IluthraDanar
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Posts: 1,178 | RE: proving degradation of flynn's memories
on Tuesday, June, 07, 2011 9:10 PM
Maybe he went through the process of elimination. Who would know about the Grid? His son, maybe Alan if he accidently was playing with the laser. Alan he would know. Lucky guess, Sam?abortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion
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Kat
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Posts: 2,394 | RE: proving degradation of flynn's memories
on Tuesday, June, 07, 2011 9:55 PM
| IluthraDanar Wrote:Maybe he went through the process of elimination. Who would know about the Grid? His son, maybe Alan if he accidently was playing with the laser. Alan he would know. Lucky guess, Sam? |
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rimwall
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Posts: 507 | RE: proving degradation of flynn's memories
on Wednesday, June, 08, 2011 12:38 PM
i forgot to add that it is noteworthy that the static
and the data loss display occurs only during the
coup recollection.
flynn's flashback of the early days of the grid
had no static.
flynn's flashback of the first meeting with the iso
had no static.
flynn's flashback of the destruction of the iso city and portal closing
had no static.
the only scene that contains static is the coup.
i think that is significant.
it's like i could almost hear the director telling the effects team
to put in the static and data loss screens in the coup scene and only
the coup scene.
what i cant figure out is whether the data loss occured while
the coup was happening or -
whether the data loss was happening during the re-telling of
the story to sam.
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cool83
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Posts: 411 | RE: proving degradation of flynn's memories
on Wednesday, June, 08, 2011 1:11 PM
What if the Kevin Flynn, that we saw, was just another more recent copy. That would explain the break in memory data. It would also mean he is still on the grid, waiting for a sequel.
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ChessMess
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Posts: 443 | RE: proving degradation of flynn's memories
on Wednesday, June, 08, 2011 2:27 PM
This makes me wonder, what could CLU have even done to Flynn? Clu can't repurpose him, I doubt he could imprison him, what could he have done?
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Kat
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Posts: 2,394 | RE: proving degradation of flynn's memories
on Wednesday, June, 08, 2011 5:38 PM
| ChessMess Wrote:This makes me wonder, what could CLU have even done to Flynn? Clu can't repurpose him, I doubt he could imprison him, what could he have done? |
Good question. Let's assume for a second that the speculation that Tron didn't kill Clu because he couldn't is true. Then could Clu kill Flynn? I would think not.
Perhaps he couldn't, and he just didn't know it. Which might also explain why Flynn didn't seem afraid of his attack at the portal. He was afraid Clu might get to the real world, or that he might hurt Sam and/or Quorra, but he didn't seem afraid that Clu could hurt HIM.
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IluthraDanar
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Posts: 1,178 | RE: proving degradation of flynn's memories
on Wednesday, June, 08, 2011 8:53 PM
| ChessMess Wrote:This makes me wonder, what could CLU have even done to Flynn? Clu can't repurpose him, I doubt he could imprison him, what could he have done? |
Clu had his disk on his back the whole time, yes? I mean when he was approaching Flynn? He did pull it out to attack Tron though, another program.
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rimwall
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Posts: 507 | RE: proving degradation of flynn's memories
on Thursday, June, 09, 2011 1:59 AM
Kat Wrote:| ChessMess Wrote:This makes me wonder, what could CLU have even done to Flynn? Clu can't repurpose him, I doubt he could imprison him, what could he have done? |
Good question. Let's assume for a second that the speculation that Tron didn't kill Clu because he couldn't is true. Then could Clu kill Flynn? I would think not.
Perhaps he couldn't, and he just didn't know it. Which might also explain why Flynn didn't seem afraid of his attack at the portal. He was afraid Clu might get to the real world, or that he might hurt Sam and/or Quorra, but he didn't seem afraid that Clu could hurt HIM. |
that's true.
even at the portal clu could not kill flynn
clu probably does not have the mental characteristic for
Deicide or even patricide.
patricide is definitely not part of flynn's mental make-up.
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Kat
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Posts: 2,394 | RE: proving degradation of flynn's memories
on Thursday, June, 09, 2011 8:01 AM
rimwall Wrote:Kat Wrote:| ChessMess Wrote:This makes me wonder, what could CLU have even done to Flynn? Clu can't repurpose him, I doubt he could imprison him, what could he have done? |
Good question. Let's assume for a second that the speculation that Tron didn't kill Clu because he couldn't is true. Then could Clu kill Flynn? I would think not.
Perhaps he couldn't, and he just didn't know it. Which might also explain why Flynn didn't seem afraid of his attack at the portal. He was afraid Clu might get to the real world, or that he might hurt Sam and/or Quorra, but he didn't seem afraid that Clu could hurt HIM. |
that's true.
even at the portal clu could not kill flynn
clu probably does not have the mental characteristic for
Deicide or even patricide.
patricide is definitely not part of flynn's mental make-up.
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Well, I meant that he physically couldn't for some reason... mentally I think he could have managed. After all, we assume genocide et al wasn't part of Flynn's mental makeup either...
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Posts: 274 | RE: proving degradation of flynn's memories
on Friday, June, 10, 2011 2:10 AM
Kat Wrote:| ChessMess Wrote:This makes me wonder, what could CLU have even done to Flynn? Clu can't repurpose him, I doubt he could imprison him, what could he have done? |
Good question. Let's assume for a second that the speculation that Tron didn't kill Clu because he couldn't is true. Then could Clu kill Flynn? I would think not.
Perhaps he couldn't, and he just didn't know it. Which might also explain why Flynn didn't seem afraid of his attack at the portal. He was afraid Clu might get to the real world, or that he might hurt Sam and/or Quorra, but he didn't seem afraid that Clu could hurt HIM. |
I think that may well have been the case.
It's possible that Clu did know neither of them could harm the other directly. Realizing what kind of power Flynn could exercise over the Grid from the "other world", perhaps the goal of the attack was simply to capture Flynn, or at least delay him long enough to keep him from reaching the portal before it closed. Once Flynn was trapped on the Grid, the only way to stop Clu would be reintegration - and either Clu didn't know about that, or Clu did know but was confident Flynn would never sacrifice his own life just to destroy him. (And he was right. But Flynn was willing to sacrifice himself to save Sam, which was something Clu probably never anticipated.)
It seemed like Clu's attacks could still hurt Flynn, though. If that's the case, I can easily imagine Clu torturing Flynn if he had caught him, especially if he knew that no matter how brutal he was, Flynn wouldn't derez. So even if Clu couldn't kill him, Flynn still would have had strong motivation to avoid being captured.order abortion pill morning after pill price where to buy abortion pill
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