Personally, what I find very intriguing about the Isos is that, as far as I can tell from what Flynn was describing, sounded like the digital equivalent of life spawning from nothing, or what some evolutionists refer to as 'primordial ooze.' What makes this so fascinating in Tron, is that the Grid exists in a theistic world. The Programs have a pantheon of Users who created that world and rule over them (more or less, aside from when there's a revolution). And then come the Isos. So, in reality, the equivalent to what happened on the Grid, is that there are two different kinds of humans, some who were created by God, and some who evolved. The possibility that such a thing could happen, even in a simulation, has very interesting implications for our universe.

On a side note, it's also slightly possible that Clu realized this, and that it was part of his reasoning for deciding their fate. A quasi-Planet of the Apes type of plot. Disney wouldn't dare push it anymore than they did though, because Disney more or less is not "allowed" to do anything that controversial.where to buy abortion pill abortion types buy abortion pill online

Sub-Odeon Wrote:What's never clear is how, after 27 years, Clu is able to send a digital message beyond the server in Kevin's basement workshop. This seems to imply some kind of long-dormant modem connection, perhaps?

In the Betrayal comic, Flynn makes it possible for his wife to send a signal from home (via phone) which he can notice while being inside the Grid.
I'm confident that this is the basis for the answer to this.

Kat Wrote:And since Flynn gave the pager to Alan, we could perhaps assume that he did indeed create it that way and intend it as a sort of "safety line" so he could reach Alan in case something happened in the Grid? Perhaps there's something on the "Grid" end that sends the signal, and Clu had that--not implausible if either Flynn had it before Clu turned bad and left it with Clu somehow (or left it somewhere Clu was able to pick it up), or if Clu had it from the beginning and knew it was to call for help if something happened to Flynn in the grid...

Flynn would've made himself an emergency escape before he even invited Tron & Clu onto the new Grid. So whatever the 'key' was, Clu would've known about it since he was created after Flynn installed the failsafe. And since Flynn was never captured (Tron saved him from that), I can't fathom there being a 'dongle' for the pager.
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quara33 Wrote: netrate Wrote:1. I agree, Clu was surprised to see him. It begs the question of why Clu had to look at the disc to see what happened - and yes, then he seemed surprised. The only person that is convinced it was Clu was Flynn - I think it might be a red herring or something they are going to explore in the next one because it really could have been a great twist or arc. CLU wasn't expecting Sam, he was expecting Alan. He watches the disk until the point that he sees Alan talking about the page, and realizes what happened. CLU likely had patrols out looking for 60 year old guys who looked a bit like Tron, and put Rinzler in the game grid so that Rinzler wouldn't 'accidentally' see Alan. When Jarvis tells CLU about the patrols being stepped up, and the rectifier being ready on schedule, it really doesn't sound like they're waiting for Kevin Flynn at all--maybe with Alan's disk they could undo any of TRON's old security protocols that remained in place despite Rinzler's re-purposing. Maybe they could use the portal with Alan's disk. *shrug*. When Sam shows up alone (ie without Alan), CLU has to re-work his plan a little, and draw Flynn back to the grid (thus the speech and light-cycle battle).

I have to disagree. I don't think Alan was necessary for any plans. He didn't really need Sam there, all he needed was for the portal to open. I think they were ready to proceed with there plan because the portal was open and Flynn coming out of hiding was just a matter of time. Having Sam there was a bonus because it was even more likely Flynn would leave hiding for him. Thus the speech and Kevin saying "with you he got more than he could have hoped for..."order abortion pill morning after pill price where to buy abortion pillwhere to buy abortion pill abortion types buy abortion pill online

psyence53 Wrote: typicaltronname Wrote:I agree with Kat, I don't think they had the money to render Bruce's face. Not that they did too good a job with Jeff's face, either. only two things bugged me about the movie, the graphics for the younger-looking faces and C.L.U. having stubble, that's it. QUIET YOU! ¬_¬ Lol! I HAVE A QUESTION! What about Quorra - does she not need the information in her own disc?

Aha! I was wondering that very thing as I watched it but then forgot about it. I would think that she would, and it's history.

typicaltronname Wrote: Meanie pants! If they intend on doing that again, I hope they take their time to render a more realistic image. Those are the only two things that bugged me, though, but you have to think of the time they had, and the budget, they couldn't do the best job possible. Besides the director has talked about adding scenes to the Blu-Ray, so I hope we see them and maybe they can tweak the facial graphics a bit.

You insulted Clu, you had to be silenced ¬_¬ The lips were my main issue, but it wasn't bad considering everything else was so awesome. That's true, they managed for Avatar... But he still looks good enough for me to be attracted to him xD

Oh, I would love Blu-Ray, but I will have to settle for DVD and hope that gets equal content.

And I still want to know about Quorra's disc!!
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