Flynn wanted to wait for the resistance to take out Clu but they seemed unempowered to do so. Yet when Flynn entered the EOL club, he seemed to give them the ability to fight and win against the Black Guard. So why didn't he help them with the efforts to take back the Grid?where to buy abortion pill http://blog.bitimpulse.com/template/default.aspx?abortion-types buy abortion pill online

Makes me wonder why Castor changed his mind too. As much as Clu hated Users, he seemed to as well. Most people hate someone who has done something to them, or at least thinks they have.

And how did Clu manage to sway the general populace against Users?

Sam was right. Flynn forgot how to fight. Remember this quote, from another favorite movie.

"The dreams of youth, often times, become the regrets of maturity."

Flynn says, "We do it your way."

My nutshell.

Heroics and studity go hand in hand. Sometimes you just gotta take a chance no matter what the consequences. As Kevin Flynn says in the movie "Some things are worth the risk"

Didn't Flynn say that he designed the laser controls to be inaccessible from inside the Grid, specifically to prevent the possibility of Programs escaping?

rimwall Wrote:well it is a theory but if we run with the theory we could say: yep and ordinary programs have to convice the laser programs to do their laser duties so ordinary programs can get out. then they would need flynn's master disk then they would need to go to the presumably "hard to get" portal location. it's something like a triple lock. well a double lock if the portal is already open. flynn's actions in the betrayal comics also shows him taking risks and flying untested flyers. he constantly risks getting knocked unconscious during the early days of the grid. getting knocked out can take hours. i'd like to think flynn had a plan B during his early reckless days.

Being that this is Kevin we're talking about, inventor of the "most secure OS ever", he would probably realize the danger in allowing Programs to handle the portal. After all the Great Wall of China, the biggest and most impressive barrier ever built by human hands was breached 3 times... and all 3 times were accomplished by bribing the guards.

He could design the laser controls to be hard-wired. Not everything, but the actual switch that allows the portal to open could be entirely hardware-driven, not software, making the meddling of rebellious Programs impossible.

Hmmmm....interesting. I'm not sure. I think this is more of the youth vs. experience debate. Sam wants to take things into his own hands and is naive about situations (for example, with Castor/Zuse, Sam doesn't have the experience to know that this guy is shady to the 10th degree, especially with the 'look at all the angles' summary quote Sam says when he finds out Castor is unreliable). Kevin is more experienced, but does he take too much time to do things? His move is just not to move at all in order to block Clu. So, in essence, they need each other. Kevin even relents when he tells Sam, "Have you ever jumped a train....we'll do it your way." Also, you think Kevin would be more protective of his identity disc instead of exposing it so blatantly so it could be taken in the "End of Line" club? Kevin maybe had an overinflated sense of confidence at that moment---like father like son?

I don't think it's in terms of right or wrong, just the debate of youth vs. experience and how Sam and Kevin need each other to get to a goal--a yin/yang sort of thing. Not sure if this makes any sense.

rimwall Wrote:well it is a theory but if we run with the theory we could say: yep and ordinary programs have to convice the laser programs to do their laser duties so ordinary programs can get out. then they would need flynn's master disk then they would need to go to the presumably "hard to get" portal location. it's something like a triple lock. well a double lock if the portal is already open. flynn's actions in the betrayal comics also shows him taking risks and flying untested flyers. he constantly risks getting knocked unconscious during the early days of the grid. getting knocked out can take hours. i'd like to think flynn had a plan B during his early reckless days.

ooops forgot one
programs also have to figure out how to make the flynn's disk
work for an ordinary program
the master disk works specifically for flynn's user body.

that would make it four locks

and stealing flynn's disk during the early days of the grid
would not be easy because clu, clu's army, and tron
will be hunting down the thief and flynn would still
have the option to monitor when the laser programs
are activated

Imbroglio Wrote:Sam caused a lot of innocent programs to be derezzed and additionally the death of Flynn. If he just waited, all 3 of them could have got out quietly and without a confrontation with Clu.

Speaking of innocent programs, I couldn't help but giggle at the one program who was watching Sam as he scaled the Disk Wars cage, and was then de-rezzed. Pay attention, program!

TRON.dll Wrote:Because watching Sam, Kevin, and Quorra wait for an hour and a half would have been the most entertaining movie ever. [/sarcasm] In all seriousness, I think it was all part of Sam's character. His "we've gotta do this right now" attitude was really enforced by his decision, and he saw the results of that later on.

I took that to be the point of the film. In the beginning, he's rash if with a purpose, has no desire to run ENCOM, and can't even maintain a relationship. From meeting Dad and getting to know something about Flynn, Sam learned some responsibility, wants to be at the reins of ENCOM, and has a naive ISO to take care of. Can't wait to see the new Sam in the next film.