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RE: TRON 3: What would the story be?

on Sunday, February, 13, 2011 11:26 PM
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AriesT Wrote:For me, they should start where they left us in Tron Legacy.
In TRON 3, I'd love to see how they try to recreate Flynn and rescue TRON.

If Dillinger Jr. plays a major role or the villian, they HAVE to make his character different to his fathers and they have to make him a bit more complex than the characters and villians were in T:L.
I don't understand why Alan Bradley has no interest in his own program Tron. If he wrote him then why would he let him go with Clu. Why is he at Flynns arcade looking at his pager when Sam returns?
Sam sent him a page at the arcade. He was looking for information on Kevin Flynn. Alan doesn't know about the grid, he thinks that Tron is just a program he wrote. I think that Kevin either moved the Tron file to the arcade or just made a duplicate of the program.


 
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on Sunday, February, 13, 2011 11:27 PM
Aperture Wrote:

Personally and this is just me I would like to see a 3 to 4 hour epic movie with a intermission to wrap up Tron. Then have it go 4 installments counting the original as one. This way the story line can be significantly more deeper and thicker and the ending very dramatic.

Whoa, now that is a wish! I have been to movie marathons, Planet of the Apes, Lord of the Rings, missed the Star Trek marathon. But what theatre would want to sell tickets for a 4 hour blockbuster, and lose the revenue of repeated showing? Still, enough for at least 2 more films. Can't be too far apart since actors age. They should have filmed simultaneously as some films have done.abortion pills online abortion questions cytotec abortion


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RE: TRON 3: What would the story be?

on Sunday, February, 13, 2011 11:35 PM
Disc Warrior Wrote:I actually liked Clu as a villain, I thought that he was very complex.
I think that the writers would have a few surprises up their sleeves for TRON 3...

As for CLU - dito. He was a good villian.

As for the surprises - IF they still take the LOST authors, the surprises will be bad, if they use good film authors, they might be good.

Remember when LOST lost its direction after Season 3? God damnit, I still could punch them in their face So, for me, no LOST writers anymore. Hope they learned their 49% rotten lesson.


 
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RE: TRON 3: What would the story be?

on Sunday, February, 13, 2011 11:41 PM
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Disc Warrior Wrote:I actually liked Clu as a villain, I thought that he was very complex.
I think that the writers would have a few surprises up their sleeves for TRON 3...

As for CLU - dito. He was a good villian.
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As one who likes to study human behavior, I think Clu was more than just a Flynn construct. He had a part of Flynn in him. Watch scenes were he shows how much he is not only disappointed in Flynn, but feels the pain of abandonment from his "father". He's jealous of Sam, that's clear near the end. Maybe he felt Flynn treated him poorly, rather than just not being there to build the perfect system. The word "together" seemed to strike a nerve when he was at Flynn's safehouse. He's more than a mere 3 dimensional villain. But then I love Sylar from Heroes, and he similarly had issues that made him more than a one note bad guy.

Kinda hate seeing Clu 2 gone.



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RE: TRON 3: What would the story be?

on Sunday, February, 13, 2011 11:43 PM
IluthraDanar Wrote:
Aperture Wrote:

Personally and this is just me I would like to see a 3 to 4 hour epic movie with a intermission to wrap up Tron. Then have it go 4 installments counting the original as one. This way the story line can be significantly more deeper and thicker and the ending very dramatic.

Whoa, now that is a wish! I have been to movie marathons, Planet of the Apes, Lord of the Rings, missed the Star Trek marathon. But what theatre would want to sell tickets for a 4 hour blockbuster, and lose the revenue of repeated showing? Still, enough for at least 2 more films. Can't be too far apart since actors age. They should have filmed simultaneously as some films have done.
Adjusted to inflation, "Gone With the Wind" is the number one film of all time (It had an intermission). And I believe "Avatar" would actually be number 12 ...

About Lost authors:
Lost was meant to end after 3 seasons, but since they started answering all of the questions people had ratings went up. So, there were 6 seasons. My siblings love Lost, I don't really like it. I always joke with them that the people are still "lost" after 6 years...

I think that they did a good job on Legacy. And I think that the things that they didn't answer (ISO's, what happened to the grid and Tron etc.) will be answered in TRON 3.



 
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on Monday, February, 14, 2011 7:08 AM
c1 Wrote:
AriesT Wrote:For me, they should start where they left us in Tron Legacy.
In TRON 3, I'd love to see how they try to recreate Flynn and rescue TRON.

If Dillinger Jr. plays a major role or the villian, they HAVE to make his character different to his fathers and they have to make him a bit more complex than the characters and villians were in T:L.
I don't understand why Alan Bradley has no interest in his own program Tron. If he wrote him then why would he let him go with Clu. Why is he at Flynns arcade looking at his pager when Sam returns?
I started a thread about this a while back... Alan apparently has no idea what Flynn is up to (why, I don't know. As I pointed out there, why would you not ask somebody's permission to take their program and move it to your own system? And I think we've said he WAS moved, and not a new copy made, right?)

But I too have wondered why Alan doesn't seem to wonder about his program. I mean, it seems to me that Tron was a pretty big deal--big security program, sounds like he took a while to create, etc. Is that really something you'd just be like, "yeah, I wrote it for this one system to run on it for a couple years and then it just disappeared without a trace and I didn't give a crap"? Now mind you, I speak as a non-programmer-- a non-programmer because I know I just don't have the patience for programming without tearing my hair out. If I actually took the time to create a *%#$@! program, I'd sure as hell keep the damn thing forever. I might have Tron version 1548972389.01.02579 by the time I was 90, but there's no way I'd do all that work and then just be like, "meh, let it go." To me, that'd be the equivalent of writing a whole freaking symphony and listening to it a couple times, then throwing out the manuscript because you just don't give a crap anymore.

And he never wonders at all about how Flynn got his proof of Dillinger's theft? Or how the hell he got a page from a disconnected number (although really I'm sure the phone company reassigned the phone number about ten times in that space of time so who knows why he didn't just chalk it up to a wrong number, unless it was just a ploy to get Sam to visit the arcade, get a sense of nostalgia, and take over Encom, and he really didn't think there was anything to it)? Or just what Flynn was always going on about (and why did Flynn go over to his house and rant on and on if he was keeping the whole thing secret from Alan in the first place)? Or, geez, he doesn't wonder who the hell Quorra is?? I mean, with that little amount of curiosity, it's a good thing he's not a journalist or a cop or something.where to buy abortion pill http://blog.bitimpulse.com/template/default.aspx?abortion-types buy abortion pill online

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on Monday, February, 14, 2011 8:42 AM
I know that Jeff Bridges and Olivia Wilde said that they'd like to return to reprise their characters in an article from December 2010.

Personally, I'd like to see Tron 3 take place in another new computer system. I don't think any two Tron movies should take place in the same system (flashbacks are an exception), in order to keep up some kind of variety. I'd be moderately disappointed if Tron 3 took place in The Grid, instead of another computer system like the Encom mainframe.

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RE: TRON 3: What would the story be?

on Monday, February, 14, 2011 10:28 AM
TRON.dll Wrote:I know that Jeff Bridges and Olivia Wilde said that they'd like to return to reprise their characters in an article from December 2010.

Personally, I'd like to see Tron 3 take place in another new computer system. I don't think any two Tron movies should take place in the same system (flashbacks are an exception), in order to keep up some kind of variety. I'd be moderately disappointed if Tron 3 took place in The Grid, instead of another computer system like the Encom mainframe.

I think Tron 3 should focus on Encom and the father-son relationship between the two Dillengers. Tron 4 could focus on hacking, viruses, the internet, etc. like Tron 2.0.

It may depend on what Sam does. Encom's mainframe could happen since this is Hollywood. Technically, Sam should really put him on a non-production mainframe system (LPAR or VM) but I realize Hollywood has no concern for such technical details. Going on Encom's mainframe would allow for the possibility of getting Kevin plus Lora back. Naturally the Encom mainframe would have changed a bit with system and OS upgrades so it wouldn't necessarily be exactly as it used to be.

I'm also hoping to see the Dillingers return in Tron 3. Tron 4 as a hacker movie could possibly derail the series. Hacker movies are hit-or-miss. Pull it off well and you might have a shot. Show a transforming mainframe that lights up like the 4th of July when something bad happens to it and I'm not going to be pleased. Maybe have the new MCP running around, discovering that the Dillingers actually let it loose during Tron 3 (though we knew nothing about it at the time of Tron 3). An MCP-type program trying to run the internet would be entertaining.


 
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on Monday, February, 14, 2011 11:12 AM
What I'd like to see in Tron3:

* More referances to gadgets & gizmos-has I mentioned elsewhere in this forum, I was slightly disapointed that in Legecy there wasn't more mentions of things like Cell Phones, I-pods, MP3 Players, the Internet, etc, even if they don't play any direct part in the story itself.
* Get Alan involved! He's a good character, so they could probably give him a bit more to do, or even make him one of the main characters (what if it was ALAN who discovers a way into that world this time round? ;-D).
How'd you think he'd react to seeing that world and it's inhabitants?
If Tron does come back (possibly), how do you think he'd feel seeing someone who looks just like himself?
* With regards to Tron coming back-I think it can be done. Remember, they're just PROGRAMS, and like any computor program, IT CAN BE REBUILT & REPAIRED!
After all, there's been a few times where a certain file/document I have (I've got windows XP) been corrupted/damaged, so I then deleted it & created a new one from scratch.

And with regard to Old Man Dillinger-David Warner is about 78 YEARS OLD! Even if he did come back, I don't think he'd be up to much action.


 
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on Monday, February, 14, 2011 2:27 PM
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on Monday, February, 14, 2011 4:42 PM
Ditch the Flynn's. Kevn's gone and Sam is god awful bland. I want to see a redeemed Tron going up against Cillian Murphy.

Dillinjr has recreated the MCP and bent every program to his will (the writers can think of a reason). However, while he did all that, Tron was in the digital sea, which left him immune to the effects. Now, as a one man army, Tron goes up against the entire grid to free it from itself. Normally I'd try including some sort of inner struggle between him and his Rinzler personality, but Rinzler had no personality


 
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on Monday, February, 14, 2011 5:02 PM
I keep thinking those Encom mainframes that Sam breaks into seemed pretty ominous. I do think there has to be remnant of Flynn creations in those computers. I also wonder what would happen if Sam plugs that memory stick into that computer system. It made me think it could result in the collision of two different grids. It would also be interesting to see if Murphy's character has already been inside the computers at Encom. It is interesting how he took it in stride that Encom OS 12 was all over the place, being that he created it. I wondered if that served his purpose unexpectedly.
One thing I'd like to see although it is unnecessary is some scene involving grid bugs, just add a bit more meat to Yori's one off remark in the first film.


 
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on Monday, February, 14, 2011 9:18 PM
I totally want Tron back--though I'd rather we didn't have the circumstances at the end of T:L and I wish they'd found some other way that didn't look like he died and was going to have some sort of cliched miraculous resurrection. BUT. If we get Tron back, I want to see his face, none of that helmet BS, and I can't see them doing that (and not sure I want to see Bruce/Tron done in bad CGI like Bridges/Clu was anyway).

IOW, they're never going to be able to do it in a way to make me happy...

(I still am entirely clueless about why on earth Sam would want to bring the Grid to Encom servers. I mean, if you want to keep it secret, you probably should not have it anywhere near a company full of computer geeks. And it makes no sense to take a personal project like that to work; that'd be worse in terms of privacy than posting to Facebook from your work computer.)where to buy abortion pill http://blog.bitimpulse.com/template/default.aspx?abortion-types buy abortion pill online

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on Monday, February, 14, 2011 9:19 PM
I agree about Alan B. He had a small but major part in Tron, less so in Legacy. But his program was the crux of both. I think Flynn would have mentioned something, even off hand. Did he get back to the real world, proof in hand and say nothing about where he'd been the last 3 minutes (real world time)? Man, what a secret to hold inside you for two decades.

Kevin may have asked Alan if he could add Tron, an updated version (he was so hot in Legacy, for an older program), to his new Grid (Alan not knowing what that menat exactly), and "sure, buddy, you can use him" Alan may have said. Why not?


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on Monday, February, 14, 2011 9:32 PM
Oh surely Sam and Quorra would be in it. I can't see a sequel without them.


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on Monday, February, 14, 2011 9:59 PM
LWSrocks Wrote:It'd be stupid to have the third movie focus only on Tron and have the Flynns be completely ditched, they opened too many story threads with Sam, Kevin, and Quorra that couldn't just be taken out.

I agree with that and hope the LOST writers don't touch Tron 3 and be demoted to the CGI animated series while a new team writes for third film. I just don't want the LOST writers mucking it up again with their, pardon my pun, fanboy-ism. There's a place for being a fanboy and there's a place for being a professional.

And I do not blame Kozinski since this was his first time and believe that the problem with Legacy was the actual 'beat', that is, the pacing of the story. So, I blame this on the writers for this reason. If they focus on cleaning up on the story and beefing things up while tightening the editing process, it should improve on Tron: Legacy.

As for the ENCOM server, they have to go that route story-wise. This is where it all started from the first movie and I think the real evolution is what we will see in Tron 3. Flynn is the heart and soul of the story. Period. And for Dillinger, Jr. They cannot make him a 2-D cardboard cut out villain and make him just like his father. That would be lazy writing. They have to make him more complex.

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on Monday, February, 14, 2011 10:45 PM
Is Dillinger Jr supposed to be as brilliant as Flynn?


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RE: TRON 3: What would the story be?

on Monday, February, 14, 2011 11:20 PM
Now, I only saw the movie once so I am definitely forgetting stuff, but anyone ever entertain the possibility that Alan knew where Kevin was the entire time? Alan was convinced that Kevin hadn't actually left. Maybe he had just been lying, to not only the people around him, but to himself as well.

And I always thought that The Grid wasn't just a small sector, but was several different computer systems across a larger WAN (Wide Area Network) rather than simply a LAN (Local Area Network). Because even though Flynn was originally sent to The Grid by the MCP inside Encom, Sam gets access inside Flynn's Arcade.


 
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on Tuesday, February, 15, 2011 12:03 AM
overRIDE Wrote:Now, I only saw the movie once so I am definitely forgetting stuff, but anyone ever entertain the possibility that Alan knew where Kevin was the entire time? Alan was convinced that Kevin hadn't actually left. Maybe he had just been lying, to not only the people around him, but to himself as well.

And I always thought that The Grid wasn't just a small sector, but was several different computer systems across a larger WAN (Wide Area Network) rather than simply a LAN (Local Area Network). Because even though Flynn was originally sent to The Grid by the MCP inside Encom, Sam gets access inside Flynn's Arcade.
Two different Grids. Flynn created his own in the arcade. The Encom Grid, as it existed then, is long gone, I think we can safely assume. Obviously there is another version now that no one has been to--and perhaps this is where Tr3n could take place within Encom, and invent some reason Sam has to go in and fix something (perhaps with Jr's help; I still want him as a good guy), but I still don't see why Sam would create his own version of the Grid, the same way his father did, and put it on the Encom system.


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on Tuesday, February, 15, 2011 12:16 AM
Kat Wrote:
overRIDE Wrote:Now, I only saw the movie once so I am definitely forgetting stuff, but anyone ever entertain the possibility that Alan knew where Kevin was the entire time? Alan was convinced that Kevin hadn't actually left. Maybe he had just been lying, to not only the people around him, but to himself as well.

And I always thought that The Grid wasn't just a small sector, but was several different computer systems across a larger WAN (Wide Area Network) rather than simply a LAN (Local Area Network). Because even though Flynn was originally sent to The Grid by the MCP inside Encom, Sam gets access inside Flynn's Arcade.
Two different Grids. Flynn created his own in the arcade. The Encom Grid, as it existed then, is long gone, I think we can safely assume. Obviously there is another version now that no one has been to--and perhaps this is where Tr3n could take place within Encom, and invent some reason Sam has to go in and fix something (perhaps with Jr's help; I still want him as a good guy), but I still don't see why Sam would create his own version of the Grid, the same way his father did, and put it on the Encom system.
The Encom Grid would have to be rebuilt by now seeing as Encom has a full running computer system (which was in fact being run by Dillinger Jr and a few execs). It could even look completely different. And even if it doesn't look different, I can imagine the amount of security programs on the Encom Grid would be 10-times compared to Flynn's Grid. Maybe even a newer MCP that Sam has to destroy in order to become in full control of the company (although reusing old villains would be kind of lame). Personally, I still see Dillinger Jr. as a villain (you'd be pissed too if your father was fired from a company you believe he helped build; I doubt Jr believes that his father stole the games from Kevin). Maybe Dillinger Jr starts off as a villain, but ends up saving Sam in the end (that would be cool).order abortion pill morning after pill price where to buy abortion pill


 
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