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ShadowSpark
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RE: Ladies' night!

on Wednesday, May, 04, 2011 9:35 PM
Aerial_Zero Wrote:However, it does make much more sense if he WAS asleep. Depending on what cycle he was in or how hard he sleeps there could have been an explosion and he wouldn't have noticed

That raises another interesting question. Do User bodies still function like that in the grid? I mean, we've seen Sam bleed, but would the brain's sleep cycle stay the same?


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Kat
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on Wednesday, May, 04, 2011 10:09 PM
Hrm, I wonder.

Because I assumed he WASN'T asleep, I guess I wondered if it was just that he couldn't sleep that particular night, or that he COULDN'T sleep--like, nobody in the Grid sleeps and for the sake of familiarity he might just lie down and rest or meditate, and if it was some sort of proof that no one sleeps in the Grid.

But yes, he could definitely SLEEP through it....(says the chick who once slept through a smoke detector going off like six feet above her head. No fire, just a malfunction, so maybe my subconscious knew that and that's why I didn't wake up. 'Cause normally I'm sure I would--I'm terrified of fire and there's no way I wouldn't rocket out of bed if it were real.)where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill onlineabortion pills online abortion questions cytotec abortion

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Aerial_Zero
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on Wednesday, May, 04, 2011 10:40 PM
That is a good question

They may not need to sleep while in the Grid despite being able to bleed, etc. I can kind of equate this phenomenon to how easily sometimes your sleep cycle can get out of whack due to lack of light or too much light (like in Alaska, or keeping the bedroom too dark/too bright). In the Grid it is always the "same time of day" so it would be hard to keep track of "daytime/nighttime" after so many cycles probably.

Also since they appear to get energy from a liquid food-like source, sleep might not be necessary to replenish energy or repair the "body" like in our world.

Just my 2 cents

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IluthraDanar
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RE: Ladies' night!

on Wednesday, May, 04, 2011 10:43 PM
Aerial_Zero Wrote:That is a good question

They may not need to sleep while in the Grid despite being able to bleed, etc. I can kind of equate this phenomenon to how easily sometimes your sleep cycle can get out of whack due to lack of light or too much light (like in Alaska, or keeping the bedroom too dark/too bright). In the Grid it is always the "same time of day" so it would be hard to keep track of "daytime/nighttime" after so many cycles probably.

Also since they appear to get energy from a liquid food-like source, sleep might not be necessary to replenish energy or repair the "body" like in our world.

Just my 2 cents

And we can assume programs don't experience cellular degradation. No need to rest or sleep, except for necessary reboots.


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ShadowSpark
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RE: Ladies' night!

on Wednesday, May, 04, 2011 11:03 PM
IluthraDanar Wrote:
Aerial_Zero Wrote:That is a good question

They may not need to sleep while in the Grid despite being able to bleed, etc. I can kind of equate this phenomenon to how easily sometimes your sleep cycle can get out of whack due to lack of light or too much light (like in Alaska, or keeping the bedroom too dark/too bright). In the Grid it is always the "same time of day" so it would be hard to keep track of "daytime/nighttime" after so many cycles probably.

Also since they appear to get energy from a liquid food-like source, sleep might not be necessary to replenish energy or repair the "body" like in our world.

Just my 2 cents

And we can assume programs don't experience cellular degradation. No need to rest or sleep, except for necessary reboots.

But we aren't talking about programs, ID. We're talking about digitized Users.


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IluthraDanar
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RE: Ladies' night!

on Wednesday, May, 04, 2011 11:21 PM
ShadowSpark Wrote:
IluthraDanar Wrote:
Aerial_Zero Wrote:That is a good question

They may not need to sleep while in the Grid despite being able to bleed, etc. I can kind of equate this phenomenon to how easily sometimes your sleep cycle can get out of whack due to lack of light or too much light (like in Alaska, or keeping the bedroom too dark/too bright). In the Grid it is always the "same time of day" so it would be hard to keep track of "daytime/nighttime" after so many cycles probably.

Also since they appear to get energy from a liquid food-like source, sleep might not be necessary to replenish energy or repair the "body" like in our world.

Just my 2 cents

And we can assume programs don't experience cellular degradation. No need to rest or sleep, except for necessary reboots.

But we aren't talking about programs, ID. We're talking about digitized Users.

Oops, my bad. I think I need to get to bed. Long boring day at work. Guess I can't calculate data right now. Thanks for the heads up.


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ShadowSpark
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RE: Ladies' night!

on Thursday, May, 05, 2011 12:28 AM
IluthraDanar Wrote:Oops, my bad. I think I need to get to bed. Long boring day at work. Guess I can't calculate data right now. Thanks for the heads up.

Go reboot your system. We'll still be here when you get back.


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Kat
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RE: Ladies' night!

on Thursday, May, 05, 2011 6:46 AM
IluthraDanar Wrote:
Aerial_Zero Wrote:That is a good question

They may not need to sleep while in the Grid despite being able to bleed, etc. I can kind of equate this phenomenon to how easily sometimes your sleep cycle can get out of whack due to lack of light or too much light (like in Alaska, or keeping the bedroom too dark/too bright). In the Grid it is always the "same time of day" so it would be hard to keep track of "daytime/nighttime" after so many cycles probably.

Also since they appear to get energy from a liquid food-like source, sleep might not be necessary to replenish energy or repair the "body" like in our world.

Just my 2 cents

And we can assume programs don't experience cellular degradation. No need to rest or sleep, except for necessary reboots.
Yes, I think it is safe to assume programs don't sleep. After all, if you consider they might, the logic breaks down--when is it "night" on the Grid? If you consider that an hour here is two "days" on the Grid...well, damn, then I'm running my poor programs at work for weeks straight (or it seems to them). And then they don't have to do anything for several weeks when I go home at night.. The light doesn't change, so there's no way to delineate day or night there either. And, too, it doesn't seem fair--my firewall or other system programs spend a lot more time working than Word or Outlook do (heh, program class wars?).

I've always wondered (because of course when writing fic you have to think about these things)--how DO they refer to time? Because if there's no difference between night and day, you probably measure in cycles/millicycles/whatever like we hear Flynn do in the movie, and you wouldn't refer to "tomorrow" or "last week," right, because that assumes you measure in days and therefore weeks? But surely they refer to the passage of time somehow.

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ShadowSpark
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RE: Ladies' night!

on Thursday, May, 05, 2011 4:50 PM
Kat Wrote:I've always wondered (because of course when writing fic you have to think about these things)--how DO they refer to time? Because if there's no difference between night and day, you probably measure in cycles/millicycles/whatever like we hear Flynn do in the movie, and you wouldn't refer to "tomorrow" or "last week," right, because that assumes you measure in days and therefore weeks? But surely they refer to the passage of time somehow.

Well, in the original, Ram says that he's been stuck in the cell block for 200 microcycles.


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Program_Rayna
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RE: Ladies' night!

on Sunday, May, 08, 2011 12:44 PM
What's weirder is that in the grid, distance might be measured in time. In the first movie, when Tron, Flynn, and Yori are on the Solar Sailer and need to get off the beam, Yori states there isn't a junction for 7 or 8 nanoseconds. O_o ?


 
IluthraDanar
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on Sunday, May, 08, 2011 2:48 PM
Program_Rayna Wrote:What's weirder is that in the grid, distance might be measured in time. In the first movie, when Tron, Flynn, and Yori are on the Solar Sailer and need to get off the beam, Yori states there isn't a junction for 7 or 8 nanoseconds. O_o ?

Like, Are we there yet? Yeah, in about 10 minutes, 3 miles, 4 exits. Guess it can be measured in various ways?


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ShadowSpark
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on Sunday, May, 08, 2011 6:16 PM
Program_Rayna Wrote:What's weirder is that in the grid, distance might be measured in time. In the first movie, when Tron, Flynn, and Yori are on the Solar Sailer and need to get off the beam, Yori states there isn't a junction for 7 or 8 nanoseconds. O_o ?

Since seconds and nanoseconds are distance and cycles and microcycles are time..... What is speed?


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Aerial_Zero
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RE: Ladies' night!

on Sunday, May, 08, 2011 6:41 PM
ShadowSpark Wrote:Since seconds and nanoseconds are distance and cycles and microcycles are time..... What is speed?

That is a good question

In our world, speed is usually referred to in time units, such as 0-60mph in 5 seconds

So, in referring to how fast something is, such as a lightcycle, one Program might likely say to another "well my cycle can go 60 nanoseconds in 5 microcycles" LoL

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Kat
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RE: Ladies' night!

on Sunday, May, 08, 2011 6:47 PM
IluthraDanar Wrote:
Program_Rayna Wrote:What's weirder is that in the grid, distance might be measured in time. In the first movie, when Tron, Flynn, and Yori are on the Solar Sailer and need to get off the beam, Yori states there isn't a junction for 7 or 8 nanoseconds. O_o ?

Like, Are we there yet? Yeah, in about 10 minutes, 3 miles, 4 exits. Guess it can be measured in various ways?
That's what I was thinking...if they need to time jumping off, then time would make more sense to measure in than distance?


ShadowSpark Wrote:
Program_Rayna Wrote:What's weirder is that in the grid, distance might be measured in time. In the first movie, when Tron, Flynn, and Yori are on the Solar Sailer and need to get off the beam, Yori states there isn't a junction for 7 or 8 nanoseconds. O_o ?

Since seconds and nanoseconds are distance and cycles and microcycles are time..... What is speed?
Please let's not get into physics...it's never been my strong point!


Okay, guys. So, based on the thread about "can users and programs fall in love" and to bring that discussion here a bit-- how many of us are writing fics with users and programs hooking up?? I smell the need for a chat coming up.

(And FWIW...I'd post parts of my fics if it was just you guys reading, but not everybody else...if I ever figure out a way to manage that, I'll let you know. A blog of some sort maybe? [I wish I could post semi-privately at fanfiction.net and just be able to invite you guys without making all my fic bits totally public. Anybody else got a Livejournal account? We could make a community or something for fic...] And yes, Azure, to reply to you from that thread... what happens to my user character in the end is definitely not pretty. Everybody in the story has ended up in a pretty sorry state at that point. I'd never post that in the other thread though because inevitably someone would get pissed off at what I did to all the canon characters. )where to buy abortion pill http://blog.bitimpulse.com/template/default.aspx?abortion-types buy abortion pill online

What do you want? I'm busy.


Program, please!


Chaos.... good news.
 
Aerial_Zero
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RE: Ladies' night!

on Sunday, May, 08, 2011 6:56 PM
Kat Wrote:(And FWIW...I'd post parts of my fics if it was just you guys reading, but not everybody else...if I ever figure out a way to manage that, I'll let you know. A blog of some sort maybe? [I wish I could post semi-privately at fanfiction.net and just be able to invite you guys without making all my fic bits totally public. Anybody else got a Livejournal account? We could make a community or something for fic...] And yes, Azure, to reply to you from that thread... what happens to my user character in the end is definitely not pretty. Everybody in the story has ended up in a pretty sorry state at that point. I'd never post that in the other thread though because inevitably someone would get pissed off at what I did to all the canon characters. )

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Kat
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on Sunday, May, 08, 2011 7:19 PM
Well, I'm not sure what our options are. Like I said, if everybody has Livejournal or something, then we could just create a community there with us as members. I'm on Blogger too...do they have any sort of community capability? They appear to have a team blog which could work, though I don't know if they allow members-only posts, which may be important to some of us.

Where else is everyone a member that might work? Seems it'd be easier to use an existing platform than try to build something new...an actual new board seems like a lot of work. But if we want, I can make one, if that'd be easier than trying to coordinate on other social media sites... I've used ProBoards to make communities before. I didn't use it that extensively, but their functionality looked okay to me.

I suppose we could do a Yahoo Group too, but I always feel like Yahoo groups are so clunky because it's hard to view stuff in a linear way...

What do you want? I'm busy.


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Chaos.... good news.
 
IluthraDanar
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on Sunday, May, 08, 2011 7:41 PM
oooh chat night for fanfic writers would be cool, if I could make the time allotted. Share, support and a few laughs would be fun.


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ShadowSpark
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RE: Ladies' night!

on Sunday, May, 08, 2011 7:49 PM
IluthraDanar Wrote:oooh chat night for fanfic writers would be cool, if I could make the time allotted. Share, support and a few laughs would be fun.

Yes, a chat night for writers would be very nice. And my fic has User/Program romance in it as well.


{A very big thanks to FlynnOne for the pic! And to Wulfeous for sharpening the details!*huggles both*}
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Aerial_Zero
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RE: Ladies' night!

on Sunday, May, 08, 2011 7:53 PM
I agree, yahoo stuff is so clunky.

I also agree that it would be important that only allowed users be able to read or post on this new community fic site. That way no one will be attacked for their particular views or pairings This is the first "social" site I have done in a long time due to past bad experiences (thankfully you guys have changed my opinion ) so, I am not up to date as to what sites are good and have which functionalities. A lot of folks used to use Myspace but to me ProBoards sounds like a better spot

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on Sunday, May, 08, 2011 10:09 PM
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