I have to admit I'm a bit concerned about T:L's box office take so far. This weekend's sales were 55% below last, and it dropped to third behind...*shudder* Little Fockers, of all things, and True Grit, which I've heard was excellent. I went to see T:L earlier today in 3D and while it was a sizeable crowd, it most definitely was not a sold-out show. And, I guess the international numbers are not what was hoped for, either. The movie is going to have to make far more to break even, and with this much of a drop, I don't see it happening, and that kills me because the chance of us seeing any new TRON-related material depends on the movie's success.

Encourage your friends and family to take a chance and see T:L. See it again yourself, if you have the time and money. Show your support on and offline; that's my plan. I want to see this movie pull in enough for at least a sequel, and to keep Disney from considering discarding the animated series.

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Let TRON Legacy have the month of January before we predict doom.

$88 million domestic after 10 days is nothing to stick your nose up at.

And if Disney is having accounting heartburn over anything, it's TANGLED, which has been the real underperformer this holiday season. At least if we factor in its outrageous budget -- $260 million for a computer animated film?? Even with overseas and domestic combined, TANGLED is short $20 million after 38 days in the theaters.

TRON Legacy meanwhile is well on course to making back its $170 million pricetag, having already reached $111 million between domestic and overseas. That's 65.3% of the total budget in just ten days of release. I am quite sure Disney is not spooked by TL, as opposed to TANGLED.

Now, I realize some fans may be trying to soften the letdown if TL does not earn itself a sequel. I can grok that totally. But I don't think TL's numbers are bad at all, and I think January is going to be very good for TL at the box office -- both overseas and domestic.

Just look at NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM. I still think that's the best movie to compare TRON Legacy to, in terms of total performance.

A movie doesn't have to have a whopper opening weekend like AVATAR or SHREK to be a success and spawn a sequel. NATM had a veeeeeeeery long box office tail, due to live action mixed with visual spectacle, and being family friendly. Hmm, what movie from the holiday season in 2010 matches that description?

Good point Sub-Odeon

Tron Legacy has been doing well, not as good as some of us hoped, but well none the less. The big thing for me is that I just want to see a big screen sequel ha ha! I also want people to give it a chance since they will see it is a film worthy of their money.

Sub-Odeon Wrote:Do you have a quote on that? A hard number? $270 worldwide gross is not out of the question either. Assuming $270 million is the magic number, the movie has already earned back 42% after only ten days -- and all the figures I've seen have not update overseas totals in over a week. If overseas matches domestic by the end of January TL might be at $300 million, and then some.

$120m is the marketing number batted around on various sites, I think. Box Office Mojo and if I'm not mistaken, Hero Complex also had that number...

So a breakeven number is $290m, and the film is at $153m (I think I'd seen $65 as the intl number so far) after ten days, which is not all that great.

The negativity is starting to win out with most people who follow the numbers for a living, I'm afraid. Unless Disney comes out and says 'Tron 3 is a go', we've probably seen the last visit to the Grid.

I don't know, most websites who offer analysis are pretty down on the film's performance.

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I don't see the rampant negativity you're talking about from Box Office watching PROFESSIONALS. Now, you do not want to go on the forums of places like boxofficemojo and expect people to know what they are talking about. Mos Eisley has nothing on those sort of boards. They make inflated expectations for nearly everything with a good-size buget and then call them "failures" when they don't over perform to their expectations. On Box Office Mojo, it's really just best to read Brandon's news articles. Here's what he last had to say about Legacy:

In third place, Tron Legacy slipped 54 percent to an estimated $20.1 million, raising its score to $88.3 million in ten days and surpassing the final sum of The Day the Earth Stood Still (2008). Given the misfortune of the first Tron and the movie's niche appeal, Legacy has fared relatively well: to expect blockbuster numbers from this property would be absurd.

Nikki Finke at deadline.com (whom, frankly, isn't the best box office reporter out there but she is widely read) is pessimistic, to be sure, but she still has a wait and see attitude:

The jury is definitely out on its legs as rival studios don't think tepid reviews will help spread any positive word-of-mouth to the non-fanboy crowd. No doubt Tron: Legacy 3D will pass $100M domestic grosses before the end of this year. But with a budget estimated as $150M, and a global marketing push estimated at another $120M, this Christmas gift from Walt Disney Studios' previous Dick Cook administration but premoted by the present-day Rich Ross crew in charge will have to depend on international overperforming to break even. Abroad, Tron: Legacy is currently in release in 34 territories representing 65% of the international market and has done $65.5M, for a worldwide total now of $153.8M.

It's still a wait and see game. It'll really depend on whether Tron evens out over this week and into next weekend now that the new movies like Little Fockers and True Grit are out. There's not really much in the way of competition any time soon so Tron could still keep making money.

One thing I think should be pointed out though...

Disney needs Tron. In it's portfolio, it's just the sort of property it needs. It appeals to a segment of the market that Disney has only started to be able to tap into again when it purchased Marvel. And the Marvel audience isn't exactly the same audience that Tron gets. So even if it hasn't played as wide as Disney would have liked, it might be still worth it to them to keep pursuing the franchise and giving it time to build.

The fact that Tron: Uprising full animated series was given a greenlight is a good indicator. This happened after the opening weekend was softer than some thought it should be. Unlike a lot of box office watchers, Disney is looking at the big picture on this. If they get the animated series out there, it'll keep the property fresh for kids (and, let's face it, hardcore adult fans) and help build the audience for the sequel (along with the DVD/Blu-Ray sales.

Even with the worst projections (with it making about 150m domestically) there are still a lot of good reasons for Disney to keep Tron going.

Thanks guys. It's been awhile since something has come out that I'm really invested in its success, and I just want to soften the blow, as it were.

Heh, you know, I hadn't actually been on the BOM forums before last week (although I did play the Derby for about two years).

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jonwes Wrote:Well, I do think it's good for us not to just expect a sequel. It might not happen. I've resigned myself to be happy with what we've gotten if it doesn't. At the very lease we have Uprising to look forward to. But I do think there's still reason to be more optimistic than not right now.

You write some good stuff. We can't let negativity break this forum. The movie is doing well at the box office, but most importantly its a GREAT movie.

tidusx Wrote: jonwes Wrote:Well, I do think it's good for us not to just expect a sequel. It might not happen. I've resigned myself to be happy with what we've gotten if it doesn't. At the very lease we have Uprising to look forward to. But I do think there's still reason to be more optimistic than not right now. You write some good stuff. We can't let negativity break this forum. The movie is doing well at the box office, but most importantly its a GREAT movie.

Negative and realistic are two different things. We need to hit at least 300 million before we can start having any sort of sequel discussion. That is unless the TV show goes ahead and we see a hit.