Sso02V
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Posts: 93 | FLYNN OS
on Saturday, August, 06, 2011 2:39 PM
Do you think Flynn hid messages to the programs of different systems into the code of the operating systems he developed?
"Hey computer dudes, Users are real and stuff, be cool."
Maybe he included a copy of Tron in every pack, to help protect the digital citizenry.
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Posts: 2,440 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Saturday, August, 06, 2011 2:47 PM
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Sso02V
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Posts: 93 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Saturday, August, 06, 2011 2:58 PM
You're gonna have to be more specific than that.
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Posts: 779 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Saturday, August, 06, 2011 6:02 PM
he got it from his brain
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Kat
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Posts: 2,394 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Saturday, August, 06, 2011 6:44 PM
I've always wondered if Alan marketed Tron. Because it would seem strange that he wrote this whole program, that he was obviously quite proud of, and then just shelved it as an exercise in "well, I did it." Or was it meant to just be a security program for Encom, and how long did they use it?order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pillwhere to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online
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Posts: 217 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Sunday, August, 07, 2011 8:05 AM
You've gotta wonder how Alan feels about Kevin Flynn making a lucrative video game about the program that he invented.
Particularly if we suspect that Kevin hid the results of the Shiva Laser work to have his own private playground...
Kevin's starting to sound more like Dillinger Sr... One wonders what sort of weird things he'd put in his Operating System code....
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trekking95
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Posts: 2,440 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Sunday, August, 07, 2011 10:27 AM
Boba Fettuccini Wrote:he got it from his brain
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I meant where did he get the info from. What you said is funny though. 
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Posts: 218 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Sunday, August, 07, 2011 12:23 PM
| Kat Wrote:I've always wondered if Alan marketed Tron. Because it would seem strange that he wrote this whole program, that he was obviously quite proud of, and then just shelved it as an exercise in "well, I did it." Or was it meant to just be a security program for Encom, and how long did they use it? |
I suspect the original Tron was designed specfically for Encom mainframes. The tron utility was likely included with each mainframe's system software. I think fair to say that some version Tron was running on Encom systems at least through 2010, if you consider Rinzler to be a version of Tron.
If Tron was continually upgraded to keep pace with technology, there may be an instance of Tron running on each Encom server, and Tron may be a utility included with each installation of Encom OS 12.
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Sso02V
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Posts: 93 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Sunday, August, 07, 2011 12:30 PM
emdeesee Wrote:If Tron was continually upgraded to keep pace with technology, there may be an instance of Tron running on each Encom server, and Tron may be a utility included with each installation of Encom OS 12.
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Kat
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Posts: 2,394 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Sunday, August, 07, 2011 12:52 PM
emdeesee Wrote:| Kat Wrote:I've always wondered if Alan marketed Tron. Because it would seem strange that he wrote this whole program, that he was obviously quite proud of, and then just shelved it as an exercise in "well, I did it." Or was it meant to just be a security program for Encom, and how long did they use it? |
I suspect the original Tron was designed specfically for Encom mainframes. The tron utility was likely included with each mainframe's system software. I think fair to say that some version Tron was running on Encom systems at least through 2010, if you consider Rinzler to be a version of Tron.
If Tron was continually upgraded to keep pace with technology, there may be an instance of Tron running on each Encom server, and Tron may be a utility included with each installation of Encom OS 12.
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But T:L didn't take place on the Encom server, so Rinzler was never at Encom.
(My guess is that if they were marketing Tron publicly, inc. bundled with their OS, they wouldn't have created a game with the same name to confuse people)
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Pilgrim1099
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Posts: 606 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Sunday, August, 07, 2011 2:47 PM
emdeesee Wrote:| Kat Wrote:I've always wondered if Alan marketed Tron. Because it would seem strange that he wrote this whole program, that he was obviously quite proud of, and then just shelved it as an exercise in "well, I did it." Or was it meant to just be a security program for Encom, and how long did they use it? |
I suspect the original Tron was designed specfically for Encom mainframes. The tron utility was likely included with each mainframe's system software. I think fair to say that some version Tron was running on Encom systems at least through 2010, if you consider Rinzler to be a version of Tron.
If Tron was continually upgraded to keep pace with technology, there may be an instance of Tron running on each Encom server, and Tron may be a utility included with each installation of Encom OS 12.
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Problem is that Flynn copied TRON back in 1984 to be installed onto the private server at his basement lab. Tron became Rinzler, I believe, in 1989 after CLU got him and trapped Flynn.
The OTHER Tron who is the original is the ENCOM version. This one has been upgraded over the years and even past 1989. '1989' Tron/Rinzler never got upgraded past that because his user Alan One was'nt around to do that. The original did and is probably still embedded into ENCOM OS 12 or removed.
Rinzler/Tron maximized his 'ceiling' limit with his abilities while ENCOM Tron has most likely surpassed him in power and capacity. ENCOM Tron would kick Clu 2 and Rinzler's asses.
You have to understand that Flynn's server is ISOLATED and cut off. It has no connection to a phone line to access ENCOM and has no Wi-Fi to do that. It was'nt available back in the 80s. Think of Flynn's server as "North Korea" being isolated and cut off with no upgrades or improvement in their civilization in comparison to ENCOM which is internationally connected. That's HUGE. where to buy abortion pill abortion types buy abortion pill online
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Posts: 218 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Sunday, August, 07, 2011 2:49 PM
Kat Wrote:
But T:L didn't take place on the Encom server, so Rinzler was never at Encom. |
While they weren't on Encom's corporate LAN, I imagine the systems in Flynn's arcade were Encom hardware. Certainly the console looked Encom-y. That's all I really meant.
| (My guess is that if they were marketing Tron publicly, inc. bundled with their OS, they wouldn't have created a game with the same name to confuse people) |
Tron (the security program, not the game) is more like a system utility than a flagship product. The Encom marketing material bullet list would probably say something like "integrated network monitoring", rather than "TRON".
...in my imagination anyway. 
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Posts: 218 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Sunday, August, 07, 2011 2:56 PM
Pilgrim1099 Wrote:
The OTHER Tron who is the original is the ENCOM version. This one has been upgraded over the years and even past 1989. '1989' Tron/Rinzler never got upgraded past that because his user Alan One was'nt around to do that. The original did and is probably still embedded into ENCOM OS 12 or removed.
Rinzler/Tron maximized his 'ceiling' limit with his abilities while ENCOM Tron has most likely surpassed him in power and capacity. ENCOM Tron would kick Clu 2 and Rinzler's asses. |
I agree 100%. If Tron code is still used by Encom, it probably doesn't resemble the Tron on Flynn's server much anymore. Poor Tron probably became part of the DRM stack.
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Pilgrim1099
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Posts: 606 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Sunday, August, 07, 2011 3:07 PM
emdeesee Wrote:Pilgrim1099 Wrote:
The OTHER Tron who is the original is the ENCOM version. This one has been upgraded over the years and even past 1989. '1989' Tron/Rinzler never got upgraded past that because his user Alan One was'nt around to do that. The original did and is probably still embedded into ENCOM OS 12 or removed.
Rinzler/Tron maximized his 'ceiling' limit with his abilities while ENCOM Tron has most likely surpassed him in power and capacity. ENCOM Tron would kick Clu 2 and Rinzler's asses. |
I agree 100%. If Tron code is still used by Encom, it probably doesn't resemble the Tron on Flynn's server much anymore. Poor Tron probably became part of the DRM stack.
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Exactly. If ENCOM Tron is encountered, he would most likely be more powerful than he was, definitely past CLU's abilities. Maybe up to MCP level or more like a digital god. Sam would have to reconstruct CLU to hunt for clues of Flynn's pieces (get it!?). Only CLU could sense his user's DNA, not Sam.
And that means CLU would either look like Sam this time around OR a restored version of Flynn with uncorrupted code, not knowing what his previous version did to the ISOs, which could make the relationship between him and Quorra awkward. But this idea of tension works and makes a lot of sense to me.
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Sso02V
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Posts: 93 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Sunday, August, 07, 2011 8:42 PM
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Kat
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Posts: 2,394 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Sunday, August, 07, 2011 11:14 PM
emdeesee Wrote:Kat Wrote:
But T:L didn't take place on the Encom server, so Rinzler was never at Encom. |
While they weren't on Encom's corporate LAN, I imagine the systems in Flynn's arcade were Encom hardware. Certainly the console looked Encom-y. That's all I really meant.
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Oh, definitely. It even SAYS Encom (bottom right corner):
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emdeesee Wrote:Kat Wrote:| (My guess is that if they were marketing Tron publicly, inc. bundled with their OS, they wouldn't have created a game with the same name to confuse people) |
Tron (the security program, not the game) is more like a system utility than a flagship product. The Encom marketing material bullet list would probably say something like "integrated network monitoring", rather than "TRON".
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The utility would likely still have a name, though. You'd have to call it SOMETHING in a command line.
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LWSrocks2
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Posts: 415 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Monday, August, 08, 2011 12:13 AM
Alot of people are saying "Tron couldn't still exist today! As hardware has been upgraded over the last 20 years, they wouldnt just keep upgrading him for that long." But it's entirely possible. Windows has had "Notepad" and "MS Paint" built into their software since their earliest releases.
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Posts: 1,945 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Monday, August, 08, 2011 1:43 AM
Yeah I agree! Tron would always been upgraded..
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And Kevin Flynn wrote the best video game ever invented...
Dillinger wrote the most evil program..
ever invented..
"I want him in the games until he dies playing" -MCP 
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Posts: 948 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Monday, August, 08, 2011 2:14 AM
| LWSrocks2 Wrote:Alot of people are saying "Tron couldn't still exist today! As hardware has been upgraded over the last 20 years, they wouldnt just keep upgrading him for that long." But it's entirely possible. Windows has had "Notepad" and "MS Paint" built into their software since their earliest releases. |
Don't forget about DOS or as it is known today the "command prompt"
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Posts: 218 | RE: FLYNN OS
on Monday, August, 08, 2011 4:55 PM
laphtiya Wrote:
| LWSrocks2 Wrote:Alot of people are saying "Tron couldn't still exist today! As hardware has been upgraded over the last 20 years, they wouldnt just keep upgrading him for that long." But it's entirely possible. Windows has had "Notepad" and "MS Paint" built into their software since their earliest releases. |
Don't forget about DOS or as it is known today the "command prompt"
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Wait, wait, wait - did you just compare Tron with notepad.exe and DOS? What do think about that, Bit?
 
What I've been trying to say is that if a program called Tron exists on production Encom systems, it is likely very different from the original or even the Flynngrid Tron. Such is the lifecycle of software.
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