TronFAQ Wrote:Since DX11 and Win 7 won't exactly be new any more by the time BF3 is released, I don't really see it as a big deal. Of course, I'm sure a lot of people will disagree. (What! I have to upgrade! Nooooooo! )

Software improvements have long flown in the face of, "If it isn't broken, don't fix it."

I've already experienced more problems with Windows 7 in the short time I've used it, than I have with Windows XP in the past 5+ years. Plus its easier to use.

Every new OS that comes out is more idiot-proof than the previous version, which makes it even harder for people who know what they're doing, to do what they want to.

TRON.dll Wrote: Kona Wrote:Meh.... you do need to buy two disc to play together in co-op mode Actually, I found out that the game supports split-screen co-op if you have a 360 or PS3 controller. Requires a bit a tweaking, but it works great. Unfortunately, I don't get rumble on my TRON 360 controller in split-screen co-op. http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1847904 This method also works with Left 4 Dead, but only with two players. So, one disc, right?

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Kona Wrote: TRON.dll Wrote: Kona Wrote:Meh.... you do need to buy two disc to play together in co-op mode Actually, I found out that the game supports split-screen co-op if you have a 360 or PS3 controller. Requires a bit a tweaking, but it works great. Unfortunately, I don't get rumble on my TRON 360 controller in split-screen co-op. http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1847904 This method also works with Left 4 Dead, but only with two players. So, one disc, right? I have it on PC. Is that what your talking about?

Yes. Since the 360 and PS3's controllers work via a USB interface (PS3 controllers have USB charging cables that I think can be used for PC connections), the game can recognize them and they can be used as controllers. The guide I posted assumes a 360 controller is being used, but I would think it would work with a PS3 controller, as well.

Since the code for splitscreen mode from consoles is in the PC version of L4D and Portal 2, you can do splitscreen multiplayer with one player on a controller and another on keyboard/mouse. Accessing splitscreen mode just takes a bit of tweaking as seen in the tutorial.

Tron Fanatic Wrote: I've already experienced more problems with Windows 7 in the short time I've used it, than I have with Windows XP in the past 5+ years.

I've had exactly the opposite experience. On the same hardware, Win 7 has been less problematic and more stable than XP. In the 6 years that I used XP regularly, parts of the OS (like Explorer.exe) would crash maybe once every couple of weeks, and I'd still get the occasional blue screen as well. On Win 7, I've had zero of either since I started using it about a year and a half ago. ZERO crashes or problems. Everything just works. Meanwhile, Vista was worse than both. It just plain sucked.

One thing I'll definitely agree with, is that Microsoft took away a few features in 7 in the name of "ease of use", but in reality they made accomplishing some tasks more difficult. I still use XP on my second machine, and there are a few features I do miss.

TRON.dll Wrote: Actually, I found out that the game supports split-screen co-op if you have a 360 or PS3 controller.

Heh, I'm surprised Valve left that in again. I think last time they didn't intend for people to use it and weren't expecting anyone to find it. I guess this time they said what the hell, let's leave it in anyway.

TRON.dll Wrote:I'm surprised they don't fully support it and advertise it as a feature on the Steam Store page (by adding local co-op to the features list; See Magicka and Magic the Gathering). I know people who actually take local multiplayer into consideration when purchasing PC titles, as weird as that sounds, lol. Just a missed advertising opportunity, in my opinion.

With what I've seen of the kind of precision necessary in the coop game, I can't even see anything but LAN play being fast enough.


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Tron Fanatic Wrote: TRON.dll Wrote:I'm surprised they don't fully support it and advertise it as a feature on the Steam Store page (by adding local co-op to the features list; See Magicka and Magic the Gathering). I know people who actually take local multiplayer into consideration when purchasing PC titles, as weird as that sounds, lol. Just a missed advertising opportunity, in my opinion. With what I've seen of the kind of precision necessary in the coop game, I can't even see anything but LAN play being fast enough.

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