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Kat
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Implications of having an identity disc

on Wednesday, May, 04, 2011 7:34 PM
So if a disc holds everything you've ever done or learned...then wow, it's a pretty sensitive piece of equipment, isn't it? Anybody who looks at what's on it will know everything you've ever done. EVERYTHING. Get in a fight in the stands at the disc games? Wank last night? Pick your nose while riding your lightcycle? Stare at that hot program's boobs when your significant other wasn't looking? Tell off your friend? It's all right there. That is REALLY CREEPY. Think of all the things you'd think twice about doing if you knew it was recorded like that.

I mean, say you call off work one day (not that programs do, but humor me). The next day, you go back and your boss wants to see your disc and see if you were really sick.

It'd make solving crimes pretty easy, but can you imagine the search warrant they'd need for one of those things???

I would imagine there'd be a good business in black-market disc erasures, eh?

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IluthraDanar
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on Wednesday, May, 04, 2011 8:51 PM
Yep, looks like programs have no secrets. I wonder who gets to ask though. Sentries most like. Black Guard, definitely.

Now in Evolution, Castor asked Q for her disk and made an addition, but I didn't think Castor could do that. Still, I incorporated it into one of my fics that he can. So can anyone change your disk as well as ask to see it?on line abortion pill misoprostol dose abortion medical abortion pill online


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on Wednesday, May, 04, 2011 9:02 PM
Sort of the point is to show an element of Fascist rule, where "Big Brother" knows everything you do and everywhere you go. Kind of like in the novel "1984"...

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IluthraDanar
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on Wednesday, May, 04, 2011 9:10 PM
ShadowDragon1 Wrote:Sort of the point is to show an element of Fascist rule, where "Big Brother" knows everything you do and everywhere you go. Kind of like in the novel "1984"...

I'm pretty sure Castor cornered the the "black market" on altering Discs to have false data on it.

Makes me wonder, what would a forged disk have on it? False ID, duties, history? He said they're hard to come by. Why?


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RE: Implications of having an identity disc

on Wednesday, May, 04, 2011 9:13 PM
IluthraDanar Wrote:
ShadowDragon1 Wrote:Sort of the point is to show an element of Fascist rule, where "Big Brother" knows everything you do and everywhere you go. Kind of like in the novel "1984"...

I'm pretty sure Castor cornered the the "black market" on altering Discs to have false data on it.

Makes me wonder, what would a forged disk have on it? False ID, duties, history? He said they're hard to come by. Why?

All if everything on a disc is like recorded history, as if you havd a reality show camera following you every second of your waking life, it'd take just as much time to falsify the data as it would for it to record naturally. Essentially making a lifelong fake movie.
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RE: Implications of having an identity disc

on Wednesday, May, 04, 2011 9:40 PM
IluthraDanar Wrote:Now in Evolution, Castor asked Q for her disk and made an addition, but I didn't think Castor could do that. Still, I incorporated it into one of my fics that he can. So can anyone change your disk as well as ask to see it?

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Kat
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RE: Implications of having an identity disc

on Wednesday, May, 04, 2011 10:14 PM
IluthraDanar Wrote:
ShadowDragon1 Wrote:Sort of the point is to show an element of Fascist rule, where "Big Brother" knows everything you do and everywhere you go. Kind of like in the novel "1984"...

I'm pretty sure Castor cornered the the "black market" on altering Discs to have false data on it.

Makes me wonder, what would a forged disk have on it? False ID, duties, history? He said they're hard to come by. Why?
Probably hard to make. And maybe you can't manufacture a disc--just repurpose one, which means you need to find one to begin with.

(In my fic about the hacker program, she actually carries a decoy disc when she goes into other systems so if she gets caught, nobody knows who she is or how she got in. It actually doesn't even hold information at all--just looks like a regular disc and you can use it as a weapon):

One of his underlings handed him my disc. No problem there; I wasn’t stupid enough to carry my real disc when I went out on these things and he wasn’t going to find out anything from the fake decoy I carried; it couldn’t even hold information and was merely a weapon. He quickly discovered this fact, though no doubt he wasn’t surprised. Any halfway-decent hacking program would be equipped the same and there was no way he didn’t already know I was more than halfway-decent.


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Aerial_Zero
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on Wednesday, May, 04, 2011 10:58 PM
Having an identity disc would be awesome until your boss wants to see it

Hmm that is an interesting distinction between adding and altering a disc. I had forgotten that part in Evolution where Zuse did that. I would also agree that obtaining either a forged disc or decoy disc would be very hard to make and hard to find. Just the thought of trying to re-record my daily life is giving me a cyber-headache

Kat, that is a very cool idea about your hacker program. I never thought of it but a decoy disc would come in quite handy

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mastercilinder
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on Wednesday, May, 04, 2011 11:11 PM
I was always under the impression it just recorded scores, experience, games completed etc. Like an RPG character sheet.

"Everything you do or learn . . ." Would obviously mean more, in a certain sense, but I though it meant everything you do on the game grid.

I guess Legacy just proved it's everything.

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rimwall
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on Wednesday, May, 04, 2011 11:34 PM
maybe that's why that program that was afraid of the games
jumped to his death. he did not want to be issued a blank
disk since he was a rebel. and a blank disk will record
all his rebel contacts.

but in order for that theory to work we'd have to say
that rectification would mean being issued a full disk
(instead of a blank disk) that overrides all the
programs previous functions and memories.

a one-size-fits-all cookie cutter disk.
slap on a disk and they have an instant sentry
with knowledge necessary for performing various
sentry duties. instant army basic training.
instant compliant soldiers, since their memories
have been overridden or suppressed.


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RE: Implications of having an identity disc

on Thursday, May, 05, 2011 1:07 AM
ShadowDragon1 Wrote:Sort of the point is to show an element of Fascist rule, where "Big Brother" knows everything you do and everywhere you go. Kind of like in the novel "1984"...

I'm pretty sure Castor cornered the the "black market" on altering Discs to have false data on it.

You are right. and if you want to see how it relates to real life..
just look at those implantable RFID chips
that can track people and record their every move
and everything they buy etc...

Yes it's pretty creepy..
the thing I like about and Identity Disc..
is before they can read my disc.. i would
have derezzed the programs trying to take it from me..
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Kat
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RE: Implications of having an identity disc

on Thursday, May, 05, 2011 6:48 AM
MCPcomputer Wrote:
ShadowDragon1 Wrote:Sort of the point is to show an element of Fascist rule, where "Big Brother" knows everything you do and everywhere you go. Kind of like in the novel "1984"...

I'm pretty sure Castor cornered the the "black market" on altering Discs to have false data on it.

You are right. and if you want to see how it relates to real life..
just look at those implantable RFID chips
that can track people and record their every move
and everything they buy etc...

Yes it's pretty creepy..
the thing I like about and Identity Disc..
is before they can read my disc.. i would
have derezzed the programs trying to take it from me..
I wonder if you can destroy your disc...

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rimwall
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RE: Implications of having an identity disc

on Thursday, May, 05, 2011 8:21 AM
Kat Wrote:
(In my fic about the hacker program, she actually carries a decoy disc when she goes into other systems so if she gets caught, nobody knows who she is or how she got in. It actually doesn't even hold information at all--just looks like a regular disc and you can use it as a weapon):

One of his underlings handed him my disc. No problem there; I wasn’t stupid enough to carry my real disc when I went out on these things and he wasn’t going to find out anything from the fake decoy I carried; it couldn’t even hold information and was merely a weapon. He quickly discovered this fact, though no doubt he wasn’t surprised. Any halfway-decent hacking program would be equipped the same and there was no way he didn’t already know I was more than halfway-decent.

was the hacker program caught in this scenario?

what's preventing the bad guys from slapping on a blank disk on the hacker program?

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RE: Implications of having an identity disc
on Thursday, May, 05, 2011 10:42 AM
oops forgot the implicaitons part.

if a blank disk can read and store the entire memories
of a program - the implication is that the disk now
becomes the perfect interrogation tool/technique.
probably even better than truth serum.

the blank disk now becomes a must-have accessory for
grid law enforcement.

side note: we have never actually proven beyond doubt
that blank disks stores all the memories.

in terms of the tron1 story - the MCP actually put
clu 1 into an interrogation room to be tortured to get
information.

if a blank disk can really get all memories then the
MCP should have just slapped on a blank disk on clu 1
instead of torturing him.
(assuming the disk properites and capabilites in
tron 1 and tron legacy are the same)
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RE: Implications of having an identity disc

on Thursday, May, 05, 2011 10:56 AM
Does anyone else see a name on the above post? Looks like SOMEONE found themselves a forged disc...

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rimwall
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on Thursday, May, 05, 2011 11:01 AM
sorry that was me. my browser messed up

i had two tabbed windows of tron sector
one was logged in the other not logged in
i posted on the window that was not logged in.
and now i can't even edit it.


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ShadowSpark
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RE: Implications of having an identity disc

on Thursday, May, 05, 2011 5:03 PM
Kat Wrote:I wonder if you can destroy your disc...

Would you want to? What would happen if you did? We know that altering the info on your disk can affect you, so if you destroyed it, what would happen then?


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Kat
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RE: Implications of having an identity disc

on Thursday, May, 05, 2011 8:09 PM
rimwall Wrote:
Kat Wrote:
(In my fic about the hacker program, she actually carries a decoy disc when she goes into other systems so if she gets caught, nobody knows who she is or how she got in. It actually doesn't even hold information at all--just looks like a regular disc and you can use it as a weapon):

One of his underlings handed him my disc. No problem there; I wasn’t stupid enough to carry my real disc when I went out on these things and he wasn’t going to find out anything from the fake decoy I carried; it couldn’t even hold information and was merely a weapon. He quickly discovered this fact, though no doubt he wasn’t surprised. Any halfway-decent hacking program would be equipped the same and there was no way he didn’t already know I was more than halfway-decent.

was the hacker program caught in this scenario?

what's preventing the bad guys from slapping on a blank disk on the hacker program?

Yes she was--hence why the main security program in the system she busted into has her and pulled her disc (or, "disc.")

And it didn't matter what they gave her. She wasn't fodder for the games; it doesn't work like that in this story. They wanted info; she was trying to steal some pretty bad files (corrupt politician involved in some sort of weapons sales or support of terrorism is the idea at this point though that might change). (though the head of security did ask her to join up because he was impressed when she fought them--which we assume would include some sort of repurposing/rectification to erase any loyalty to her original user. But since she WAS impressive--that is, well-coded--she told him to go f--- himself, which didn't surprise him either)

I haven't decided how to end it. They do end up torturing her to try to find out what she was after, who her user is, etc. So far I have it just ending with They sure as hell didn't learn anything from me. With the implication that she is tortured then derezzed.


And I might leave it there--prior to her getting caught, she got the files and sent this other program back to her user with them*, and since it's pseudo-noir, I think I'm just going to leave it that we don't know if the other program got there.

*(language warning)

They were coming. The important thing was getting the information to my user. And I already knew we weren’t both going to make it out of here. Shit.

My decision took a split second. Fuck, developing scruples was a bitch; I much preferred self-preservation. I handed the folder to Xarily.

“Get the hell out of here. NOW. As fast as you can if not faster. Go, don’t stop, don’t look back, don’t engage anyone you see, no matter what happens. Just run like hell and get this to my user no matter what you have to do.” Her eyes were wide.

“What are you going to do?”

“Make damn sure you get there. GO.”


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Kat
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RE: Implications of having an identity disc

on Thursday, May, 05, 2011 8:31 PM
ShadowSpark Wrote:
Kat Wrote:I wonder if you can destroy your disc...

Would you want to? What would happen if you did? We know that altering the info on your disk can affect you, so if you destroyed it, what would happen then?
Well, if you're about to get caught in a big way having done something you shouldn't have, whatever it is might still be preferable... think of it as being like taking a hammer to your hard drive as the Feds are pounding down your door.

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on Thursday, May, 05, 2011 9:05 PM
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