After watching the blu-ray of the original TRON, I was left with mixed feelings. I liked the updated colors, and there seemed to be a few seconds worth of material I never saw before. However, I feel that maybe the original TRON works best at standard definition.

In the computer world, there seems to be a massive amounts of flickering and harsh edges around the suit lights throughout the whole movie.

During the scene where Ram and Chrom meet, right before they transition to "meanwhile in the real world" where Flynn is directing Clu. There is massive amounts of artifacts around Ram's helmet Also, there is one instance of his helmet "tearing" apart in this scene.

During the closeups of Sark's face, you can actually see the frames shifting color slightly. Like they had to do some copy and pasting from other reels. Around the Jai-alai (scoop-ball game) scene, when Sark is remembering the MCP saying "I want him in the games until he dies playing".

During some screen pans, there is a lot of choppiness. One of them involved Alan. I think it was around the popcorn scene, where he's putting on his jacket to go meet Dillinger.

I'm watching on a LG 32LH30 32" 1080p 60hz set, the disc is played through a fully updated Slim PS3.

My disc is from THE ULTIMATE TRON EXPERIENCE box set, the one with the light-up disc display.

Can anyone else confirm or deny these visual issues?
Can anyone compare and contrast with the DVD version?
Or other non-ultimate box set Blu rays of the original TRON?

If you have a 120hz set or greater, please compare with the "motion-flow" or whatever turned on and off.

Thanks.

User897 Wrote:It could be because your PS3 is outputting 720p.

I'll double-check, but I'm sure it was outputting 1080p.
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I haven't seen the Blu Ray yet...
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Pretty much what Logansneo said.

But, my beef lies more with their 'color correction' choices.

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Sark's torture scene going through the grimdark filter looks really great [because really, who can say no to high-octane nightmare fuel?] - even if it kinda serves to highlight one of David Warner's flat acting spats.

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And furthering my bawwwing over the 'color correction', in the DVD anyway whoops i have been outed, the circuitry detail has actually lost much of the clarity that it had in the 20th Anniversary release. In many frames that were once pretty darn clear and detailed in the meticulous and beautiful circuitry department, the circuits are now meshed together into a blurry technicolor mass of ohgodwhy.abortion pills online abortion questions cytotec abortion

BrokenLevel Wrote: Sark's torture scene going through the grimdark filter looks really great [because really, who can say no to high-octane nightmare fuel?] - even if it kinda serves to highlight one of David Warner's flat acting spats. But the MCP and Sark going out in a sea of super-bright 'tee-hee let's connect it more to legacy, aesthetically!' sparkle white lens-flair uguu? Notsomuch, in my humble opinion. And furthering my bawwwing over the 'color correction', in the DVD anyway whoops i have been outed, the circuitry detail has actually lost much of the clarity that it had in the 20th Anniversary release. In many frames that were once pretty darn clear and detailed in the meticulous and beautiful circuitry department, the circuits are now meshed together into a blurry technicolor mass of ohgodwhy.

Yeah, I see what you mean about the Sark/MCP torture shots and did notice a bit of a darker image in those shots, not exactly sure why but I would have to agree they appear pretty darn dark. As for the circuitry detail and other general detail it does appear that this "DVD" edition is somewhat softer than it's 20th anniversary predecessor, and my only guess as to why that may be is probably because the DVD version was less of a priority as far as pushing the format's boundaries compared with their goals for the Blu-Ray version.

And in regards to the shots on the mesa of Tron fighting Sark in all honesty i'd say that I prefer the newer version because it IS considerably more consistent throughout in color and tones. I did like that sepia-like tonality of the MCP derezzing but again it appears more consistent with the rest of the films color palette now.

Oh, and thanks for all your work on those great comparison shots! If I'm able to capture some HD shots of these scenes I'll be sure to post them later.

This was a high-quality, deep restoration, not a remaster. A lot of dust & scratches were removed and the color was re-graded.

The reason the color difference is so dramatic are twofold:

1) Lisberger never had the time to properly adjust the color because of the impending release date. That means a lot of the colors have actually been incorrect the entire time.

2) Celluloid film, even properly stored, degrades over time, eventually dissolving into vinegar. One of the first stages of this degradation is a yellow tint. As you can see in the above screenshots, the closeups of the costumes show a yellow tint because the film was starting to dissolve.

There was no money for a full restoration for the 20th Anniversary release, so that DVD was basically a high-quality transfer from a flawed master. This is the movie as Lisberger originally intended. The difference between this and the Star Wars Specials Editions is that, with a few exceptions, Lucas didn't add anything that he had originally intended to shoot, he was simply assembling what amounted to a tech demo. Lisberger was hamstrung by the impending release date and lack of budget to do proper color timing, which is usually a standard postproduction procedure for live-action films, while animated films rarely require it.

I have heard a few people complain about the amount of grain in the film, but keep in mind this movie was shot ON FILM. The picture has -- and should have -- visible, natural noise due to the celluloid grain, because Blu-Ray is intended to replicate the theatrical experience. The fact that this grain is present and that there is so little digital artifacting should be cause for celebration, especially when the tendency is for studios to polish all of the grain from films. For an excellent example, take a look at Fox's PREDATOR Blu-Ray, as examined by The Digital Bits:

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binaryzero Wrote:or to further the grain arguement, look at how the original was made. exposure on top of exposure, etc. the grain is high in the original film with the amount of optical printing had to be done. think of how noisy a picture would be if you printed it, scanned it, printed it, scanned it, etc.

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Over all? I found the Tron: Classic blu ray to be done pretty well. I did notice some upgrades (Is it just me, or were the guards staffs more "sparkly" and Clu seemed more in color tone with his succesor?) but basically? I liked it! Well worth getting IMHOwhere to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online

In addition, it should be noted that, as I stated, the original negative for the film will not last forever, even under the best of circumstances. This new digital transfer is a way to guarantee that the film can be shown in master quality and will survive, as it was supposed to appear, forever.

typicaltronname Wrote: FusionAddict Wrote:. 2) Celluloid film, even properly stored, degrades over time, eventually dissolving into vinegar. What type of vinegar? White? Apple cider Vinegar? Balsamic? Malt? Coconut?

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