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tomorowlandude Wrote:Those were series three.

Were they?

It's really odd that they spent so much money designing and planning for it only to scrap it at the last moment.

user897returns Wrote: LIT Wrote:Why was Castor not released? In a nutshell, Spin Master was unable to manage the toy line. If they knew how to keep the money coming in and the fans happy, the "likeness issue" would have been resolved in a timely manner and we might have still been collecting TRON toys by them. If a REAL toy company had the license, this thread would not exist.

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user897returns Wrote:Spin Master does not know how to manage (or design in many cases) an action figure line based on realistic human characters, or lines associated with Disney. Air Hogs, Tech Deck, Mighty Beanz, and whatever other crap they make is nothing like action figures. They need to stick to what they are best at.

The action figures were not that bad! Dont you remember the talking/moving face figures? How many companies do that?! And dont call air hogs crap, it just shows you have never had one.

goatdan Wrote:I thought that the line from Spin Master for the most part was really well done. I feel that there were a few issues, which namely were that the line had too many bad characters and not enough good characters, and the way they packed their cases limited the good characters further. Series 1 for the 4" characters should have had Kevin Flynn, Sam, Quorra, Clu and Rinzler. With having an overabundance of Black Guards and Clu's Sentry instead of Quorra, if you were a kid you could get two good guys (one of which was underpacked) and three bad guys. That makes it hard for kids who aren't collecting to want to get them all. Playing with the bad guys and begging your parents to buy them isn't as much fun as the good guys. The 7" characters had the same issue. You had one 'hero' character and three bad guys.

I disagree that the line was really well done. Many Youtube review videos have demonstrated how poorly the figures were made right out of the package when the line debuted last year and in many instances broke rather quickly. Paint app goofs were also noticeable on many of the figures that I have and other reviewers noted that too.

Conceptually, there were goofs too. As an example, the Recognizer case just doesn't look good and the included light-cycle was a joke. The Kevin Flynn and Sam Flynn figures look horrible and I made mention of that when I reviewed them. The diecast light cycles had issues too which I repeatedly showed when I reviewed them. Both the light jets had problems.

There were some winners though. Using my channel as a reference, the deluxe discs and the light cycles have the most views. But that's only 5 products and the rest the reviews I did (approximately 38 if I have it figured correctly) are mostly ignored.

goatdan Wrote:Around town looking at what is left, it proves my point. There are a bunch of Black Guards, Clu's, Clu's Sentries, and Rinzlers. ONE store had Quorra and Kevin Flynn, and I think they just opened a case of figures as they had the exact right mix from a Series 2 pack. One store beyond that had a Sam Flynn.

That's an indication of how poorly the line was marketed by both Disney and Spin Master. Granted, I don't watch a lot of TV but I never saw a commercial air to promote the line at all.

It's also noteworthy that Disney Store is practically giving away what's left of their T:L products. Deluxe figures that were priced for $15 are now listed for $1.99, Ultimate Figures are now $7.99 on the website are two notable examples.

Also, Target has price-slashed their T:L inventory twice and they still can't move it. Again, I think it shows that the hard-core toy-buying community felt the overall line was a flop in spite of the gimmicks like the impulse projection technology.

goatdan Wrote:Beyond that major issue, I feel that the molds were good, the packaging were good, The accessories were good. The glowing figures was a neat thing. The moving projections was damn cool and as a kid I would have found that absolutely awesome.

Using the lack of sales to this day as a reference, I think the majority of the toy-consuming community is probably in disagreement with you. The molds were decent on some of the figures, yes, but the Kevin Flynn and Sam Flynn core figures were horrible likenesses of the actors who played them. Quorra didn't even get a face and looks horribly emaciated.

What manufacturers have to realize is that the consumers who buy these items for either themselves or their kids are watching video reviews on sites like Youtube. And in these particularly poor economic times, consumers aren't going to pay hard-earned cash for a product that several reviewers demonstrate is poorly made on a continuous basis.

goatdan Wrote:If a place like Mattel had the line, we might still be getting limited edition collectors figures like we do for Ghostbusters or He-Man, but Disney wanted and wants to sell Tron to kids -- the idea was to make Tron into a Pirates of the Caribbean-like tent pole movie with upcoming sequels (thus the cameo by Cillian Murphy in Legacy, it was to make seeds for the next Tron). Disney would have rather given the license to a Spin-Master to try to sell a million characters to kids, and not to a Mattel to sell a couple hundred thousand to collectors.

Mattel has done some decent work from what I've read but I think Hasbro would have been a better choice as I seem to see them produce more movie tie-in's than Mattel. The recent Captain America line has been getting a lot of attention, enough so that I took a few minutes to look at some of the products at a brick-and-mortar store yesterday.

Granted, I'm not an avid toy collector but even to me, I was fairly impressed with the work on many of the figures I looked at. The movie Captain America (called "Super Combat" if I remember reading that correctly) looks like it has a very nice sculpt on it and the accessories have nice detailing too. The articulation is also very done very well from what I've seen. The boxed and blister-packed vehicles didn't have much appeal to me but I'm sure the younger audience will like them.

Also, one has to keep in mind that Tron has a very selective appeal to the majority of folks out there. I like it, and so does everyone else here on this and other Tron-themed forums, but that's just a tiny blip of the overall SF community. Tron and Tron: Legacy don't have the broad-based appeal of a juggernaut like a Star Trek or a Star Wars so if Disney was looking to turn it into a franchise like Pirates Of The Caribbean, I think they need to re-think that before they green-light another Tron film.

I really think that this Tron Uprising animated series is going to be the tell of the tale. If it bombs, that's all she wrote for the Tron franchise.

No one is getting banned for saying hell.

Either you like the toys or you don't like them, its nothing to get upset about. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, just keep things cool in here. I don't want this thread getting out of control, we've had too many of those in the past.

trekking95 Wrote: BlueTronWarrior Wrote:No one is getting banned for saying hell. Either you like the toys or you don't like them, its nothing to get upset about. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, just keep things cool in here. I don't want this thread getting out of control, we've had too many of those in the past. Sorry. And I am new so I don't know about the past here. Was it bad? Where there lots of trolls? I used to be a member of StarTrek.com and I was banned because the trolls there rule the place. It was all over and the Admins banned the trolls once a week so they did have time to have fun. And I was not banned for being a troll, I am not like that.

A while ago we had some issues with trolls (mostly shock images and personal attacks), but that was a very short period and we haven't really had anything like that since.

With the release of Tron Legacy and its related materials, there's been a pretty big wave of new members, a lot of them with differing opinions and a lot of them who don't like people with differing opinions.

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trekking95 Wrote: user897returns Wrote:Umm, no. I have messed around with several Air Hogs, and they worked for the mostpart. The TRON Legacy Air Hogs were a DISASTER and do not work worth a crap, and look like hell. Kids are still the primary concern for toy companies like Mattel and Hasbro. I will always feel that they could have done justice to TRON and had a longer running toy line. To each their own. Don't take things so seriously. Can he get banned for saying hell so much? And I have a Tron air hogs and it is fine thank you very much!

The Tron 'air hog' is a piece of s****. If you don't like it I don't know what to tell you.

It's easily the worst thing that Spin Master put out, and it's really hard to believe that these 'air hogs' are something that the company is known for. How they screwed up their main product so badly I'll never know.

I like a lot of the other stuff they put out, although it's not perfect I'm glad to have my shelf full of Tron toys. But the Tron air hog is a total piece of crap.