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AriesT
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RE: Who Should be the Tron 3 soundtrack composer?

on Friday, October, 21, 2011 3:54 PM
This masterpiece trilogy had an amazing, already classic main theme and great song decisions, yeah. Almost everyone who grew up in the late 80s / early 90s will tell you that.
The melody is still present to everyone who knows the movies.

You cannot say that from... let's say The Dark Knight or most other modern Hans Zimmer (and his students') works. Newer film scores mostly are just made for supporting the scene, not being unique or having a remarkable melody for ages. And along came Legacy, which scores with the unique DP style of mixing House and Orchestra.abortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion


 
Nort2011
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RE: Who Should be the Tron 3 soundtrack composer?

on Friday, October, 21, 2011 9:25 PM
Maybe deadmau5 could do it?


 
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RE: Who Should be the Tron 3 soundtrack composer?

on Friday, October, 21, 2011 11:19 PM
AriesT Wrote:This masterpiece trilogy had an amazing, already classic main theme and great song decisions, yeah. Almost everyone who grew up in the late 80s / early 90s will tell you that.
The melody is still present to everyone who knows the movies.

You cannot say that from... let's say The Dark Knight or most other modern Hans Zimmer (and his students') works. Newer film scores mostly are just made for supporting the scene, not being unique or having a remarkable melody for ages. And along came Legacy, which scores with the unique DP style of mixing House and Orchestra.
Actually I like the BTTF soundtrack so much I listen to them on my Mp3 player when I have nothing to do.

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Kaisergrendel
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RE: Who Should be the Tron 3 soundtrack composer?

on Friday, October, 21, 2011 11:33 PM
AriesT Wrote:This masterpiece trilogy had an amazing, already classic main theme and great song decisions, yeah. Almost everyone who grew up in the late 80s / early 90s will tell you that.
The melody is still present to everyone who knows the movies.

You cannot say that from... let's say The Dark Knight or most other modern Hans Zimmer (and his students') works. Newer film scores mostly are just made for supporting the scene, not being unique or having a remarkable melody for ages. And along came Legacy, which scores with the unique DP style of mixing House and Orchestra.

Let John Williams do it if melody is paramount. I don't know if anyone can argue that any other composer has churned out more memorable tunes. If DP should work with another composer in the future, it's him.

From where I see it, DP is just about the best choice for Tron. It worries me that some people think other musicians may do a better or more appropriate job for Tron 3, given that I believe it only gets worse from here on. IMO Daft Punk was a once in a generation occurrence - any attempt to make lightning strike twice will be invariably met with disappointment.


 
Pilgrim1099
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RE: Who Should be the Tron 3 soundtrack composer?

on Saturday, October, 22, 2011 4:52 PM
TRON.dll Wrote:I think Daft Punk should be used to maintain consistency, but that's mostly due to the style of the sound. I don't think they should be choosing random big-name DJs to do the soundtrack. Needless to say, I was a little worried about how Daft Punk's soundtrack for Legacy would turn out until I heard it. Film soundtracks and listening music are two entirely different categories. Daft Punk managed to succeed, and they've proven themselves as effective soundtrack producers.

Though if Tron 3 were to take place in a different computer system, it would definitely have to have a different style of sound to it, if that makes sense. It could be like comparing a song from a World War II game to that of a modern warfare game. Both are great on their own, but they aren't exactly interchangeable.

Again, I think Daft Punk would be good for keeping consistency, buy that's not necessarily a good thing if the visual style of the computer world is completely original. Assuming Tron 3 goes into the Encom system, we're going to be in a completely different computer system that is up-to-date, as opposed to The Grid, which was essentially a world that stopped developing in 1989 when Flynn was trapped inside. It can be assumed that a modern corporate mainframe would look much different, and as such, a different musical style would be necessary to further enforce the fact that we're in a different world than The Grid.

I've been going under the assumption that Tron 3 will take us back to the Encom system. If Daft Punk can pull something off that fits the Encom system, then that's great. They did a great job of "personifying", in a sense, the dark and dangerous atmosphere of The Grid with their score for Legacy. As far as other choices go, Nathan Grigg did a great job with the Tron 2.0 soundtrack, and created something that fit the various worlds Jet went through while still managing to sound reminiscent of the original Tron's soundtrack. As far as big name composers go, Harry Gregson-Williams has done some pretty great stuff that sounds moderately electronic (Metal Gear Solid 2 comes to mind). There's also Wendy Carlos, but I don't know if she's still composing film soundtracks or alive for that matter.

Hans Zimmer is another pretty big-name film composer, and while I think he's definitely earned that big-name status, I don't know if he'd be right for Tron. He sports a much more orchestra-focused style that fits big action military shooter movies/games. Put him in a blender with robots and you get Tron Legacy's soundtrack, though, so who knows.

Definitely Daft Punk. They have to do that to maintain consistency. But they could opt to include other electronic artists to work with DP as a collaborative effort. DP did a nice job with the album which I'm happy with. where to buy abortion pill abortion types buy abortion pill online


 
seelbach
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RE: Who Should be the Tron 3 soundtrack composer?

on Saturday, October, 22, 2011 6:09 PM
I'm going to reply to a few different posts:

I love the BTTF soundtrack/score!
I see what you are saying about how a lot of scores these days(like say Hans Zimmer) are good at accompanying a scene but not particularly memorable. I actually have been less and less impressed by Hans Zimmer, his music is often simplistic and Philip Glass-ish.
At least John Williams and Danny Elfman have done some particularly amazing scores in recent memory. I think Howard Shore's music for Lord of the RIngs was good but at the same time I'm not crazy about it.. it felt a little too fluffy at times for my tastes.

Somebody made a comment about how wouldn't want some random DJ doing the music, and I assure you we aren't talking about anything like that. The artists who we have mentioned so far are in a similar field of music as Daft Punk. Besides the T:L soundtrack, DP are basically a synthesizer/sampler dance-pop band, which is what Justice does, and also Amon Tobin's early works were sampler/computer based. Now Amon Tobin is more of an electronic composer, not using samples from previous music but generating his own sounds. He has done a few soundtracks for film and video games which have had different approaches, and he's referenced influence by the wonderful Ennio Morricone. Also Deadmau5 has come up, I don't know his music super well but he's more of an electronic composer than a DJ or sampling-artist.

Kaisergrendel, in response to your comment, I believe it is possible that another artist could do something as great as DP. When they first announced DP was doing the soundtrack, I had mixed feelings because on one hand I was hoping for something more esoteric and electroacoustic, but then I am fond of DP so I was excited to see what they came up with. And the result to me was a revelation, and I agree they nailed it. It's one of my favourite soundtracks.
So.. my hope, is to have another awesome revelation like that, and I am optimistic about this.
If DP comes back for another one, that's awesome too.

I'm sorry if this is a touchy subject, I don't mean to downplay the greatness of the T:L soundtrack. I've been listening to it a bunch lately, and also I have seen Amon Tobin a few times recently and at his shows, I felt like I was in a Tron movie at times, so that's what inspired the thought. Since I am having a big Amon Tobin phase lately, i will share another track of his, which I think shows potential for being appropriate for Tron:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBgG83H7p54check it out!
I'll stop pushing the issue now


 
Kaisergrendel
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RE: Who Should be the Tron 3 soundtrack composer?

on Sunday, October, 23, 2011 10:12 AM
seelbach Wrote:Kaisergrendel, in response to your comment, I believe it is possible that another artist could do something as great as DP. When they first announced DP was doing the soundtrack, I had mixed feelings because on one hand I was hoping for something more esoteric and electroacoustic, but then I am fond of DP so I was excited to see what they came up with. And the result to me was a revelation, and I agree they nailed it. It's one of my favourite soundtracks.
So.. my hope, is to have another awesome revelation like that, and I am optimistic about this.

I do think another artist could do well in their shoes, but I'm decidedly less optimisitc. My overwhelming feeling is that DP will not be matched if they are replaced. This isn't band loyalty, it's just statistically speaking.order abortion pill morning after pill price where to buy abortion pill


 
AriesT
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RE: Who Should be the Tron 3 soundtrack composer?

on Sunday, October, 23, 2011 12:31 PM
I do not think Tobin fits for a TRON movie. His style is way to experimental for a "normal" sci-fi blockbuster movie. Deadmau5 could not achieve the quality of DP, too. He is good but his style is always the same, kind of. Plus, he is not very good in creating melodies.

However, DP are also no melody gods.

Nevertheless, I still prefer Daft Punk, so does everyone else here.


 
seelbach
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RE: Who Should be the Tron 3 soundtrack composer?

on Sunday, October, 23, 2011 8:38 PM
I guess I should have made a thread "if Daft Punk doesn't return.."
I'm not saying I think it is out of the question that they'd return, I just think it is still quite possible that they won't. Just as there are many franchises that keep the same composer(Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Indiana Jones, etc), there are many that have switched from movie to movie(Harry Potter, James Bond, Star Trek, and.. Tron - thus far).
Anyway, I guess we'll just have to wait and wonder for now.


 
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RE: Who Should be the Tron 3 soundtrack composer?

on Sunday, October, 23, 2011 11:07 PM
I'd like to see Daft Punk do a collaboration with BT. BT has shown he can do film scores and I'm sure he can adapt his style to work well with DP. But, whoever works on the third movie, I hope DP is still composing the score.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgPHuug1y98&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-0vYZIbPv4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGG6T-e0B30

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RE: Who Should be the Tron 3 soundtrack composer?

on Monday, October, 24, 2011 3:40 AM
Darth Tronage Wrote:I'd like to see Daft Punk do a collaboration with BT. BT has shown he can do film scores and I'm sure he can adapt his style to work well with DP. But, whoever works on the third movie, I hope DP is still composing the score.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgPHuug1y98&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-0vYZIbPv4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGG6T-e0B30

I like the second video there, good visuals. The song is apparently based on the Fibonacci number, that's pretty cool, fertile ground for composition.


 
Kaisergrendel
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RE: Who Should be the Tron 3 soundtrack composer?

on Tuesday, October, 25, 2011 8:48 AM
seelbach Wrote:I guess I should have made a thread "if Daft Punk doesn't return.."
I'm not saying I think it is out of the question that they'd return, I just think it is still quite possible that they won't. Just as there are many franchises that keep the same composer(Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Indiana Jones, etc), there are many that have switched from movie to movie(Harry Potter, James Bond, Star Trek, and.. Tron - thus far).
Anyway, I guess we'll just have to wait and wonder for now.

You have my answer - if DP doesn't return, the result will probably be inferior. Just about everyone agrees it'd be a stupid decision not to re-hire them. That said, I also think Tobin may be a worthy replacement - just not as good.


 
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on Tuesday, October, 25, 2011 11:24 AM
Its should be Daft Punk anyway, they ve made a great OST in legacy so why change it in TR3N?



 
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on Wednesday, October, 26, 2011 12:01 AM
NUKEer Wrote:Its should be Daft Punk anyway, they ve made a great OST in legacy so why change it in TR3N?

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RE: Who Should be the Tron 3 soundtrack composer?

on Wednesday, October, 26, 2011 12:48 PM
I wonder if Daft Punk would want to do another.. that's something I wouldn't count on. This might've been a one-off for them, for various reasons. I could see them wanting to return to working on their own albums or something. Being a fairly pop band they might not want to become too strongly associated with a franchise. Doesn't anyone see this as a possibility? I do and so I thought it'd be nice to discuss what some other good musicians would be for Tron. I'm not saying we need to fix something broken, like I'm not saying who would have done a better job on Tron Legacy. I'm surprised at how up in arms you guys are getting, this is not a consequential conversation. It's just for fun.where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online


 
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RE: Who Should be the Tron 3 soundtrack composer?

on Wednesday, October, 26, 2011 12:59 PM
seelbach Wrote:I wonder if Daft Punk would want to do another.. that's something I wouldn't count on. This might've been a one-off for them, for various reasons. I could see them wanting to return to working on their own albums or something. Being a fairly pop band they might not want to become too strongly associated with a franchise. Doesn't anyone see this as a possibility? I do and so I thought it'd be nice to discuss what some other good musicians would be for Tron. I'm not saying we need to fix something broken, like I'm not saying who would have done a better job on Tron Legacy. I'm surprised at how up in arms you guys are getting, this is not a consequential conversation. It's just for fun.

Please don't feel like we're attacking you, however your OP kind of set the tone for discussing whether or not DP should be replaced. I respect that you can change your mind, but what you're saying here is not what you said there.

I'm sure all of us know there's a chance DP won't agree to score a second movie. We also know there's a chance they won't be approached to do a second movie, but I'd have grave doubts about a Tron production that dropped DP because of money.

While we're discussing who should score Tr3n IF AND ONLY IF DP doesn't return, I will echo your vote for Tobin, as well as throw in my vote for Skrillex, a dubstep artist. His attention to melody and rythm and compositional depth makes him an obvious choice for me.


 
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RE: Who Should be the Tron 3 soundtrack composer?

on Wednesday, October, 26, 2011 1:28 PM
Kaisergrendel Wrote:
seelbach Wrote:I wonder if Daft Punk would want to do another.. that's something I wouldn't count on. This might've been a one-off for them, for various reasons. I could see them wanting to return to working on their own albums or something. Being a fairly pop band they might not want to become too strongly associated with a franchise. Doesn't anyone see this as a possibility? I do and so I thought it'd be nice to discuss what some other good musicians would be for Tron. I'm not saying we need to fix something broken, like I'm not saying who would have done a better job on Tron Legacy. I'm surprised at how up in arms you guys are getting, this is not a consequential conversation. It's just for fun.

Please don't feel like we're attacking you, however your OP kind of set the tone for discussing whether or not DP should be replaced. I respect that you can change your mind, but what you're saying here is not what you said there.

I'm sure all of us know there's a chance DP won't agree to score a second movie. We also know there's a chance they won't be approached to do a second movie, but I'd have grave doubts about a Tron production that dropped DP because of money.

While we're discussing who should score Tr3n IF AND ONLY IF DP doesn't return, I will echo your vote for Tobin, as well as throw in my vote for Skrillex, a dubstep artist. His attention to melody and rythm and compositional depth makes him an obvious choice for me.


I stick by my OP, and following comments. No change of heart. recap: I love the DP score. I would like to see more musicians brought into this world. I think there are lots of great composers who would fit into the esthetic. I would be pleased if DP did another Tron, but since I don't count on it, I think it's fitting to consider the possibilities.

Skrillex is somebody who I have recently been introduced to, mentioned in the same breath as Deadmau5. I forget the connection. Anyway, what I heard was cool.
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Kaisergrendel
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RE: Who Should be the Tron 3 soundtrack composer?

on Wednesday, October, 26, 2011 2:17 PM
seelbach Wrote:I stick by my OP, and following comments. No change of heart. recap: I love the DP score. I would like to see more musicians brought into this world. I think there are lots of great composers who would fit into the esthetic. I would be pleased if DP did another Tron, but since I don't count on it, I think it's fitting to consider the possibilities.

That's fair enough, but this was not apparent in your OP, just saying.

Many of us also think letting any other musician/band score this would be a mistake. While you mentioned you think it'd be nice to have other musicians score Tr3n, we responded by saying we don't think it's a good idea. I hope you understand how this fits into the discussion.where to buy abortion pill http://blog.bitimpulse.com/template/default.aspx?abortion-types buy abortion pill online


 
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on Wednesday, October, 26, 2011 2:45 PM
I say no to Daft Punk and yes to Danny Elfman. He has shown to have an exceptional talent of making soundtracks of diverse music styles that fit the mood and type of movie for which he is composing. IMO he would be able to come up with something similar to Wendy Carlos melding of electronic and symphonic music.




 
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RE: Who Should be the Tron 3 soundtrack composer?

on Wednesday, October, 26, 2011 10:42 PM
Kaisergrendel Wrote:That's fair enough, but this was not apparent in your OP, just saying.

Many of us also think letting any other musician/band score this would be a mistake. While you mentioned you think it'd be nice to have other musicians score Tr3n, we responded by saying we don't think it's a good idea. I hope you understand how this fits into the discussion.

Yea I understand and all. I added to the subject the idea of "if DP aren't an option" to try to get over the hurdle of basically everyone viewing it as DP vs whoever. Cause I get it loud and clear that everyone but me agrees DP is the only group/composer out there who is adequate/appropriate. I'm sorry for kicking a dead horse around, and I may be achieving the opposite of what I am trying to do with all the explaining, but I'm trying to demonstrate that I'm not a jerk or unreasonable, just trying to discuss.

In response to the suggestion of Danny Elfman-
That's an interesting suggestion because he is a good composer for symphony and I think he has a good grasp on electronic production... well I can't remember for sure now that I think of it, but I feel like I've heard electronic instruments in his scores. Like for paying tribute to old sci-fi scores with Theremin and/or Ondes Martenot. His Planet of the Apes score had a heavy electronic feel in the opening titles, but it maybe have been instrumental, not unlike Hans Zimmer's Inception. Anyway.. he's definitely one of my favourite composers. He does epic themes, Batman stands out to me as one of the great ones. I know he may be associated with kooky spooky stuff, due to Tim Burton, but I think he's caple of a wide range. And he is someone who could really pull off a Wendy Carlos homage.
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