Vaporware Wrote: Kat Wrote:question for you too. Does your Art of Tron: Legacy say anything about the layout of Sam's "apartment"? Oh yes, quite a bit. built out of shipping crates. labeled "Dumond" as a homage to the original tower keeper. Very spartan, designed for someone living "off the grid" Lots of stuff about the apartment. ...Wish the book had bothered to cover light fighters, but we take what we can get.

Does it give a layout? I've been trying to figure out if it has a second floor, and if not, where on earth Sam sleeps (I don't imagine he's so ascetic as to sleep on the couch, nor do I imagine he'd bother to "make his bed" if he did; seems like the type that'd leave pillows and blankets slung across it).

Vaporware Wrote:ah.. yeah, it didn't mention a second floor specifically. let me go grab it... Okay, there's an industrial ladder in front of Kevin's old Ducati and glimpses of a loft above. Presumably where Sam sleeps. The center part appear to be open, like an atrium and you can see bare I-beams ringing the central living space. The exterior shot clearly show two or three stacked cargo crates making up the building, along with a ring of windows along the top. There's really only a few shots at most. It's actually a pretty cool pad. I wouldn't mind having something like it myself. It reminds me of a "Grain-Bin House."

That's what I was wondering from the screen shots. The outside view, judging from the top windows, seems to have light filtering up the center area, but not the sides (http://www.homeofthenutty.com/movies/screencaps/displayimage.php?album=140&pid=150898#top_display_media)... the camera shoots from overhead at a couple points but appears to catch a bit of edge of floor beneath it (http://www.homeofthenutty.com/movies/screencaps/displayimage.php?album=140&pid=150925#top_display_media)... yet a few shots of Alan seem to show lights in a ceiling directly overhead (http://www.homeofthenutty.com/movies/screencaps/displayimage.php?album=140&pid=150948#top_display_media). All of that kind of suggested "loft" to me, but who knows. (One outside shot with a long window even seems to show a bed with pillow in the corner, but it's hard to tell--look at the tall window on the left corner: http://www.homeofthenutty.com/movies/screencaps/displayimage.php?album=140&pid=150988#top_display_media)

I kind of like it too. Nice secluded location, though the bridge traffic might get loud. Maybe a bit of a fishy smell.

I need to get ahold of this book, I think! Well, I needed to order something else from Amazon anyway.


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Hell, there are places that fab houses out of shipping containers, so it probably wouldn't be that hard, esp. in CA where they'd totally be into that sort of thing. Or, with the kind of money it seems to be implied he has, no doubt he could find somebody creative to give it a go for the right price. Probably not that hard, really...esp. if it was a place where something had previous existed that might have electric lines and plumbing running right to it and all he had to do was hook in. Or, even possible it already existed as a building and he just... bought it. Or rents it. Or whatever. Which actually seems (at least to me) more in-character-- "Yeah, it's a dive but who cares"-- than him taking the time to actually build it/have it built himself. Like, a repurposed place to live. where to buy abortion pill http://blog.bitimpulse.com/template/default.aspx?abortion-types buy abortion pill online

Vaporware Wrote:Yeah... but that's not Los Angeles California. It's "Center City" Which seems to be in Washington State... Perhaps the plumbing and electrical codes are more lax? We already know that big door + one fat security guard is considered adequate corporate security, and that there is a very high cop-to-perp ratio. Seriously, though, probably not a big challenge, just wouldn't seem like the kind of architectural design work that Sam would have been spending his time doing. Still, pretty cool digs. Can't wait to see how Quorra reacts to seeing it....

Damn, I thought it was supposed to be L.A. Strange. Not sure where I got that, then.

I don't imagine Quorra would mind much... how would she know that's not how all users live? Now what *I* would like to see is what she says a few months in when she sees how most people really live, lol.

"Sam! You mean most users actually have BATHROOMS???" (Um, yeah. Where IS...his...bathroom... and stuff? I mean, he does also bathe and stuff right, and not at the local YMCA, as fun as we all know it is to stay there and hang out with all the boys and stuff??)

Vaporware Wrote:I see a lot of people saying that this is set in LA, but the past references (I forget where exactly) as well as Legacy clearly ID "Center City" as the setting. Note that the Police Department that Sam exits is "Center City Police Department" We know that the real-world film was shot in Vancouver and the Geography of the opening shot is not consistent with LA. Personally, I like it. It detached the TRON universe from our own. However, real world physics still hold, which was my whole purpose for starting this discussion.

I kinda prefer when movies are set in real places. Dunno why. Would be nice to know where it is supposed to be, exactly, then. Helpful for us fic writers who'd rather know...

At any rate, I haven't a clue what L.A. is like since I've never been there....but I had gone back and looked at some of the scenes and the police cars/uniforms/etc. aren't LAPD clones like I would've expected if it were "L.A." called something else... (and I DO know all about that... RIP Jack Webb!).

IluthraDanar Wrote:It's like Batman and Superman. They live in a cities that seem very NYC (Not counting that weird city in the more Keaton/Kilmer/Clooney versions), yet are called something else.

Yeah, that's what always bugged me. I was thinking specifically of Batman, but I forgot about Superman. Though, those are such purely fantasy that I can excuse it a little more. (Mind you, I'm picky: I don't like a lot of specific references to a place in a movie or book; just let it be, for the most part, and we'll either figure out where it is or it won't matter, but I don't see a reason to make up a place. Just give us the "any resemblance to actual places" yada yada disclaimer.)

This is SO TOTALLY messing with my fanfic Zen thing, dude. I'm going to have to rewrite a lot of stuff (although dealing with a fictional place makes me feel better about just making stuff up too).

(I see they carefully avoid being specific, but it sure looks like Encom is headquartered in CA: http://www.encominternational.com/offices.htm)

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CLU 3.0 Wrote:Maybe it's Center City, CA. On the ENCOM site that has a map of the offices,One of the blinking ones is definitely in California. Looks like the New York one is blinking too. There's definitely a office in Vancouver too.

Yeah, it looks like they have main "blinking" offices in every continent... CA and New York, probably London, Tokyo, somewhere in northern Australia, somewhere in Sweden, somewhere in Peru... (I have no idea why Sweden or Peru specifically, nor why N. Oz rather than, like, Melbourne or something, but okay. The rest make sense to me, though.)

TRON.dll Wrote: The fact that the Encom press conference ARG event took place in LA, though, implies to me that Encom's corporate headquarters is in California.

That would also be my guess, esp. since Sam went to CalTech and I doubt he was living in the dorms!

Yeah, but it is also "Center City" It's clearly identified (in Legacy) on the Police Station. I seem to recall some reference to "Center City" in the original movie... though I'm not sure where...

Like my original thought for the entire thread. Why bother with a seemingly inconsequential detail (like the sign on the police station) if it was irrelevant?

"Betrayal" causes all sort of problems. The sheer size of the city is one big one. However, we can't argue with the cannon of it, only to decipher how they fit together.

Vaporware Wrote:Yeah, but it is also "Center City" It's clearly identified (in Legacy) on the Police Station. I seem to recall some reference to "Center City" in the original movie... though I'm not sure where... Like my original thought for the entire thread. Why bother with a seemingly inconsequential detail (like the sign on the police station) if it was irrelevant? "Betrayal" causes all sort of problems. The sheer size of the city is one big one. However, we can't argue with the cannon of it, only to decipher how they fit together.

Yeah, I had thought maybe they meant Central Division, but that clearly wasn't even remotely LAPD.

in terms of canon, I guess I'm still going to say L.A., just because Betrayal has that sentence, and the "Encom" website shows them HQ'd in CA, and I'll say Legacy was just weird for some reason since the other two seem to agree.

(Betrayal raises a lot of questions in my mind, but that would be its own thread)