gridbug Wrote:I never could figure out why the "mainstream" American perception of animated features/programs is that it's kid stuff. Anime has been around for decades and has always had a broad demographic appeal in Japan, and much of what's produced there (hentai being the most obvious) is most definitely NOT for kids. Try parking your kids in front of the electronic babysitter and putting on 'Grave of the Fireflies' and see what happens. *lol*

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RenegadeProgram Wrote:As far as the figures and toys - it would be cool if they added double ball joints to the figures so that you can actually pose them like they can be posed in the movie. There's a guy who goes by the name of Jin Saotome who does custom Transformers, Marvel and Tron figures. Here's a link to his BADASS custom Rinzler figure with several poses: http://www.angelfire.com/mech/jinsaotome/JinsDangerousToys/Tron.html.

Only... it's not Rinzler, it's TRON, which is WAYYYYY more epic!

Sso02V Wrote:They really should have saved the light-up gimmick for the giant super-deluxe figures that could spare the room for electronics. Translucent plastic would've done the job just as fine, without hampering articulation.

No way, man! The small figures were a tie-in to Sam's action figures in the beginning... too bad they didn't have Tron and pre-betrayal Clu. (it wasn't that hard to talk myself out of getting a Rinzler, but if they'd actually had Tron, it would've been all over and Logical Adult Me would've had no chance in that argument.)

Kat Wrote: RenegadeProgram Wrote:As far as the figures and toys - it would be cool if they added double ball joints to the figures so that you can actually pose them like they can be posed in the movie. There's a guy who goes by the name of Jin Saotome who does custom Transformers, Marvel and Tron figures. Here's a link to his BADASS custom Rinzler figure with several poses: http://www.angelfire.com/mech/jinsaotome/JinsDangerousToys/Tron.html. Only... it's not Rinzler, it's TRON, which is WAYYYYY more epic! Sso02V Wrote:They really should have saved the light-up gimmick for the giant super-deluxe figures that could spare the room for electronics. Translucent plastic would've done the job just as fine, without hampering articulation. No way, man! The small figures were a tie-in to Sam's action figures in the beginning... too bad they didn't have Tron and pre-betrayal Clu. (it wasn't that hard to talk myself out of getting a Rinzler, but if they'd actually had Tron, it would've been all over and Logical Adult Me would've had no chance in that argument.)

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cirlin Wrote: trekking95 Wrote: Animated spin-offs are sometimes good. Except Star Wars: the Clone Wars. I like the live action Star Wars, I think that the animation ruined it. You can't be serious. Clone Wars is an excellent show and one of the poster children for animated series that are good. Heck, tons of people who didn't like the prequels are enjoying SW again because of TCW. I've been hoping that the Tron series is as well done as Clone Wars.

Agreed. Clone Wars is a great model for quality animation, writing and character development . . . but I also never cared for the prequels.

As I told my friend once:
"Star Wars the Clone Wars is like a really good sandwich that somebody farted on."
"It's a great sandwich, but it still smells like the prequels, except it's still worth eating"

All things aside, if the show looks even remotely like that test footage, it will be epic. Disney gets what worked with Legacy, that hind-sight will help out alot.

The religious imagery of the original is actually much more over the top than I recalled, but that was mostly over her head. Were I a film student, I could write a Thesis on Disney's usage of Christian Symbolism in it's films of the early 1980s (Black Hole, Tron, Etc.)

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The Black Hole is probably the most egregious example of theology being inserted into sci-fi (Disney sci-fi, case in point). Though not without its flaws, Black Hole is still a pretty solid outing and has some standout set pieces; Tony Perkins getting shredded by Maximilian was a total OMG moment and a shocker from the Mouse House. But it's the final sequence as the Cygnus, the probe ship and it's respective crews plunge into the unknown that really delivers the WTF factor: Maximilian and Reinhardt are "joined" together and sentenced to oversee the firey landscape of damnation, while the remainder of the Palomino crew (after experiencing a 2001-esque psychedelic freak out) coast down a celestial corridor with an angelic figure as their guide. At least John Barry's score is still one of the best of the genre. Well, most of it that is.

Kat Wrote: Vaporware Wrote:Oh yeah, I'll proudly say that my 5yr old daughter LOVED Tron: Legacy. We watched the Original Tron last night and despite some required explanations, she also LOVED it. No 3D required. She actually hasn't been all that excited by by the action figures, but she loves her ID Disc and wants to pretend she's Quorra. It figures that Disney has not made an child's Quorra costume. My daughter also loves Cars, but until *very* recently you couldn't find girls underwear that was anything but Disney Princesses. She would wear the Disney/Pixar boys underwear until some of her school friends found out. Fortunately, Disney *finally* work up and now sells girls underwear for Cars, Toy Story, Finding Nemo, etc. So *maybe* we'll see a Quorra costume by Halloween... Tron underwear? Do want. (And they could TOTALLY branch out with that. You canNOT tell me there wouldn't be a market for *glowing* underwear out there.)

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cool83 Wrote: By the way, Titan A.E. was actually softened for kids. The opening was one of the best I had ever seen. It drew in an adult crowd, but due to its softening, it failed. Let's hope TRON: UPRISING gets it right. Go Disney.

Hang on, you think Titan AE failed because it was too softened at the beginning? I think it failed simply because it was dumb. Aside from the shock and horror of alien destroying the planet, everything else was forgettable. Don't even get me started on that "repair the ship montage" Can't keep those scrappy humans down!

After watching AE, I watched the entirety of Macross Plus, just to get the taste of the film out of my mind.

So.. I agree. Let's hope that Uprising doesn't lead to the same thing. I think the only way they could ruin it now, would be to get William Shattner and Fran Dresher to do all the voices.

By the by, I edited the topic. It now reads kids/young adults as apposed to kids. Just to clarify. In a recent interview with Bruce Boxlietner, he states that they are almost done with the first season. I see big thing for Tron: Uprising.
http://www.moviepropcollectors.com/magazine/2011/08/12/interview-bruce-boxleitner-on-tron-frontier-earth-cowboys-aliens-d23/

cool83 Wrote:No, I thought the opening sequence was incredible. Also, the lead in to the next scene, with music and animation, was also good. Bottom line is the movie was to be R-rated. If by Macross, you mean Robotech, than I an with you. That was the first Anime Saga I ever saw with an actual death of a secondary character. A very cool surprise after seeing G.I. Joes parachute to safety after their crafts were destroyed. Very un-realistic.

Actually I do mean Macross Plus, which was incredible. Plot, animation, music. It was almost perfect. Even the dubbed version was really, really good. It's one of the best animated stories I've seen.

However, I am a die-hard Robotech Fan. Mospeada/New Gen Saga mainly. I fell in Love with the Cyclones and Legioss fighters a few years after the original Tron excitement faded.

Many years later I was treated to Samurai Jack... Also extremely good stuff.

I just can't come to terms with Titan AE. It had the Don Bluth stink on it... the last 7/8 of the film was just ... ugh.