011 2:52 PM
I never really thought he was anyway.
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IluthraDanar
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Posts: 1,178 | RE: Caster was not an ISO
on Tuesday, October, 25, 2011 9:46 PM
I wrote a fanfic about Castor and this guy who read it posted this. I wasn't sure if he was being serious or what.
"I find it an excellent representation. I know quite a bit about the 'program' named Zuse, and I find your perception of him rather close to the truth. But Zuse may well have a very different reason for disliking and distrusting Users. You see... If my research is to be believed, Zuse's User died in 1995. He may never have found out what happened. He may have only seen that one day...his User stopped speaking to him. He was, in effect, abandoned 15 years prior to the events of Tron Legacy. And Zuse himself is rather older, and not quite a program... He was named after his creator, Konrad Zuse. Konrad Zuse was basically the father of the digital age; he built huge computer terminals. The first, the Z1, was completed in 1938. Go ahead, re-read that. Yes, 1938. But Castor/Zuse is not the Z1, oh no. Castor/Zuse is the modern representation of the Z3. Completed in 1941, the Z3 was one of the first terminals to be Turing-complete. The Z3, the first fully operational electromechanical computer, was partially financed by German government-supported DVL (Deutsche Versuchsanstalt für Luftfahrt, i.e. German Experimentation-Institution for Aviation), which wanted their extensive calculations automated. A request by his co-worker Helmut Schreyer — who had helped Zuse build the Z3 prototype in 1938 — for government funding for an electronic successor to the Z3 was denied as "strategically unimportant". I am sorry to have ranted all of this to you but both Castor/Zuse and his supposed User are dear to me. I thought you simply may be interested to know."
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trekking95
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Posts: 2,440 | RE: Caster was not an ISO
on Tuesday, October, 25, 2011 10:22 PM
Where is the fanfic?
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IluthraDanar
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Posts: 1,178 | RE: Caster was not an ISO
on Tuesday, October, 25, 2011 10:53 PM
| trekking95 Wrote:Where is the fanfic? |
A minor story, one chapter, as I went inside Castor's mind for a few moments.
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Posts: 1,945 | RE: Caster was not an ISO
on Friday, October, 28, 2011 9:41 PM
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Posts: 274 | RE: Caster was not an ISO
on Saturday, October, 29, 2011 12:57 AM
| IluthraDanar Wrote:I wrote a fanfic about Castor and this guy who read it posted this. I wasn't sure if he was being serious or what. |
I'm not sure how seriously to take the idea of Castor being the personification of the Z3 (though it's intriguing), but he definitely seems to have been named for Konrad Zuse, and Zuse did some seriously cool stuff at the dawn of the computing age.
And making Konrad Zuse even more relevant to T: L, there's also this:
| In 1967 Zuse also suggested that the universe itself is running on a cellular automaton or similar computational structure (digital physics); in 1969 he published the book Rechnender Raum (translated into English as Calculating Space). This idea has attracted a lot of attention, since there is no physical evidence against Zuse's thesis. Edward Fredkin (1980s), Jürgen Schmidhuber (1990s), Stephen Wolfram (A New Kind of Science) and others have expanded on it. |
A universe as a digital simulation running on a piece of computing hardware somewhere? Hmm, sounds strangely familiar... 
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ChessMess
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Posts: 443 | RE: Caster was not an ISO
on Saturday, October, 29, 2011 1:20 PM
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IluthraDanar
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Posts: 1,178 | RE: Caster was not an ISO
on Saturday, October, 29, 2011 7:13 PM
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Kat
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Posts: 2,394 | RE: Caster was not an ISO
on Sunday, October, 30, 2011 9:56 AM
| IluthraDanar Wrote:I use the word libations but then I guess I like using the more uncommon words for common things. Libations=drinks or liquid offering. |
Yeah, me too. I don't limit my vocabulary according to what's "popular." Nor, for that matter, do I usually consent to dumb it down. That's what dictionaries are for.
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ChessMess
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Posts: 443 | RE: Caster was not an ISO
on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 6:22 AM
Its interesting to think that they went with the whole 'drinking' of power rather than the more physical plugging in, kinda like how a borg regenerates.
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Kat
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Posts: 2,394 | RE: Caster was not an ISO
on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 7:26 AM
| ChessMess Wrote:Its interesting to think that they went with the whole 'drinking' of power rather than the more physical plugging in, kinda like how a borg regenerates. |
Well, I've speculated on whether they actually NEED to drink energy. Because all we ever see in either movie is it being drunk for fun, like we would drink alcohol. The only time it seems to be necessary is when Quorra's rebooting, and the vial Flynn hands to Sam looks like it's concentrated, and she probably just needs it because she just went through a traumatic event, is unnaturally low on energy, and needs more quickly.
I would think they just naturally get energy from the system just by being in it. After all, when was the last time one of your programs crapped out due to lack of energy? Mine certainly never have. I imagine they're kept recharged by the system itself, and any extra energy is just a bonus, just like you're not about to collapse without a Red Bull but it's fun to drink and gives you an extra boost.
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IluthraDanar
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Posts: 1,178 | RE: Caster was not an ISO
on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 10:38 AM
Question re the Rectifier scene: when Clu plugs in Flynn's disk, we see light spanning the craft and everything on it, plus you hear that sound (love that sound effect). So is Flynn's disk powering up everything? I thought it was just the key to leaving the Grid.
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ChessMess
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Posts: 443 | RE: Caster was not an ISO
on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 2:42 PM
@Kat : Think of how often you see people drinking anything and acting like is a requirement, even though it is. Or food for that matter. But I think your right to a degree, its hard to correlate it to a real world equivalent. Unless you consider power as a drug.
Can't say what that sound/visual effect was for other then they wanted something more than the typical insert cd into computer. We can theorize it represented new code, or more likely, higher system privileges being given to all the programs. Maybe both.
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Kat
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Posts: 2,394 | RE: Caster was not an ISO
on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 6:24 PM
That would be my guess... maybe it gave the ship the permissions to leave the Grid? Like the "ship" equivalent of standing in the portal beam and sending your disc up (though I still have yet to figure out why that seems to be a requirement. Maybe it is indeed an equivalent of the I/O stream in OT and you send your disc up so the laser can read your info and recreate you in the real world?)?
I can't remember which sound you mean, ID, but I keep wondering why the sound of a disc being turned on is the same sound as an old-school SLR camera flash powering up...
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on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 6:41 PM
| Kat Wrote:That would be my guess... maybe it gave the ship the permissions to leave the Grid? Like the "ship" equivalent of standing in the portal beam and sending your disc up (though I still have yet to figure out why that seems to be a requirement. Maybe it is indeed an equivalent of the I/O stream in OT and you send your disc up so the laser can read your info and recreate you in the real world?)? |
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Posts: 2,440 | RE: Caster was not an ISO
on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 7:01 PM
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IluthraDanar
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Posts: 1,178 | RE: Caster was not an ISO
on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 8:24 PM
Topics are like water.....go with the flow, dude.
The sound I mean is not the disk in the outlet sound, although that's cool too. Just listen to the sound when the light seems to roll across the screen starting at 02:50
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trekking95
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Posts: 2,440 | RE: Caster was not an ISO
on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 9:03 PM
Is that your accounts video? Why don't you use the embed code?
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IluthraDanar
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Posts: 1,178 | RE: Caster was not an ISO
on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 10:30 PM
I don't know how to post things like others. It's not a big priority for me to learn. If you want to, I'd appreciate it. Otherwise, people can copy and paste. I reference in case anyone wants to hear what I meant.
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